Is there demand for a "FreeBSD Kommunity Edition"?

  • Yes, sure

    Votes: 12 16.2%
  • Likely

    Votes: 6 8.1%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 8 10.8%
  • Doubtfully

    Votes: 8 10.8%
  • No

    Votes: 32 43.2%
  • Don't know

    Votes: 8 10.8%

  • Total voters
    74

Geezer

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Wanting to try KDE is a bit like being married. I am sure the missus has been around for years, but when I call on her for a cup of tea, she has disappeared.
 

Zirias

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Any package can "disappear" any time. There's no way to ensure every single port always builds successfully, so when creating a repository, you need a strategy to handle that. FreeBSD's strategy is to just ignore the failed port and its dependencies (avoiding the risk that would come with mixing older builds of the same package into the newer repository).

So, when a package is missing, it will normally be back at most a few days later.
 

Trihexagonal

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Needs exist.
You are correct, Sir.

I was one of those people in need of a preinstalled desktop when I started. I stated with Linux and ran the disco circuit for a time, but I wasn't a disco boy.

I was a newly hatched nerdling who wanted to use FreeBSD. It being linked to UNIX and Ma Bell was impressive to me. And chicks dig guys who wear pocket protectors. But the installer intimidated me and looked beyond my skillset. Which it wouold have been once I hit the terminal.

In 2005 while browsing Live CD Operating Systems I spotted one based on FreeBSD that came with KDE installed by default. Yumpin Yimminy, that's just what I needed and once I got to the desktop I joined the forums and became a beta tester.

I'm not opposed to FreeBSD ready rolled desktop spinoffs at all. I just don't want it forced on me by it being introduced into the base system. Chicks dig my pocket protector.
 

Geezer

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It is back in the packages. I installed it, 433 packages.
It certainly is beautiful. And loads of things you can configure.
Really, it is a bit over the top and unnecessary. Think I'll do without it.
But I did get a cup of tea.
 

astyle

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That's Xorg, right? What are we gonna do when Wayland gets stabilized? Or when KDE finally migrates to QT 6?
 

Samuel Venable

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That's Xorg, right? What are we gonna do when Wayland gets stabilized? Or when KDE finally migrates to QT 6?
According to this, Qt6 still supports X11


I doubt that support will be dropped any time soon. Although it is hard to say when Wayland from what I understand just got a lot more stable recently on FreeBSD, so much so you can have a decent session that actually runs now.
 

astyle

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According to this, Qt6 still supports X11


I doubt that support will be dropped any time soon. Although it is hard to say when Wayland from what I understand just got a lot more stable recently on FreeBSD, so much so you can have a decent session that actually runs now.
Just tootin' my own horn here :p. My point is, with those major migrations happening, maintenance will quickly become a headache, even with all the possible automation assistance.
 

grahamperrin

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Thanks,

… dd img of FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE + KDE Plasma on a 64gb usb stick …

How might I try the image file with VirtualBox?

VBoxManage convertfromraw …, maybe? <https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html#vboxmanage-convertfromraw>

Code:
% cd /Volumes/t500
% du -h FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img.xz
7.4G    FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img.xz
% sha256 FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img.xz
SHA256 (FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img.xz) = 9933cbbaa57784d559d14ad6958b2fd4e1ec2d09080fcd74d0aba1eae89cbf2f
% du -h VirtualBox/BSD/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img
9.2G    VirtualBox/BSD/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img
% ls -hl VirtualBox/BSD/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img
-rw-r--r--  1 grahamperrin  grahamperrin    57G 22 May 02:02 VirtualBox/BSD/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img
% zfs get compression Transcend Transcend/VirtualBox
NAME                  PROPERTY     VALUE           SOURCE
Transcend             compression  zstd-15         local
Transcend/VirtualBox  compression  zstd-10         local
%
 

Samuel Venable

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Thanks,



How might I try the image file with VirtualBox?

VBoxManage convertfromraw …, maybe? <https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html#vboxmanage-convertfromraw>

Code:
% cd /Volumes/t500
% du -h FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img.xz
7.4G    FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img.xz
% sha256 FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img.xz
SHA256 (FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img.xz) = 9933cbbaa57784d559d14ad6958b2fd4e1ec2d09080fcd74d0aba1eae89cbf2f
% du -h VirtualBox/BSD/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img
9.2G    VirtualBox/BSD/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img
% ls -hl VirtualBox/BSD/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img
-rw-r--r--  1 grahamperrin  grahamperrin    57G 22 May 02:02 VirtualBox/BSD/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img
% zfs get compression Transcend Transcend/VirtualBox
NAME                  PROPERTY     VALUE           SOURCE
Transcend             compression  zstd-15         local
Transcend/VirtualBox  compression  zstd-10         local
%
As long as you extracted the xz file convertfromraw should work. Either that or convertdd. I'm not sure which one is more correct. To be warned, it has a few extra things installed like neofetch, java, zenity, and several other things I threw in there for my specific needs/preferences. But it's not a huge or noticeable difference. All the KDE settings are mostly default, though I forced hibernate/sleep to not happen automatically when idle. If you want to have sleep enabled you'll need to turn that back on.

The default driver I am using is scfb. So if that happens to not be the right driver fro your machine /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/scfb-driver.conf iirc is the file that should be removed and replaced with the appropriate driver. VirtualBox works with the default xorg driver so removing that file should be enough.

virtualbox-ose-guest-addtions also needs to be installed/configured for mouse stuff. If you want I can convert it with all that setup so you won't need to do so.
 

grahamperrin

Aspiring Daemon

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… convertfromraw should work …

It did (below).

I have some additional comments, however this topic will soon reach eight pages, much of which was off-topic from KDE so (given the milestone) here's a spin-off:


Thanks again.



For reference only, a record of conversion from .img to .vhd (plus file system compression levels, and so on):

Code:
% pwd
/Volumes/t500/VirtualBox/BSD/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma
% ls -hl
total 9469
-rw-r--r--  1 grahamperrin  grahamperrin    57G 22 May 02:02 FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img
-rw-------  1 grahamperrin  grahamperrin   2.1K 22 May 03:26 FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.vbox
-rw-------  1 grahamperrin  grahamperrin   2.3K 22 May 03:26 FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.vbox-prev
% zfs get compression Transcend Transcend/VirtualBox
NAME                  PROPERTY     VALUE           SOURCE
Transcend             compression  zstd-15         local
Transcend/VirtualBox  compression  zstd-19         local
% time VBoxManage convertfromraw ./FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.vdi
Converting from raw image file="./FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img" to file="FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.vdi"...
Creating dynamic image with size 61530439680 bytes (58680MB)...
11.070u 47.558s 57:02.79 1.7%   1055+177k 205481+222316io 4pf+0w
% ls -hl FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.v
FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.vbox       FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.vbox-prev  FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.vdi      
% ls -hl FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.vdi
-rw-------  1 grahamperrin  grahamperrin    22G 22 May 04:24 FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.vdi
% du -h FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.vdi
9.1G    FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.vdi
% sudo zfs set compression=zstd-10 Transcend/VirtualBox
grahamperrin's password:
% rm FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img
% cd
% du -h /Volumes/t500/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img.xz
7.4G    /Volumes/t500/FreeBSD-13.0-RELEASE-amd64-KDE-Plasma.img.xz
%
 
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