firefox is not unix, it is something horrible

ziomario said:
---> The browser then is the vital component in the middle: the engine driving the sales pump.

some days ago I've invited you to play with your imagination,trying to imagine which piece of software do you think can be used instead of a browser,now and in the future,but no one replied to my invitation.
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Well, probably a garden where you grow your own food. You won't have much time to surf the web then.

But that doesn't answer my question. I'm trying to understand how this business does actually work now. There is more money involved than ever before, while on the other hand, rulers here promised in 2020 to provide society with ten million additional longterm-unemployed in order to reduce labour expenses - and I'm one of them.
 
eternal_noob said:
A neuronal link. USB socket in your head.
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Germany already manufactures components for cochlear implants, so this may be not that far off... ?

But I'm seeing more and more posts looking for money-making ideas in here and on Discord... ?‍? mostly by ppl who have no idea how money-earning even works.
 
covacat said:
for simpler games like '90s prince of persia you can use js + phaser (phaser.io)
runs well as long as you have decent opengl acceleration in the browser
what i did runs well on mac / windows / xbox one (via edge) / decent smart phones
it sucked on all my linux boxes (all arm) ( i don't have a freebsd workstation)
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Maybe I can start from this : https://github.com/oklemenz/PrinceJS. First of all I need to understand how the code works. And when I have understood it,my desire is to make the multiplayer version. Maybe a version with a lot of princes who are trying to do the same thing and only one will be able to do it : to save the princess. With the individual prince who can come back to the castle again and again,for example for 10 lifes,before to die totally. So,as long as you play all the game levels,you had to fight and kill a lot of princes during your walk who try to do the same as you. I presume that's very complicated to change the code in the way I want.
 
PMc said:
Ahh, Firefox. While implementing IPv6 in various regards, I was looking at the traffic. This firefox talks to dozens of sites, all the time, even when fully idle - sites I do not know and have no rDNS.
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This sounds bad. Is there similar traffic in Chrome/Edge?
 
6502 said:
This sounds bad. Is there similar traffic in Chrome/Edge?
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This is the addons checking for updates and other stuff, safebrowsing, sync (yes, it checks even if you're not logged in), health report, pocket and many other contraptions checking for updates. Chrome/Edge are like 10x worse since they also monitor sites you browse to "improve the user experience".
 
Menelkir said:
This is the addons checking for updates and other stuff, safebrowsing, sync (yes, it checks even if you're not logged in), health report, pocket and many other contraptions checking for updates. Chrome/Edge are like 10x worse since they also monitor sites you browse to "improve the user experience".
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Any recommendations for browsers that don't do shit without my permission??? ?
 
yeah, I want to be able to go to Amazon and ESPN and Discord. I can't do jack if they want to analyze my clicks on their sites to death, but my own browser has to behave, y'know. ?
 
astyle said:
yeah, I want to be able to go to Amazon and ESPN and Discord. I can't do jack if they want to analyze my clicks on their sites to death, but my own browser has to behave, y'know. ?
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Librewolf is one of the best options right now, there's a PR waiting.
Ungoogled-chromium doesn't have any effort to port on FreeBSD right now, and probably will never have since www/chromium itself already have a massive amount of patches to make it work on FreeBSD.
www/iridium also looks good from this site perspective. Just make sure you check the addons used from time to time (since you don't have an update check, your addons will also get outdated without any kind of notification, this is also valid to Librewolf).
Badwolf maybe is doable, but there's no port effort yet.
www/qutebrowser doesn't have issues.
Seamonkey works well, was dropped from ports because of python2 deprecation (funny enough that some ports still uses python2 and they aren't dropped). The only issue with Seamoney is the google safebrowsing, which you can disable it.

If you really want to keep using www/firefox, there's some guides and mitigations out there, such as arkenfox. Here's a guide.
 
Phishfry said:
Oh no you didn't!!!
I have been muffled on this topic because I couldn't quite figure out the internal logistics.
It's easy to criticize. Portsmgr job is not something easy.
Hats off for best effort && jmos help.
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Isn't even a critic, all packages depending on py2 was dropped (which is understandable) and some aren't because...? Ok, let's say mail/mailman and www/moinmoin are important (and they are). Now let's talk about games/renpy? Don't make me explain what is done with renpy. ?
 
Menelkir said:
and some aren't because...?
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The difference is a build requirement or a run requirement. Some ports seem to use some build system that's based on Python 2. But it only requires Python 2 during the build, it's not a run requirement for those ports.
 
astyle said:
Any recommendations for browsers that don't do shit without my permission??? ?
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As you want something with a GUI: www/dillo2. This is probably as barebones as it gets for a GUI browser, it has no Javascript and lacks a lot of features which could leak your private data. Let's just say it's target audience is very old school web usage, or just displaying man pages and such.

Dillo_Web_Browser_3.0_showing_en.wikipedia.org.png


If just looking for a feature reduced browser, which uses a modern rendering engine then maybe Midori might fit that bill. www/midori
It nowadays uses Chromium as rendering engine.

About_Midori_Web_Browser_v7_running_on_Ubuntu_18.jpg
 
BTW there's also a new player on the horizon. There's a new OS called Serenity OS, which looks like a strange cross between Windows 98 from GUI aesthetics with some *NIX kernel underneath.

This OS has a 2 clause BSD license. It's been in development for roughly 3 years by now.

Serenity_OS%2C_March_2022.png


Anyway, the project lead of that OS created a new HTML rendering engine from scratch, called LibWeb (also BSD licensed). And a browser based on it called Ladybird (see above), which also has been ported to Linux using Qt.

This is WIP and probably still missing a lot, but an interesting development. I mean it rarely happens that somebody bothers to write a new HTML rendering engine from scratch, but here we've got that case.
 
6502 said:
This sounds bad. Is there similar traffic in Chrome/Edge?
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No idea. Why should I care about these - I only wanted to patch firefox to use IPv6 (ULA), and the continuous babble made it hard to find the relevant traffic.
 
PMc said:
No idea. Why should I care about these - I only wanted to patch firefox to use IPv6 (ULA), and the continuous babble made it hard to find the relevant traffic.
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umm... ff doesn't care if it uses IPv4 or IPv6 - it can use either, transparently.
 
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