Opera 12.00 beta changelogRelease date: 2012-06-14
Opera 12.00 is a recommended upgrade offering new and improved features, plus security and stability enhancements.
Opera 12.00 changelog
Opera 12.00 beta changelogRelease date: 2012-06-14
Opera 12.00 is a recommended upgrade offering new and improved features, plus security and stability enhancements.
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purgatori said:It's a great browser, but even with my tweaks and modifications the interface just isn't as powerful when it comes to keyboard interaction as, say, Conkeror
graudeejs said:Wow, that's an interesting statement.
I don't know any other bowser where you can configure key bindings as much as with opera.
What exactly you can't configure?
P.S.
Have you seen this?
http://my.opera.com/Blazeix/blog/vimperator-for-opera
jrm said:My experience has been similar to @purgatori. Opera has a nice engine, and it's hands down faster than Firefox and uses way less resources, but I (we) are just not the target user. I tried to make it work, but it was like trying to fit the square into the circular hole.
www/uzbl is quite usable now, although it takes a bit of work messing with the configuration files and the javascript/python/shell scripts. It's at least as snappy as Opera on my ten-year-old laptop and it's on the right track for what I'm looking for: a completely keyboard driven browser with customizable bindings and no bloat. The downside is that it's just not quite polished and the pace of development doesn't seem as fast as in the past.
For now I usually settle with Firefox/pentadactyl, but spending time in uzbl reminds me how bloated and slow it feels.
I'm looking forward to the day when Xwidgets is ready in Emacs, then browsers like ezbl will exist. With one Emacs frame you can have buffers with terminal sessions, browsers, irc, image viewers, etc. all with a consistent interface and tight integration.
wblock@ said:They did, it's called emacs.
Then they shouldn't complain about Opera or Firefox (or <your favourite desktop app>) doing this and doing that or not doing this and not doing that.wblock@ said:They did, it's called emacs.
SR_Ind said:Then they shouldn't complain about Opera or Firefox (or <your favourite desktop app>) doing this and doing that or not doing this and not doing that.
A desktop environment should be self contained one.
Some gents above claimed that Emacs is a desktop environment by itself.ChalkBored said:That means the only desktop environments are KDE and Gnome. And nobody would be using Opera or Firefox anyway since they've already got a web browser.
SR_Ind said:Some gents above claimed that Emacs is a desktop environment by itself.
For example, as opposed to Emacs lovers here, XFCE user's don't complain about Gnome, leave aside KDE.
Another thing is Emacs lovers brag about it being an IDE as well, so I take it they are accomplished to average programmers. Are they up to the task to put things together for themselves?
I have a desktop environment of sorts hacked together with Qt apps, it is self contained with dependence limited to QtCore, QtGui and QMake. This required lots of programming hours, but the result is very satisfying. Why complain about something you don't pay for? I'll release my desktop apps very soon...working on ports. This is how open source works.
And yeah, keeping with this thread...I've rolled back to Opera 11.64, but a very satisfied Opera user.