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I couldn’t get FreeBSD installer to detect my wifi bluetooth adapter on my desktop. So I have to run BSD in a VirtualBox VM for the time being
 

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tetsuo said:
Yup, that would be her.
the anime is strangely beautiful to me, but maybe i'm just an edo period weeaboo
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If you like the Shouwa period I would recommend you a visual novel called "Kara no Shoujo (The girl in the shell)".
It is more or less of the same genre as Jigoku Shoujo, and I like the art style.
Well, it is of course 18+...
I think I should give some new visual novels a try, since I want to read in Japanese again.
All the goodies out there :)
 
SDK Chan said:
If you like the Shouwa period I would recommend you a visual novel called "Kara no Shoujo (The girl in the shell)".
It is more or less of the same genre as Jigoku Shoujo, and I like the art style.
Well, it is of course 18+...
I think I should give some new visual novels a try, since I want to read in Japanese again.
All the goodies out there :)
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My thing are anime girls wearing kimonos, You've seen Kuon, Project Zero etc? That kind of thing, though thanks for the recommendation, i'll surely check it :)

I've finished Lisa the Painful yesterday so now I have to finish the 2 other games.
 
tetsuo said:
My thing are anime girls wearing kimonos, You've seen Kuon, Project Zero etc? That kind of thing, though thanks for the recommendation, i'll surely check it :)

I've finished Lisa the Painful yesterday so now I have to finish the 2 other games.
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If you like anime girls wearing kimonos, you will like Kara no Shoujo.
I have checked Lisa the Painful, and it looks kind of grotesque for me.
Kara no Shoujo is also not for the faint of heart, and sometimes very scary, but I would say the story is very good.
It is also a trilogy, too.
The second part of Kara no Shoujo had me left in trance as the story was very emotional.

Kuon Utawareru mono ?
I have once played in on the playstation vita, but not for so long.
Project Zero (Fatal Frame), yes.
I played Fatal Frame 2, and 4 Remake, and they were quite good, but not so scary.
Something really scary resembling project zero will come out this year and is called Silent Hill F (playing in Japan in the year 1960).
This game is already banned in Australia due to being to intense (hallucination due to drugs, and ... something similar what you see in the Anime "Higurashi no naku koro ni"), but I will surely play it. :D
The author of the story (ryukishi7) is also known for the story of Higurashi no naku koro ni my all time favorite anime.
 
SDK Chan said:
If you like anime girls wearing kimonos, you will like Kara no Shoujo.
I have checked Lisa the Painful, and it looks kind of grotesque for me.
Kara no Shoujo is also not for the faint of heart, and sometimes very scary, but I would say the story is very good.
It is also a trilogy, too.
The second part of Kara no Shoujo had me left in trance as the story was very emotional.

Kuon Utawareru mono ?
I have once played in on the playstation vita, but not for so long.
Project Zero (Fatal Frame), yes.
I played Fatal Frame 2, and 4 Remake, and they were quite good, but not so scary.
Something really scary resembling project zero will come out this year and is called Silent Hill F (playing in Japan in the year 1960).
This game is already banned in Australia due to being to intense (hallucination due to drugs, and ... something similar what you see in the Anime "Higurashi no naku koro ni"), but I will surely play it. :D
The author of the story (ryukishi7) is also known for the story of Higurashi no naku koro ni my all time favorite anime.
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Lisa the painful is indeed a painful game, and yeah it is grotesque but because the game is intended to be painful (hence the name). But I guess being an ero guro fan has made me some kind of immune to the grotesqueness. It's good art
Nah, Kuon for PS2, from From Software, the guys that made Dark Souls
I will have to research more about higurashi and stuff, but the problem is that the most idiotic people I know in life are Umineko fans. So i have a bias
 
tetsuo said:
Lisa the painful is indeed a painful game, and yeah it is grotesque but because the game is intended to be painful (hence the name). But I guess being an ero guro fan has made me some kind of immune to the grotesqueness. It's good art
Nah, Kuon for PS2, from From Software, the guys that made Dark Souls
I will have to research more about higurashi and stuff, but the problem is that the most idiotic people I know in life are Umineko fans. So i have a bias
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Ahh, KUON, yes...
It reminds me of JU-ON (the grudge).
Higurashi the anime is complete and way more grotesque than the games.
I think if you watch some episodes of Higurashi you will know what I mean with the ... for the Silent Hill f game.
Saya no Uta is also very grotesque and well regarded developed by Nitro+ :D😂🤣
 
SDK Chan said:
Ahh, KUON, yes...
It reminds me of JU-ON (the grudge).
Higurashi the anime is complete and way more grotesque than the games.
I think if you watch some episodes of Higurashi you will know what I mean with the ... for the Silent Hill f game.
Saya no Uta is also very grotesque and well regarded developed by Nitro+ :D😂🤣
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Ahh, saya no uta, i should really read that one, they've recommended it to me for years. Saya no uta was made by the same guy that made madoka magica so no way it is not good. I should look onto it

Does it run well on wine under freebsd? x)
 
Generally VNs have crappy proprietary video codecs and/or audio codecs, but I guess Saya no Uta should run under Wine-Proton on FreeBSD, because it runs on linux due to having an uncensored steam version.
Since wine-proton has "protons" patches from Valve included, it should run.
I wanted to try wine-proton out today for Ender Magnolia, and Ender Lilies Quietus of the Knights (Two very great, but disturbing metroidvanias).
I guess I will try out saya no uta, too since I need to re-read the uncensored version. :D
 
What is the big deal with Wayland? Is it now good supported in FreeBSD? Is there any actual reason to change from X11 to Wayland?

And I do not mean its "security features", I've been using X11 since I have memory and I've never had any issue. At all

Maybe with drivers but that's pretty much it. Last time I tried wayland it wouldn't even start and thought "this is gonna bee too much effort for to little reward"
 
In my case (the screenshot above your post), I not only use Wayland but I even disabled the XWayland emulation, so I run only applications that support Wayland natively. So I have neither XWayland nor X processes running at all. Everything is perfectly smooth, absolutely stable with no video tearing or strange artifact whatsoever.

In short, Wayland support in FreeBSD 14.2 is definitely at production level in my experience (please look at my fastfetch output for my laptop details).
 
tetsuo said:
What is the big deal with Wayland? Is it now good supported in FreeBSD? Is there any actual reason to change from X11 to Wayland?

And I do not mean its "security features", I've been using X11 since I have memory and I've never had any issue. At all

Maybe with drivers but that's pretty much it. Last time I tried wayland it wouldn't even start and thought "this is gonna bee too much effort for to little reward"
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Primary advantage of using Wayland is better multi-monitor support and mixing refresh rates, and a theoretically more CPU efficient desktop compositor compared to a window manager on top of xorg (I say theoretically because it makes sense to believe in this but I never saw proof yet). Even then, Wayland has unique multi-monitor support issues that still have to be fixed.

If you don't have a problem with x11 and you don't mix different refresh rates with multiple monitors I don't recommend switching to Wayland at all, it will likely bring a lot of headaches and incompatibilities because it's simply not even close to feature parity with x11 and probably will never be.

Is Wayland even real software? All I see is a bunch of specifications and protocols, actual software is written by the developers who make Wayland compositors.
 
tetsuo said:
I've mixed different refresh rates in the past (75, 165 and 60hz) and had 0 issue with X11. Not sure what wayland improves.

But yeah, i think Wayland was born dead.
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If you use multiple monitors on different refresh rates, the lowest refresh rate will be assumed for vsync. It will affect games but also your desktop environment/window manager and it's mostly noticeable if the refresh rates are not multiples of the lowest one (for example 75hz and 60hz, 60fps will produce frameskip on the 75hz screen)
 
Wayland isn't an option for me until someone can explain why a 1000Hz mouse degrades to an inconsistent floaty cursor based on timing priority. GNOME's still guessing, and I've seen this be an issue since early Fedora releases in the 20s.

I feel it can't be as simple as it having to be like this because "Wayland", but 8+ years of this being prioritized as a Linux mainstream default with barely anyone else talking about it (especially Steam/Proton/gaming people) is silly. Is everyone honestly just dealing with this? 1000Hz mice aren't rare; Walmart had em on a shelf for $20 years ago. I'm certain I've seen it even with 500Hz, and my current mouse goes up to 8K. Anyone using 125Hz office mice on 20" 60Hz likely won't notice it (even though I'm sure the same latency is there), but anyone talking VRR and HDR has to be running into this.

This is kind-of an important topic to me and it threw enough doubt of Linux for me to seek something else late last year (I'm not into running my stuff slower because of someone else's apparent maintenance burden); FreeBSD having X11 is great! And Windows still does VRR/HDR/everything Wayland is aiming for while also having a consistent mouse even at 8K. What's the goal of Wayland's push exactly if it can't even drive a mouse right?
 
rmomota said:
rmomota said:
could it be related to the wayland wm you're using?
how are you measuring mouse?
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Mostly GNOME on Wayland with Mutter, but I noticed it briefly on Plasma 6 Wayland around when it came out with Fedora 40.

I measure it real-world just using it :p But while gaming or if I have stuff compiling in the background (high CPU/GPU load), I notice when my cursor randomly doesn't follow my mouse movement and gets behind or moves slower. Prior to GNOME 42 it was easy to do with GpuTest/Fur Ring, but even something minor like logging in, going to GNOME Activities, launching Firefox, and then immediately moving my mouse afterwards has it hitch for a sec while the I/O of FF loading happens (not a thing GNOME 47 Xorg nor Windows).

This person claims Wayland Vsync's the cursor instead of having it on it's own overlay, which sounds like an odd decision.
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