FreeBSD Foundation Flounders on 15 with Rust, pkgbase, and KDE

scottro said:
The only thing I can't do in FreeBSD firefox is watch netflix and I guess prime, but both of those can be done with linux-brave or linux-chrome. I imagine if someone had the itch, they could add a linux-firefox that would also do it.
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I might stand corrected on what I wrote above. Crackle TV may have needed Flash to run (service is no longer available to personally confirm, but a search says it needed Flash). So, I may have had some interest in using Flash. I've done without it. However, it looks like Crackle is no longer available. Using Flash for Crackle, is something I've neglected to look into, due to my past frustrations with Flash.

It was nothing against the user, it was my past frustration with Flash and Adobe's attitude towards FreeBSD.

There's also needing to play Netflix and such. I'm in favor of learning about NetBSD's current ability to still run Flash, and see if streaming services that need it, run well with it, even on an Arm64 SBC.

For this, I'm for investigating why NetBSD's implementation of Flash works so well.
 
astyle said:
I think that USerID wanted pointers to blogs and YouTube videos where people actually complain how a recent version of Firefox is so wonderful on Windows because it runs Flash and .webm animations - and that they cannot get the same thing on FreeBSD. But if you do just a little bit of research and problem solving (like people do on these Forums), most of those differences are actually easy to solve, and the experience is actually quite comparable.

No need to get as deep down as you describe. Very easy to take most of those blogs and YouTube videos and completely rip them apart with just a bit of problem solving. The "then where can I read in detail about.. ?" was really meant to be read as sarcasm.
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multimedia/mpv is so good for watch multimedia files and has extension for Firefox.
 
Y'know... Flash was just an example that I used off the top of my head, my point was more about taking a random complaint, giving it a bit of attention, and realizing that it's a simple technical problem that can be solved in 5 minutes if you just pay attention to the details. Political problems - yeah, they require noise. Technical problems - come on, just solve it with a level head, say thank you to whoever helped, and move on.

But yeah, we all got off on a tangent here, and my comments certainly played a role in that. 😅

Even Firefox itself - that was just an example off the top of my head that I used as a tangent off the original topic of this thread.

BTW - I don't watch Netflix, because I don't want to pay for an account with 'em. YouTube with livestreaming of volcano eruptions (and a380 takeoffs around the globe) works perfectly well in Firefox on FreeBSD for me. :P
 
astyle said:
I don't watch Netflix, because I don't want to pay for an account with 'em. YouTube with livestreaming of volcano eruptions (and a380 takeoffs around the globe) works perfectly well in Firefox on FreeBSD for me. :P
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Have you tried Tubi TV or Pluto TV? They're free. Also the PBS television station for online is free. Most Americans already know about that one, but it's nice to list it. There used to be Crackle, owned by Sony, but it needed Flash, and I never got it to work with FreeBSD. Crackle isn't around anymore.
 
I was reading the FreeBSD wiki page on the new installer, and I found out that it will ask you if you want to install videogames and vlc. FreeBSD kicked games out of base for a good reason. What is this, Linux‽ I like DooM but I can't imagine the installer installing it onto my server!
 
RetroComputingCollector said:
I was reading the FreeBSD wiki page on the new installer, and I found out that it will ask you if you want to install videogames and vlc. FreeBSD kicked games out of base for a good reason. What is this, Linux‽ I like DooM but I can't imagine the installer installing it onto my server!
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The new installer (dated August 7) provides an Ncurses-based screen for typing in the new root password. Used to be just the bare console where you type it and press the enter key. Observed in 15-CURRENT.
 
astyle said:
The new installer (dated August 7) provides an Ncurses-based screen for typing in the new root password. Used to be just the bare console where you type it and press the enter key. Observed in 15-CURRENT.
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This was just chatter on the wiki. They were throwing these ideas around, and these types of ideas that are being thrown around suggest that these people are a certain type of person that shouldn't have a say in FreeBSD's future. Or that is just my two cents.
 
RetroComputingCollector said:
This was just chatter on the wiki. They were throwing these ideas around, and these types of ideas that are being thrown around suggest that these people are a certain type of person that shouldn't have a say in FreeBSD's future. Or that is just my two cents.
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You want a say in FreeBSD's very future, huh? Huuuuuh? 👿 Then bring something other than opinionated comments that betray utter incompetence, you steaming piece of penguin - digested krill.
 
astyle said:
You want a say in FreeBSD's very future, huh? Huuuuuh? 👿 Then bring something other than opinionated comments that betray utter incompetence, you steaming piece of penguin - digested krill.
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And you stop being such an asshole. I am a person who loves to rant, and the internet is a perfect place for that. Some people agree with me, some people don't. Some people are civil, some people aren't.
 
RetroComputingCollector said:
FreeBSD kicked games out of base for a good reason.
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Those were text based games, and were small in size.
RetroComputingCollector said:
I like DooM but I can't imagine the installer installing it onto my server!
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Games, in this case text games, kind of didn't belong there anyway. NetBSD has its own text-based game suite in ports too.
RetroComputingCollector said:
I was reading the FreeBSD wiki page on the new installer, and I found out that it will ask you if you want to install videogames and vlc.
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That's not good. They need to make their own distribution, if they want all of that. While it might be ok for a BSD based operating system, FreeBSD is the system, where you build what you want on top of it. Plus, I don't trust them to keep putting software that requires gmake to build and adding all kinds of Linux based ecosystem dependencies.

They need a windowmanager type distribution. However, GhostBSD and MidnightBSD, while they're great for that, they offer graphical desktops of GPL. They don't have something available with a basic install like NetBSD and OpenBSD do, with minimal windowmanager and login manager.

astyle said:
The new installer (dated August 7) provides an Ncurses-based screen for typing in the new root password.
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I don't mind curses in the installer.

There needs to be a limit on Linux influence. They need to do it the traditional BSD way. Innovation, yes, but BSD style. Arch Linux originated programs come close though, but eventually, some need to be forked.
RetroComputingCollector said:
What is this, Linux‽
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astyle said:
You want a say in FreeBSD's very future, huh? Huuuuuh?
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astyle said:
penguin - digested krill
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The penguin reference was a hint about Linux.
 
RetroComputingCollector said:
I was reading the FreeBSD wiki page on the new installer, and I found out that it will ask you if you want to install videogames and vlc. FreeBSD kicked games out of base for a good reason. What is this, Linux‽ I like DooM but I can't imagine the installer installing it onto my server!
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FreeBSD gaming edition sounds legit. Sony thinks it's a legit idea too.
 
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