Why did you stopped using FreeBSD ?

Alain De Vos said:
I think the problem is not so the editor but the availability of a good working language server for the specific language & os.
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I just saw this thread pop-up in the latest-posts box and now I'm curious. Are you still NOT using FreeBSD? It would be an outstanding fact because you are probably one of the most active users in this forum (or in the off-topic section, at least).
 
The only thing that would make me stop using FreeBSD in the future is the fact that 15 does not work on my laptop and no one seems to be able to understand why (and therefore fix it of course).
 
fmc000 said:
The only thing that would make me stop using FreeBSD in the future is the fact that 15 does not work on my laptop and no one seems to be able to understand why (and therefore fix it of course).
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Its annoying but sometimes it is worth skipping a release. Luckily FreeBSD supports the previous release for a good amount of time.

I had a breaking issue with 13-RELEASE on one of my non-Lenovo work laptops (I think it was related to the hwpstate_intel wedge). I just skipped the release, kept with 12-RELEASE and... well the laptop broke anyway so problem solved. So it is possible that by the time 16-RELEASE is out, you will have replaced your machine and the problem will have long been forgotten.

(Not very satisfying I know... ;))
 
I couldn't figure out Wine on 16.0-CURRENT (before 15.0-R's release) and went to openSUSE Tumbleweed. Took a while to redo my NAS's HDD just to find out I get network-limited on my server; switched it back to FreeBSD, now at 16.0-CURRENT, and everything's set-up slightly better and faster than before!

Only hold-up for my laptop back to FreeBSD is redoing my NAS (easy but tedious :p)
 
Alain De Vos said:
Not the idea of starting a flame-war.
I program mostly in F# and Scala.
But no good editor like vscode(plugin) or idea or rider available.
Currently using artix-linux , redcore-linux , mx-linux.
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Sure you've got some great editors available on freebsd, including two of the world's finest. 😁

Scala development with vim and emacs:-

Scala and Vim Part 1

A look at the current state of Vim and Scala
www.chris-kipp.io www.chris-kipp.io

F# on vim and emacs:

F# the Vim way

When developing F#, there is a nice selection of quality development environments to choose from. One option that is often overlooked is Vim. IDEs have some really nice functionality, but often I ju
www.codesuji.com www.codesuji.com

Or you could give eclipse a try:-

Getting Started Tutorial (Scala with Eclipse): First Chapter — Akka Documentation

doc.akka.io doc.akka.io

Are none of those any good?

I had a look for kdevelop, but they don't seem to explicitly support either language. Same with nedit.

F#? Are you writing software to run on windows?
 
I started using FreeBSD for fun. I like the simplicity of it and the fact there is still another Unix like OS around. So I don't think I will stop using it. I use opnsense as a firewall. People used to say FreeBSD has strength in secure networking, so far, I haven't been hacked. But nor did my old Linux firewall, simple (strict) rules, better security :) And separate gaming network for my 2 sons, just go ahead, knock yourselves out.
 
kpedersen said:
Its annoying but sometimes it is worth skipping a release. Luckily FreeBSD supports the previous release for a good amount of time.

I had a breaking issue with 13-RELEASE on one of my non-Lenovo work laptops (I think it was related to the hwpstate_intel wedge). I just skipped the release, kept with 12-RELEASE and... well the laptop broke anyway so problem solved. So it is possible that by the time 16-RELEASE is out, you will have replaced your machine and the problem will have long been forgotten.

(Not very satisfying I know... ;))
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...especially when you try 16 and you end up with a non-bootable system because "kernel module exists but it's wrong version" or something like that. Lately FreeBSD is driving me nuts.
 
fmc000 said:
...especially when you try 16 and you end up with a non-bootable system because "kernel module exists but it's wrong version" or something like that. Lately FreeBSD is driving me nuts.
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I like pkg to make running CURRENT easy to potentially avoid that :p (ran into it around 14.3 or right before the kmods-latest repo was available)
 
Every evening around 11 p.m. I stop using FreeBSD-RELEASE, the PC shutdown around 2 a.m.
To start again with FreeBSD the next day
On the other hand, I stopped Windows forever in 1995. 😂
 
blackbird9 said:
Sure you've got some great editors available on freebsd, including two of the world's finest. 😁

Scala development with vim and emacs:-

Scala and Vim Part 1

A look at the current state of Vim and Scala
www.chris-kipp.io www.chris-kipp.io

F# on vim and emacs:

F# the Vim way

When developing F#, there is a nice selection of quality development environments to choose from. One option that is often overlooked is Vim. IDEs have some really nice functionality, but often I ju
www.codesuji.com www.codesuji.com

Or you could give eclipse a try:-

Getting Started Tutorial (Scala with Eclipse): First Chapter — Akka Documentation

doc.akka.io doc.akka.io

Are none of those any good?

I had a look for kdevelop, but they don't seem to explicitly support either language. Same with nedit.

F#? Are you writing software to run on windows?
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On Scala,
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/post-screenshots-of-applications.101191/#post-737411
On F#
https://github.com/ionide/Ionide-vim/issues/104
 
fmc000 said:
...especially when you try 16 and you end up with a non-bootable system because "kernel module exists but it's wrong version" or something like that. Lately FreeBSD is driving me nuts.
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Yeah, it's really easy to shoot yourself on the foot with freebsd.

In my opinion there are only two setups of pkg that work:

Code: 
FreeBSD-ports: {
  url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/latest",
  mirror_type: "srv",
  signature_type: "fingerprints",
  fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg",
  enabled: yes
}
FreeBSD-ports-kmods: {
  url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/kmods_latest",
  mirror_type: "srv",
  signature_type: "fingerprints",
  fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg",
  enabled: yes
}
FreeBSD-base: {
  url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/base_latest",
  mirror_type: "srv",
  signature_type: "fingerprints",
  fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg",
  enabled: no
}

For latest on a given freebsd version, and:

Code: 
FreeBSD-ports: {
  url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/latest",
  mirror_type: "srv",
  signature_type: "fingerprints",
  fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg",
  enabled: yes
}
FreeBSD-ports-kmods: {
  url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/kmods_latest_${VERSION_MINOR}",
  mirror_type: "srv",
  signature_type: "fingerprints",
  fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg",
  enabled: yes
}
FreeBSD-base: {
  url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/base_release_${VERSION_MINOR}",
  mirror_type: "srv",
  signature_type: "fingerprints",
  fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkgbase-${VERSION_MAJOR}",
  enabled: no
}

For the release version (i.e. what should be more stable).

And if switching from one to the other it should be mandatory to do:

pkg upgrade -r FreeBDS-base -f
pkg upgrade -r FreeBDS-ports-kmods -f
 
fahrenheit said:
Yeah, it's really easy to shoot yourself on the foot with freebsd.

In my opinion there are only two setups of pkg that work:

Code: 
FreeBSD-ports: {
  url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/latest",
  mirror_type: "srv",
  signature_type: "fingerprints",
  fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg",
  enabled: yes
}
FreeBSD-ports-kmods: {
  url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/kmods_latest",
  mirror_type: "srv",
  signature_type: "fingerprints",
  fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg",
  enabled: yes
}
FreeBSD-base: {
  url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/base_latest",
  mirror_type: "srv",
  signature_type: "fingerprints",
  fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg",
  enabled: no
}

For latest on a given freebsd version, and:

Code: 
FreeBSD-ports: {
  url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/latest",
  mirror_type: "srv",
  signature_type: "fingerprints",
  fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg",
  enabled: yes
}
FreeBSD-ports-kmods: {
  url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/kmods_latest_${VERSION_MINOR}",
  mirror_type: "srv",
  signature_type: "fingerprints",
  fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg",
  enabled: yes
}
FreeBSD-base: {
  url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/base_release_${VERSION_MINOR}",
  mirror_type: "srv",
  signature_type: "fingerprints",
  fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkgbase-${VERSION_MAJOR}",
  enabled: no
}

For the release version (i.e. what should be more stable).

And if switching from one to the other it should be mandatory to do:

pkg upgrade -r FreeBDS-base -f
pkg upgrade -r FreeBDS-ports-kmods -f
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Identical to mine.
 
In the windows world, vendor products such as TurboTax and Quickbooks refuse to launch on anything older than win11.

Firefox current versions refuse to launch on older windows and many websites refuse to connect with any down level browsers.

I am suspicious this is a bribe being paid by Microsoft to force sales of win11.

Win12 is due this fall and has even more stringent hardware requirements, forcing the purchase of yet another new computer.
 
I stop using FreeBSD when I'm on the clock for $JOB, which pushed an uninspired Dell at me. I'm an architect there, so that mostly means that I'm in meetings getting paid per verbalized opinion.. preciously little hard tech involved at all anymore.
 
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