Which book do you plan to read.

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I was lucky enough to get this a couple years back. A hard copy. (The ebook messes up all the mathematical symbols so is useless). I've admittedly only read one chapter but simply having it around the place gives me a warm feeling in my heart!
 
ProphetOfDoom First or second volume? I only have the second one, and I want to get the old ones when I can.
I also have the unfinished last volume of Knuth here, but that is not an easy read.
 
Crivens I wasn't aware there was a second volume - do you mean edition? It doesn't appear to say anywhere but it does say "reprinted with corrections March 1988" so I'm almost certain it's the first edition. I may as well upload a couple more photos. There's one that looks identical on www.amazon.co.uk that's from '86... and I mean literally one copy, lol.
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I know this as a two volume set. Volume one covers parsing and syntax, volume two covers code generation and optimizations.
 
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Crivens I wasn't aware there was a second volume - do you mean edition?
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I think Crivens is referring to the "pre-dragon" books about compiling:
  1. The Theory of Parsing, Translation, and Compiling - Volume I: Parsing
  2. The Theory of Parsing, Translation, and Compiling - Volume II: Compiling
A pdf of the combined books has been made available by the ACM digital library: The theory of parsing, translation, and compiling - January 1972

Their successors are the three dragon books also known as: the green dragon book, the red dragon book and the purple dragon book; see Principles of Compiler Design.

BTW, those are quite big reads and heavy study material. At my university we used another book and an accompanying laboratory environment where we designed our own (mini) programming language and implemented a scanner, parser and code generator by means of attribute grammars. For the advanced compiler course we used the red dragon book.

If you are to embark on a voyage of compiler learning on your own, I'd suggest starting with a simpler and less detailed book that would enable you to write your own compiler for a simple language with a simulated machine code interpreter. It is quite an experience to write a compiler, even if not for a full fledged programming language. A lot of computer science aspects and skills are needed when creating one. Happy learning for the new year!
 
reddy
Just don't call religion funny. This shit is responsible for too much harm on this planet.

I just tried to make a joke because otherwise i get angry if i read about such #_&7(-€@':' people.

Having a custom package to remove Beastie from FreeBSD because "he's the Devil" is the most ridiculous thing i've read here.

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This is not funny in any way and i am afraid of the minds that make this shit up. These people can't be trusted.
 
I keep meaning to read the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson. Has anyone read it? I have the first book, Red Mars, on my Google Play Books, but I was too busy being mentally ill to read it.
 
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This one should be the next one.
Since other than Michael W.Lucas I don't know any other author writing about BSD OSes or FBSD specifically, I stick with him, so far I am not disappointed even if sometimes I wish deeper explanations, most of the time it's fine.
I also plan to read books he wrote about OBSD, but that's for latter, for now I am focus on FBSD and there are lot of things to understand for my brain ?
 
Ok, the Logo. Long time ago, wife and I were out and about, I was wearing one of the Classic T-shirts and got a stink-eye from a member of a religion (he was wearing a collar). Casual conversation while waiting for food (wife was at a table), I start getting the "devil, blah blah blah". I simply said, "You are familiar with classic Greek literature?" Yes, I am "Ahh then you know the difference between a daemon and a devil, yes?" Bug eyed look as a response. "It's a computer operating system where a bunch of processes work together to help the user get something useful done." More bug eyed response. "besides, he's smiling, he's soft and fluffy and huggable, isn't he?" Silence for a couple of seconds, then a big grin and a laugh, acknowledging I had a point.
I closed with "Just don't feed them after midnight" (from the movie Gremlins).
 
fernandel said:
From high school once a year I am reading Jaroslav Hasek - The Good Solder Svejk. It is the best anti war book for me and waiting for January. Now I am toward the end of Zola Paris and half of the Dostoyevsky Idiot and Kafka's The trial is done.
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My goodness, I used to piss my ass off reading Svejk back in school (at history lessons). My granddad also liked this stuff, for he himself had served as an officer in Austrian army during WWI.
 
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eternal_noob said:
reddy
Just don't call religion funny. This shit is responsible for too much harm on this planet.

I just tried to make a joke because otherwise i get angry if i read about such #_&7(-€@':' people.

Having a custom package to remove Beastie from FreeBSD because "he's the Devil" is the most ridiculous thing i've read here.

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This is not funny in any way and i am afraid of the minds that make this shit up. These people can't be trusted.
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I think it's not so much about religion, in the meaning ppl use this word. It's rather about orthodoxy and intolerance with everything that's different.

When I read some evolutionist stuff, I can't help but see more religion than science in their reasoning. It's not science to blame here -- it's ppl who use it. Weapon (or any tool for that matter) is only as good as the hand wielding it. So it is with science. So it is with religion.
 
mer said:
Ok, the Logo. Long time ago, wife and I were out and about, I was wearing one of the Classic T-shirts and got a stink-eye from a member of a religion (he was wearing a collar). Casual conversation while waiting for food (wife was at a table), I start getting the "devil, blah blah blah". I simply said, "You are familiar with classic Greek literature?" Yes, I am "Ahh then you know the difference between a daemon and a devil, yes?" Bug eyed look as a response. "It's a computer operating system where a bunch of processes work together to help the user get something useful done." More bug eyed response. "besides, he's smiling, he's soft and fluffy and huggable, isn't he?" Silence for a couple of seconds, then a big grin and a laugh, acknowledging I had a point.
I closed with "Just don't feed them after midnight" (from the movie Gremlins).
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Yes, after all a logo is just a picture, it doesn't change the product's quality which is way more important.
 
Phishfry said:
How long have people been calling for Beasties cancellation?
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An anonymous reader submits "The FreeBSD core team has announced a public competition to design a new logo to replace the current BSD daemon logo. The new logo will be used on the FreeBSD website, software media labels, printed media, hardware equipment, and more. The winner of the contest will...
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I love him and I don't understand I people loose time with this. If one really get bordered by this, one should use another OS or go to terapy to understand why a mascot can have so much power over his/hers feelings. Just saying.
 
eternal_noob said:
reddy
Just don't call religion funny. This shit is responsible for too much harm on this planet.

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BTW, I hope you realize that this Beastie actually WAS NOT invented by FreeBSD team?
Whether you like it or not, this IS actually a modified image of what many ppl believe "demons" look like )))
Small half-beast creatures with horns, tails, hooves, tridents... Others don't actually believe, but they KNOW this is how "devils" are supposed to look like.

Now think about it. If you dislike and distrust religion as much as you say, would you really want to use a logo that would turn many ppls imagination back to some religious imagery? How relevant is it to your product?

Not if you want to promote your product for wider usage. I guess, FreeBSD's mission has nothing to do with religion, does it? Well in that case it would make much sense to make its logo religion-neutral as well... It is much easier to do than change ppl's thinking that has been formed by decades, even centuries.
 
I just tend to ignore religion unless folks throw it at my face. But then it's the problem of those, not mine.

I don't care if FreeBSD had a cross or Jesus' penis as a logo. It's just a fricking sequence of bytes.

People who are offended by a bunch of 0s and 1s in a particular order should be thinking about seeing a doctor.
 
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I was lucky enough to get this a couple years back. A hard copy. (The ebook messes up all the mathematical symbols so is useless). I've admittedly only read one chapter but simply having it around the place gives me a warm feeling in my heart!
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I have the second edition (in Russian). Excellent book. It helped me a lot while writing a special C preprocessor for the needs of our programmers.
 

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BobSlacker said:
I love him and I don't understand I people loose time with this. If one really get bordered by this, one should use another OS or go to terapy to understand why a mascot can have so much power over his/hers feelings. Just saying.
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That seems to be a big part of the problem. Once upon a time you had to worry about screaming your head off while being eaten alive by a pack of apex predators. Today, life is so safe and boring you need to worry about screaming your head off at people misgendering you - or someone else. Or hurt some feelings. Or practice wrongthink. What's next? Maybe we should all read things like "1984", "The Gulag Archipelago", or "Nothing New In The West". Heck, it was mandantory reading when I went to school (not the gulag, but you will understand once you read it. That is not for kids.).
 
When I went to school, "1984" and "The Gulag Archipelago" were banned, and for reading "The Gulag Archipelago" they could be expelled from school...:sssh:
 
The Gulag is available as audio book on YT. I thought it may be easier to stomach that way, but no. That was part of my "do something inconvenient every so often" routine. And it was too much.
 
I don't think it is appropriate to bash religion on this forum. Not everyone has the same views as each other. You may hate Christianity, that doesn't mean your views apply to everyone else. I for one am a Christian and I remember making my avatar a picture of the Bible and I was forced to change it. I don't think religion (or opposition to it for that matter) has a place on these forums.
 
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