What is you preferred internet-browser?

Fun fact: Marc Andreessen wrote Mosaic which became Netscape which became Firefox. Microsoft licensed Mosaic for the early versions of Internet Explorer. So Andreessen essentially wrote both browsers.

Another fun story. In 1992, I worked at Silicon Graphics and would sometimes be eating lunch when founder James Clark would come down and eat among us. I overheard a conversation he was having about talking with a guy about a graphical interface for the web. I had no clue then what they were talking about but I now know "the guy" was Marc Andreessen and the graphical interface was Firefox (Mozilla).
 
GlitchyDot said:
No, ill wait till we have it in FreeBSD ports.
P.s. why did you deleted ? hows browser in general ?
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I did try on the phone. It is fast, many settings. It will support Firefox and Chrome extensions but not yet on iPhone. I open FreeBSD web page than complain about that it doesn't have reader and I had enough and delete. Maybe I will try again one day. Firefox Focus and Safari work for what I am using, I am not so much on the phone.
 
Back in the day of dial-up my preferred browser was opera. Then later, it was seamonkey til that got removed from ports. Then, falkon. Now, firefox, but... only because falkon segfaults since the February kf6 kf5 qt6 qt5 megabump(s). [ sometimes it stays up only a few seconds with "about:falkon" or some page showing ] I did a
ldd on falkon and turned up TONS of libraries. Then, EACH of those in turn depends on tons of others. Any way to know if one of the libraries reinstalled can be a fix or if the port Makefile could be improved or if the port itself is at fault? At this point with all the hours i have spent so far I am up to paying a bounty*. Started on v13 STABLE and persists on v14 STABLE... falkon is SMOOTHER with many tabs than firefox... and plays sound on youtube which here firefox does not, either on v 13 or on v 14...
* like if someone reading this thread has a fiverr account... and runs FreeBSD stable 14...
 
drhowarddrfine You are the only person (that i have noticed, besides myself) to publicly mention these facts. I was actually banned from a forum for mentioning these facts, then responding to an idiot that insulted me for mentioning it. LOL

preference summary: Links and Firefox for me. Maybe the future is curl or httrack for offline viewing/filtering LOL.

I have used Netscape on Windows98/xp, then i switched to Firefox (Andreesen to AOL to leaving AOL with $80million). I guess that i've always been a subconscious Mozilla user. Interesting. I do admit that the IE rendering engine is better than Mozilla but IE was just a pile of browsing crap.

I remember the browser wars during the early 2000s when i was learning html/css. What a nightmare. Mozilla, however, really made no sense with certain actions. For example, pixels are the measurement in the size attribute of inputs. If you screen capture an Internet Explorer and a Netscape input during the browser wars, Mozilla size was as much as 3 pixels off. size 25 was 28 in Mozilla. I was mad about that because it is a failure of simple arithmetic in order to complicate web development in favor of one of the browsers. Absurd!

In my opinion, Apple Safari is the nicest browser in existence followed by Chromium (which is where Microsoft ended up with Edge). However, Firefox is the smartest choice on Windows. I mean, really, Google espionage or Microsoft espionage is your only choice with Chrome (yes, i know about ungoogled chromium, see my attachments).

Honestly, i used Lynx text browser Windows port quite often during the early 2000s and now i have Links in FreeBSD. I use Links quite often now but i also have Firefox. It's a damn shame that Apple doesn't have a FreeBSD Safari version.

I attach some screen captures of my Browser software hoard through the years. I also have the NextSTEP and OS2 Warp floppies in addition to isos (or floppies [DOS/311]) of every version of Windows up to 11 23h2.

Anyone else remember when browsers offered a custom css option? all of that has disappeared in mainstream browsers. Firefox still maintains the ability to customize css but the method is hidden from the average user (chrome folder with userContent.css file). Another positive for Mozilla in my opinion. I can block those overused and annoying modals like the Admiral advertising/consent/tracking garbage.

I would like to see a new browser that brings an idea of mine to life: screen projection. id est, accept all garbage from a site, THEN filter that garbage to remove ads, unwanted scripts etc., THEN project the final site to an actual browser screen. Which will stop detection of adblocking software and restore control to the user.

ps: I am not a fan of Apple but damn they have some smart coders. Safari is quite impressive.
 

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johnjohn said:
I am not a fan of Apple but damn they have some smart coders.
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The issues with Apple are not they wouldn't do good engineering. In the contrary many of Apple's soft- and hardware are pure solid reference, best of the top. Some pieces were exemplary genuine top of the art engineering trend setters.
The issues with Apple are their economical attitude and politics: arrogance, hubris, greed, exploitation.
 
Maturin said:
The issues with Apple are their economical attitude and politics: arrogance, hubris, greed, exploitation.
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Somehow their greed provided me 6+ years of iPhone 6S+ support way longer than any other Android phone :p

I can turn my SE 1st-gen on now and use it comfortably. I can't do the same with OnePlus 6 and OxygenOS today (older Android + Google security lockouts), but luckily have aftermarket LineageOS.
 
johnjohn said:
drhowarddrfine You are the only person (that i have noticed, besides myself) to publicly mention these facts. I was actually banned from a forum for mentioning these facts, then responding to an idiot that insulted me for mentioning it. LOL
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ralphbsz does that, too, I enjoy reading his posts. I did tease him a bit about that, and called him 'Professor'. :P

I was never a fan of lynx, my take is that command-line and text-based user interfaces have their uses, but also limitations. Ncurses can only take you so far, even if you have the very latest security standards and encryption backing your browsing activities.
 
Maturin said:
for free?
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I think so; they came from GUI Settings -> General -> Software Update :p

The date range for 6S+ and SE1 iirc was longer than any other Android device's OEM support at that time by years. It was relatively recently Samsung and/or Google announced promising anywhere near that kind of support above 2-year.
 
If the support ends for samsung or apple devices, can't you just install a custom OS ?
I know that for apple devices a jailbreak would be unavoidable, but samsung tends to be pretty open.
 
FWIW, Microsoft Edge. I no longer use FreeBSD on desktop so Firefox outlived its usefulness as cross-platform browser for me.
 
I've been using mostly Firefox still. I really like the way that Firefox renders CSS. Firefox also seems to interpret CSS in a stricter manor which helps me to make sure that I'm doing what I'm supposed to do when I create styles. For WebKit browsers I use Midori or Luakit. I also have Chrome for web apps. It will be nice when Firefox has support for PWA.
 
Argentum said:
IMHO, this statement has little value here, because we are talking about FreeBSD in these Forums.
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I double-checked that this subforum is called "offtopic", and I doubt all the apple/android/whatever talk above has any more value.
 
cyric said:
I double-checked that this subforum is called "offtopic", and I doubt all the apple/android/whatever talk above has any more value.
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That is why I wrote "IMHO". Writing about M$ products does not probably break any rules here, but we are mostly interested in, which are the best browsers for FreeBSD.
 
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