What is you preferred internet-browser?

I'm Firefox on desktop, but the only ingenious browser for smartphones is Sleipnir.
Sleipnir is literally the cleverest UX design app with mobile users in mind. You can open/close/go_back/go_forward pages just by flicking your thumb on the screen.
Sleipnir literally makes my browsing be literally done with just one thumb, literally.
Sleipnir has a full wide screen option that I use at all times because you get ALL of the screen real estate.
Sleipnir has an in-built dark mode that's so lightning fast and so well designed.
You can organize open tabs with an in-built tab manager that's very easy and clever.
Your UI is completely customizeable, and you can have floating buttons/menus.
It's literally the only way I can use the web on the cell phone. It's like I merge with internet and do not spend time navigating at all. I become internet. So cool.

No thanks, I like the internet not being too-comfortable to use :p

Firefox is the only browser to let me copy from code boxes plain-text (Chrome adds new-line/Enter and causes commands to run immediately when pasted into Terminals).

Code:
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Browser choose is really a case of "best of a bad lot". You either get one of the major browsers and configure it for privacy where possible, opt for one of the rebadged and preconfigured browsers forks, take a gamble and trust their, often insincere (marketing), claims that their project "respects your privacy", or use one of the niche projects where you're more likely to encounter incompatibility, etc. Not a great situation.

I have to, mostly, concur with the observations from the link above; Mozilla has been in a dire state for many years, but the various firefox or chromium based offerings which claim a privacy focus all seem to be "snake oil" - marketing themselves on "privacy", but not really delivering. Despite this, they seem to gain "fan followings", who defend and buy into it all - parroting the claims of the project.
 
Browser choose is really a case of "best of a bad lot". You either get one of the major browsers and configure it for privacy where possible, opt for one of the rebadged and preconfigured browsers forks, take a gamble and trust their, often insincere (marketing), claims that their project "respects your privacy", or use one of the niche projects where you're more likely to encounter incompatibility, etc. Not a great situation.

I have to, mostly, concur with the observations from the link above; Mozilla has been in a dire state for many years, but the various firefox or chromium based offerings which claim a privacy focus all seem to be "snake oil" - marketing themselves on "privacy", but not really delivering. Despite this, they seem to gain "fan followings", who defend and buy into it all - parroting the claims of the project.
I do not know whether you would agree with my standpoint, but, judging from this VPN companies article, and my experience I made with librewolf, testing it yesterday thoroughly through many tracking, leaking, and fingerprinting sites, I must say, I am very happy with the result.
Note, I am using a double VPN all the time so, even if librewolf does an outside connection, it never gets my real IP.
 
I think people spend way too much time worrying about privacy when they are actually wanting security. Privacy in browsers means one doesn't want anything to know what they are looking at. But there is no little man sitting in a back room somewhere watching you're every click so they can report you to...who knows who.

I've been surfing the web since before Firefox 0.8 using IE4 and the only thing that little man--if there is one--has done to me is targeted ads which has done him little good since I almost never click on them. The cops have never beaten down my door for visiting any web sites--and there have been a couple where I should not have gone even if it was out of curiosity.

No one has ever proved to me that it's caused me any harm in any way that justifies some effort to dissuade it.

Security, as I said, is a different issue.
 
I think people spend way too much time worrying about privacy when they are actually wanting security.
You do realize that privacy and security are connected, and both are things not to be looked down upon ? (source)
If you want one, there is probably a need for the other one, too.

Quoted from that source:
Privacy, at its core, refers to the right of individuals to control their personal information and decide how it is collected, used, and shared. It encompasses the notion of confidentiality and the expectation that certain personal data will remain secure and only be accessible to authorized parties. In the context of cybersecurity, privacy emphasizes the safeguarding of personal data against unauthorized access, breaches, and misuse.
Security, especially in the field of cybersecurity, refers to the practices, measures, and technologies put in place to protect systems, networks, and data from threats, vulnerabilities, and attacks. Security measures encompass a wide range of controls, including firewalls, encryption, intrusion detection systems, access controls, and more. The primary goal of cybersecurity is to ensure the integrity, confidentiality, and availability of data, which can be threatened by cybercriminals, hackers, and other entities.
At first glance, privacy and security seem to march hand-in-hand toward a common goal: the protection of sensitive data. Both concepts aim to safeguard information, albeit from slightly different perspectives. Privacy emphasizes an individual’s right to control their personal data, while security focuses on protecting that data from malevolent entities.


One can argue that effective security is a precursor to achieving robust privacy. When systems and networks are secure, personal data is less likely to be compromised, thus preserving the privacy of individuals. Conversely, without privacy mechanisms in place, security protocols can violate personal freedoms and rights, leading to a chilling effect among users who may feel surveilled or exposed.

I've been surfing the web since before Firefox 0.8 using IE4 and the only thing that little man--if there is one--has done to me is targeted ads which has done him little good since I almost never click on them. The cops have never beaten down my door for visiting any web sites--and there have been a couple where I should not have gone even if it was out of curiosity.
Real use case example, not following privacy practices on the internet:
Ryujinx emulator group was wide open privacy wise, but still somehow secure through security services.
The result is lawyers knocking at the door of the lead developer...
I wonder how Edward Snowden would see the privacy fact.
There are also countries where "privacy" is a huge benefit (China,India,Russia) for example.

Privacy in browsers means one doesn't want anything to know what they are looking at. But there is no little man sitting in a back room somewhere watching you're every click so they can report you to...who knows who.
Yes, but privacy also means you do not want to get pinpointed for future harassments, and minimize risks, that is why you usually create a pseudonym.
Privacy is not just about clicks, and visitings.
Big companies, ISPs are a good example for the little man sitting somewhere, which can make your life worse...
And yes, there are enough haters on the internet, which try to knock you down for action X or Y.
With a pseudonym you at least let believe someone that you are that person, leading them on the false track.
Many VPN companies do not see anything wrong with privacy.
The TOR project neither.

For a better explanation of things, I would recommend this VPN blog.
 
So is there hope for real ad-blocking now that Google kicked out manifest v2 extensions?
I don't think so.
Google is not interested in you making decision about what you want or not.
A really dumb decision to throw out U-Block origin from them, but it is googles choice.
 
That is my point.
If you can fake the metadata about your OS, OS-Version, Browser-Version, faking screen size, etc. you can minimize your fingerprint.
This is something else which can be used besides the IP to identify you.
99% of everyone is not going to bother with any of that. It's extreme overkill when one thinks screen size and browser version gives away anything significant about you.
 
99% of everyone is not going to bother with any of that. It's extreme overkill when one thinks screen size and browser version gives away anything significant about you.
I also included etc...
If all of these things are combined, a fingerprint can doom you as well as your real IP address can.
Better to stay on the safe side as to pay millions because of well, one little man decided to crush your life.
I learned the lesson hard, and do not want to get crushed.

Some countries even require the ISP to give away the IP of each person.
I do not want to let everyone know, what I am doing, but I have no right to such a privacy without doing something for this myself, funny right...
 
It is really interesting that the discussion of "privacy" in that document (and much of the discourse) is about the browser sending back telemetry to its home (Chrome to Google, Firefox to Mozilla). But anyone using the web (meaning a browser) leaves many more footprints. Their ISP can see all their traffic; upstream networking providers (the tier 1 networks) can see large fractions of it, although with SSL they can only do traffic analysis. The endpoint they communicate with can obviously see everything. And if they consume any content that contains ads, the ad provider can see which ads were run where. Finally, the agencies can see whatever they want to see.

TBH, I worry much less about Apple, Google, Microsoft and Mozilla than about Lumen, Liberty Global or AT&T.
 
I've been hopping a lot between Firefox, Librewolf and Brave these last months and decided to ultimately use Firefox with a custom hardened user.js to have 90% of Librewolf's benefit with 5% of its breakage. By not using a hobbyist fork I also lower the loose ends for something to go wrong.
 
It is really interesting that the discussion of "privacy" in that document (and much of the discourse) is about the browser sending back telemetry to its home (Chrome to Google, Firefox to Mozilla). But anyone using the web (meaning a browser) leaves many more footprints. Their ISP can see all their traffic; upstream networking providers (the tier 1 networks) can see large fractions of it, although with SSL they can only do traffic analysis. The endpoint they communicate with can obviously see everything. And if they consume any content that contains ads, the ad provider can see which ads were run where. Finally, the agencies can see whatever they want to see.

TBH, I worry much less about Apple, Google, Microsoft and Mozilla than about Lumen, Liberty Global or AT&T.
There are no privacy on no one browser.
https://www.ghacks.net/2025/02/27/mozillas-new-terms-of-use-causes-confusion-among-firefox-users/
 
When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.
Is that not only realistically if you reveal your real IP ?
I mean it is the same as with companies building a picture of you, while you browse the internet, customizing their ads to your interests.

The new policy merely allows Firefox to function as it always did, to help users visit web pages, allow the browser permission to store your personal information such as form data, or to access a file that you wanted to upload to a website.
Firefox Privacy Settings reveals a lot of good information about setting firefox to be less user invading.
 
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