SirDice said:
Simple question, does he own the rights?
Yes he owns rights to publish, but he is not developer or anything.. There are hundreds of these servers and he only singles me out. So you can go ahead and say you won't help me because the files are leaked. Just let all the other servers do it.
Crivens said:
Well, downloading the source from SF results in a 87 bytes tarball. That's what I call efficient coding
Real SF are larger than this.
http://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/me...in2-shutdown-illegal-private-servers-h-n.html
Hany is a well known scammer in the pserver community, and has several banned accounts on elitepvpers. Take a look at his threads and you will find his other profiles, and even more threads on the forum. He is lying and did not shut down any servers and has no power to do so. He has a personal vendetta, with the guy I am working for because this guy did not support Hany's corrupt behaviour....much like this publisher has against me.
Also Hany is lying about "paying 3000 eur" to YMIR. YMIR does not just sell licenses like this and not to some random 14 year old kids from elitepvpers. Official licensed servers are declared on the YMIR website.
The community of pservrs in Metin2 is sort of like torrents and internet freedom situations. People originally broke away to be able to make servers that did not involve corruption of the GMs like in the official servers, as well as servers that are designed to scam the players out of thousands of dollars / euros. There has been legitimate proof showing that many things advertised in officials are in fact false. Such as special mall items to make something that gives more success while upgrading. The item really gives no scucess. Many server owners lately have become greedy just like official server owners, and are doing it solely for money. A few people out there, including myself make servers as a learning experience to work with the coding languages and other parts of the server files as well as php and design. We do it for a community of mostly friends and new players welcome to join too. A place to hang out and play the game we enjoy but without the problems of the official server's greed, corruption, and drama. This all may still not be enough for you to care but all I can do is try to express my opinion on the topic. You may say well regardless it's still illegal server. It's one of those things just like torrent trackers.. A never ending conversation that has gone on for years and is still taking place to this day.
DutchDaemon said:
Our position on private servers
Over the past few weeks, our company TEC Interactive has started to take actions against the owners of certain Metin2 private servers. As we know many of you have played private servers, have friends playing them, or even are or were part of their staff.
Private servers, whatever the justification is, are illegal. The logos, imagery, content, translations and game code of Metin2 are the intellectual property of Ymir Entertainment which require a license for their use, commercial or not. Intellectual property rights are recognized by the laws of virtually every country in the world, with penalties ranging from fines to jailtime depending on the country and severity of the infringement.
As far as this goes, the guy who typed this was actually not truthful about his actions and intentions. He singled my server out and when I mentioned that he insulted users of a metin2 forum which is not elitepvpers, then had the owner of forum remove his insults to the players who did not agree with his actions. As a "professional" publisher he was not very professional. Once I had mentioned his obvious singling out of my small server rather than going after huge successful servers which have been out very long (not to mention a couple who pay YMIR to stay open illegally and who sold the design of the "new mounts" to YMIR).
The images are not illegal, if I take an image of a game client which is openly being downloaded anywhere this does not make it an illegal image. For example, if I download WoW (choosing it because it's popular).. and take screenshots and use the images for a guild website banner or something this is not a copyrighted material... and nobody ever makes claims on this because they realize that fact.
He claimed to shut down other servers but all he did was send the owner an email (something he didn't bother trying with me.. he just went straight to the host with his demands). He also had my website down for a little why claiming that it was copyrighted material, and the host knew no better and had shut it down. Fact is all the material on website was by us, and the script was a free public script on elitepvpers by a releaser named Hennik. Those other servers did not close, one just turned site off and left server on, the rest renamed or stayed the same and stayed online.
So you can decide based on this or based solely on IP rights, it's up to you. If you decide you don't want to help me I understand that and that's perfectly fine with me. I just came here because I know that the people here actually have a clue unlike the racist members of elitepvpers who are most often children who think they are doing things right but really aren't.
and my ip's there)