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Normal UPSes only last so many minutes. You are better off putting servers in multiple regions but getting that right is not trivial.
you're more likely to find diesel-powered backup power generators at soccer/football stadiums than at datacenters
There's generators that use natural gas, and they automatically turn on when the grid goes out. A UPS can be used between that and switching between the gas generator and the electric grid. Though, generators that use natural gas are less efficient and more costly than electricity from the grid. At least these are meant to be used only during outages. However, for a reliable power supply, it would be great.

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There's other brands too, like Trane, Briggs & Stratton, Kholer...
 
I do understand. In this era of the big change from petrol/diesel powered vehicles to electric vehicles, the data centre has been forward thinking and employed electric powered electricity generators.
 
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The generator is the mysterious force that manifests the physical laws responsible for our reality.
Code:
Like a rock,
Like a planet,
Like a fucking atom bomb,
I'll remain unperturbed by the joy and the madness

That I encounter everywhere I turn
I've seen it all before
In book and magazines
Like a twitch before dying
Like a pornographic sea
There's a flower behind the window

There's an ugly laughing man
Like a hummingbird in silence
Like the blood on the door
It's the generator
Oh yeah, oh yeah, like the blood on my door

Wash me clean and I will run
Until I reach the shore
I've known it all along
Like the bone under my skin
Like actors in a photograph
Like paper in the wind

There's a hammer by the window
There's a knife on the floor
Like turbines in darkness
Like the blood on my door
It's the generator
 
I do understand. In this era of the big change from petrol/diesel powered vehicles to electric vehicles, the data centre has been forward thinking and employed electric powered electricity generators.
You mean, the data centers have been using batteries? you can't generate more electrical energy than you've got :p According to laws of physics, energy can be transferred, but not 'generated'. And an 'electric powered electricity generator' is called a UPS :p
 
You mean, the data centers have been using batteries? you can't generate more electrical energy than you've got :p According to laws of physics, energy can be transferred, but not 'generated'. And an 'electric powered electricity generator' is called a UPS :p

Yes dear astyle , I am aware of the second law of thermodynamics. The automobile industry, governments of most countries and countless green do gooders are not.
 
If it doesn't auto power on after power loss, why not?

Maybe it didn't have clean underwear.

What other related forums did you join while waiting?

None, thanks, however the FreeBSD section of Awesome BSD was updated:


– most remarkable, previously, was the absence of dvl@ FreshPorts.

Unitedbsd

Near the foot of the page; <https://github.com/DiscoverBSD/awesome-bsd#forums-and-communities>
 
Then send some fricking technicians to manually power that box on.

OK, I confess. The technicians were destined for the data centre when I presented my blunderbuss, hijacked their pony and trap and demanded immediate attention to my home setup. Look, look at the mess they made of my desktop, after I asked for a tiling window manager! To top it all, they didn't fix my modem, which is what I hijacked them for in the first place. You can't get the staff these days.
 
Then send some fricking technicians to manually power that box on.
I don't believe the "power loss for 3 days and no one was able to power on the server"-story.
You don't believe that it's a possibility for an organization run by volunteers during an winter storm to have a 3-day delay to fix a non-critical piece of infrastructure? Oooooooooookaaaayyyyy.
 
Logically:
  1. for its package building cluster in the US, the Ports Management Team has been waiting ten years for XServe G5 PowerPC hardware
  2. we can reasonably assume that hardware for the package building cluster is superior to hardware for FreeBSD Forums
  3. the blueberry iMac got wet and took three days to dry out
  4. a failover routine should have triggered service from a Bondi blue iMac, but it failed to boot because the cleaning lady had left her Chaka Khan disc in the CD tray – things stalled at the firmware stage through unreadability of a bad sector.
Strange, but true.
 
USA became a 3rd world country a long time ago, haven't you heard? I know this because I live here.

FreeBSD provides me with my favorite operating system, for free. They maintain it and upgrade it for me, also for free.

I very much enjoy having access to this free forum too, but it's hardly my highest priority. I don't much expect it to be a very high priority for them either. I'm just grateful to have it, whenever and if ever it's available and convenient for them to maintain and administer it for me. They could host it all for free on http://smfforums.com/ for all I care and I'd still be happy. Seriously.

The operating system itself still worked fine during all the time that the forum was down. The OS does not depend on this forum. I tip my helmet to the decision-makers and providers of free services at FreeBSD, and just pray they don't boot my unworthy azz.
 
Ok, i get it.

- The USA is a 3rd world country
- Snowstorms are able to shutdown an entire datacenter for 3 days
- The foundation doesn't employ technicians because the are all volunteers
- There is no need to post a notice on the main page if the forums go down for 3 days

I admit i like my Lennart story more. 🥳
 
Why can't you connect more than one message/possibility together? The machine probably did not power back on automatically, not that the datacenter was out of power for three days. The person responsible to do it could have been stuck behind some icy roads and frankly didn't have to come in because the forums were non-critical infrastructure.
 
In fact i don't care what the cause of the outage was. Maybe a snow storm, maybe Lennart or grahamperrin hijacking their pony. It doesn't matter.

I just think that
Hiding vulnerabilities doesn't help with credibility and trust.
It causes concern that there isn't a statement from the foundation yet.
And even the admins agree:
but I do agree with eternal_noob, openness is important.
 
3 days of power loss? Absolutely possible. We had one up here in NH where I was personally out for 10 days. Some places had it restored quicker. Power lines running above ground, ice and wet snow, tall trees, trees fall, fuses pop, wire physically break. Now imagine that across the entire state. Fixing it means they have to start somewhere, and prioritize who gets what first. Hospitals are usually top priority, they fix an area, which lets them move to the next, eventually it all gets fixed. But someone has to be first, someone has to be last.

And before you say "bury the lines", NH is called the Granite State for a reason.
Have you never seen the state of Puerto Rico power grid after the hurricane a few years ago?

Yes everyone agrees that a "why it went down" is a good thing to know, but if you really think it's impossible for a section of the US to lose power for 3 days, you are flat out wrong.
 
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