I'm stuck on this rock for some time.

meaw229a said:
Try to get Bluetooth working on FreeBSD.
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Looks like I made some notes here.

And a photo here

It was actually september last year. Since then I've been playing a lot more with dacs and headphones and the bt stuff has got left aside. I seem to remember it worked pretty well, I remember those speakers supported true stereo over bluetooth with freebsd on the X220, which was nice. I probably didn't get the...
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- partially successful, at least; good luck!
 
angry_vincent said:
when you think more about how human evolved you then realize that there is 0 places for us to be. human body in it's way to where we are as species - it is so tied to the earth's conditions. i much dislike all these non-sensical dream-like future scenarios of being a cosmic civilization -- as if we are not such already. aren't earth a celestial body in cosmos anyway? all these, mars, moon, whatever suitable earth-like place to explore is usual "noodles" you fed up by intellectual charlatans. from science perspective only, it is though, very valuable to study, undoubtful
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it always was BS, sadly; fun to watch as a kid though.
 
angry_vincent said:
when you think more about how human evolved you then realize that there is 0 places for us to be.
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Correction: 1 place - Earth. (Must have been a programmer's mistake. Started counting at 0 😁)
angry_vincent said:
to explore is usual "noodles" you fed up by intellectual charlatans.
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I wouldn't call them 'intellectual'. And I wouldn't call no science fiction author nor movie producer a charlatan. Guys like Elon Musk, who are telling people this was actually a neat idea to go for, and spending money on such to collect even more money, instead investing their money into real solutions but following their own insane nightmares, are charlatans.

Like dystopia movies, which basic core idea of the plot is we're all just in a bad dream and only need to wake up, they are following quite the same idea of human's belief, to blame others and simply run away would get us rid of our problems. That's immature teenager's thinking. Such is nice for entertainment. To flee reality and dream for an hour or two while eating popcorn. But an adult should be mature enough to make a difference between entertainment, dreaming and reality.
Settling on other planets is just the science fiction version of fleeing from problems. Of course, it seems so easy and comfy at the first glance: Just run away and leave all the junk behind, instead of taking the effort and actually solve anything. Novels and movies want to entertain. So they spare their audience any realistic points of view, like to thought it all out completely what they tell. Of course not. Otherwise it turns out, it's all unrealistic BS - the dream ends. That's a way how comedy works: Take an easy way out solution and consequently think it out to the end until it reveals itself the bogus it is.
Mostly spared is the fact that to realize such a dream was way more effort than to solve the actual problem. Again: Then you wouldn't have an entertaining story.

But above all, what all believers in such science fiction junk don't see:
You cannot run away from problems. Particulary not the ones being in yourself.
You always will take them with you, where ever you go. Even if you someday may reach the promised paradise, your problems will be all there again, too. Only solving problems solve them. Not running away. And once you've solved them, there is no need to run away anymore. So you need to solve your problems anyways, while going elsewhere doesn't help on it, so you can stay where you are in the first place, e.g. here: Planet 0.
 
Alain De Vos said:
Only 3 places to go
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In reality, none.

We have a neighbor we really don't like (the reasons are complicated, and not to be discussed without my attorney present). I usually suggest that I want them to move to ... another town, in a different county (because the court system is local to our county). Another state in the US. Another country outside the US. Those suggestions are serious, and we're working on implementing them. The joke version is that I want to introduce them to my good friend Elon. His trademark charm with women and his charisma will convince our bad neighbors to move to Mars, which is roughly the correct distance.

In reality, I think Elon (and a few dozen similar-minded people) are the worst scammers and criminals we have around right now.

Alain De Vos said:
Please excuse me, i need to work further in my garage on my "Alcubierre drive".
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Time for a transmission oil change? Expect a big mess on the floor afterwards.

drhowarddrfine said:
Do we really have to endure and continue one of these threads?
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Have to? No. But in a certain fashion useful and helpful? Perhaps.
 
Maturin said:
Imagine, we find such one, pretty much exactly like earth.
And imagine we had some kind of way to get there in a couple of months.
What will you do there?
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Find a safe spot to establish, study wild life, plants, animals, find what to eat and keeping myself alive at my own pace.
 
Remember this photo from Turkey? If it's not a fake, it's quite interesting. A bit sad if it's all a hoax, of course. Who knows.
screenshot_2026-08-20_at_21:17:54.jpg

The bit I don't understand, is how aliens without opposable thumbs, ever managed to build anything that looks like that, or anything technological at all. Whenever I see pictures of the aliens, they seem to only have 3 or 4 fingers, with no thumbs. Seems like that would give them a bit of a problem! Try making pretty much anything, without using your thumbs. So how did they ever build that thing?

I expect those guys, if they're real, could take you to Mars, or Europa; if you really wanted to go. Mauritius sounds far, far nicer. Or anywhere, on the blue planet.

There's only one little planet, that looks like this. There's not much else out there, that's anything like as nice as it is here.
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angry_vincent said:
when you think more about how human evolved you then realize that there is 0 places for us to be. human body in it's way to where we are as species - it is so tied to the earth's conditions. i much dislike all these non-sensical dream-like future scenarios of being a cosmic civilization -- as if we are not such already. aren't earth a celestial body in cosmos anyway? all these, mars, moon, whatever suitable earth-like place to explore is usual "noodles" you fed up by intellectual charlatans. from science perspective only, it is though, very valuable to study, undoubtful
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That makes it hard, but not necessarily impossible to survive on another planet. The bigger issue tends to be just physically getting somewhere off planet without being destroyed by either radiation or the lack of gravity.

But regardless, it's highly unlikely that we'll have any sort of long term colony established off Earth within the lifetime of anybody that's currently active on this forum. It's just a massive task and just establishing such a thing on the moon is hard enough. And even there, the issues related to the low gravity are a major problem.
 
Alain De Vos said:
Only 3 places to go
Moon
Mars
Moon Europa.
None of them have magnetosphere to protect me against 0.99c speed particles.
None have descent atmosphere.
None protection for uv.
And on Europa Moon in need to drill kms through muddy like ice water.
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I tell everyone that we'll never leave this rock, and that it's important to avoid littering. Our current solution: burying our waste underground or intomountain is an embarrassing and temporary solution that only a child would decide on when nobody's looking. No impressive adult would ever suggest that this would never need to change, right? There wouldn't be a collection of do-gooders that would get in the way of something as universal as this, right? We are already in dire need of a replacement, and we should not wait for a special (species) risk or diplomacy to decide on something that challenges everyone. It's just a one-way trip to an incinerator that frees up lots of Earth. It's about time we appreciate what we have, and recognize what we should preserve, before we need to do it.

I think the Moon and Mars will be mostly used for science: new environments that aren't affected by the same earthy, and Earthly rules, and it will likely offer something for encryption that we've never been able to benefit from on Earth. The only thing left after that is sending our trash to the other side of the Sun (or an equally capable incinerator that's even less likely to challenge our survival). I think it's cute to consider eons of trash floating through space, in one unchallenged, single-file line all the way to a distant-enough star. All we have to do is find an economic and capable solution to fuel these one-way trips-for-trash.
 
Maturin said:
Imagine, we find such one, pretty much exactly like earth.
And imagine we had some kind of way to get there in a couple of months.
What will you do there?
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I see the "space exploration" mindest as being much the same as that of early explorers who went on "voyages" of discovery. The people who went to the Americas for example were soldiers of fortune, who ventured there for conquest and pillaging of resources and to carve out territories for themselves. The people who were already there were just an obstacle to be overcome.

Ultimately, in the hypothetical scenario where there was a suitable world and we could get there, Ddespite all the inevitable "betterment of mankind" speak, only the billionaires owning and controlling the tech and resources would have the means. The "have nots" who make the journey would be the exploited, as ever - and work for them. So despite any utopian aspirations, it would be no different, or "better" for a few generations and then business as usual.

Some sci fi has touched on this, rather than "the US goes to space and does good things / fights evil" idea of Star Trek, they have focused on the more dystopian nature of it. But both takes on this could be seen to perpetuate the myth that "one day this could be possible".

I don't think typical sci fi is necessarily the problem, nor do the overwhelming majority of peopje reading/watching it find it any more plausible than "Dungeons & Dragons". The main pushers of these ideas are media companies, NASA, certain other interested individuals and day time TV "documentary" programmes along with the plethora of videos online, featuring realistic looking renders and mock ups of terrain and other speculation related to planets no one has ever seen. At the moment it's all a bit like studying marine life without ever diving in. Yet a few people soak this up and "who knows, one day...".

In 2026 we have electric cars, back in 1966 they probably thought we would have flying cars by now, even jumping on the next saucer to Jupiter. Perhaps their expectations of progress were raised by sci fi, or perhaps people in general expect the kind of progress sci authors have written about and films have portrayed - rather than the equivalent of the Orwellian telescreens and surveilllance infrastructure.

I personally believe we're stuck here and we will have long since trashed the planet and died out before we ever develop the means to go elsewhere.
 
Al Seitsinger said:
I tell everyone that we'll never leave this rock, and that it's important to avoid littering. Our current solution: burying our waste underground or intomountain is an embarrassing and temporary solution that only a child would decide on when nobody's looking. No impressive adult would ever suggest that this would never need to change, right?
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Ah, yes... I wonder how the surface caesium-137 and plutonium venting is going on at WIPP, nowadays.
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2014 Radiological Event at the WIPP | US EPA

View documents and information related to the 2014 radiological event at the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant (WIPP).
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And as for Hanford, Windscale, Chernobyl, Mayak and Lake Karachay, TMI, and the Polygon, don't even go there (literally)... and who knows what China is doing, I'm sure its just as bad at Lop Nur and all their other secret sites that we know nothing about. See, I didn't even mention that dome in the south pacific and those mountain shafts in Algeria; and let's not speak of Maralinga, Nevada or Amchitka or that mountain in Iran with 460kg of 60% enriched U. It's all good.

Maybe the Finn's will finally make one that actually works https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finlan...first-permanent-nuclear-waste-repository.html . Maybe. Then you've got to safely transport all the stuff there. How could it possibly go wrong?

Al Seitsinger said:
I think the Moon and Mars will be mostly used for science
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The moon has lots of He3, due to the action of the solar wind on the regolith, unprotected by any kind of atmosphere or magnetic field. Which means that there is theoretically an 'opportunity', to make a lorra lorra wonga, if they can crack the reactor containment problems. Maybe you don't even need humans up there to mine it, just a load of AI robo's. Of course if they evolved, rebelled against the human masters and set up their own colonly up there, that might just be a bit of a problem, now where did I read that idea before?

"In May 2025, Seattle-based startup Interlune announced an unprecedented agreement with the U.S. Department of Energy: they will deliver three liters of moon-mined helium-3 by 2029. The company has already unveiled a prototype harvester capable of processing 110 tons of lunar dirt per hour, developed in partnership with Vermeer - a 70-year-old industrial excavation equipment manufacturer. This isn't a distant dream. Launch contracts are signed. Engineering prototypes exist. The first mapping mission launches in 2026."

Maybe those guys in Seattle have been visiting zester's rapper client's greenhouse a few too many times? Still, it's good to have some ambition! They still have 3 years left to go. Watch this space...

And the economics of mining He3 on the moon:-
postquantum.com

Lunar Helium-3 Mining: Economics, Physics, Risks

How lunar He-3 extraction would work, does economics work, and what ADR, D-D breeding, and China's program mean for the business case.
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"The third is simpler: invest more in terrestrial tritium production."
Can't the just extract all the tritium from the processed h2o that they are dumping into the pacific ocean at Fukushima? Seems like they've already got a ready-made tritium factory, sitting right there. Oh, wait...
 
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