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OpenFreeNet said:
HomoSapiens is the AI frontier model of nature, but crows are the DeepSeek one! Birds have a very compact but powerful brain, especially crows and parrots. They outperform our mind in "computational" density per gram. For this reason, Parrots don't believe we are really intelligent, and they call us Stochastic Brickhead :)
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Crows are impressive. There's a famliy of 100 close to my home There have been complaints to the local authorities for noise and group-attacking cats.. They placed sound sirens in the trees to chase them away but the crows called another clan that I know from 2 km away at a school for help. They destroyed the tree speakers that react to crow sounds with extreme violence. 😍
 
All these ai references are morphing into gibberish to me. I neither know what 'ai frontier' or 'deepseek' is. Are those brands or versions?

Not sure a stance like 'a crows brain would *outperform* a human brain' would pass even the smell test (entirely different needs). They may have a higher neuron density though (that I can most certainly see) just based on the fact they need to be smaller and lighter than we do.
 
JohnK said:
All these ai references are morphing into gibberish to me. I neither know what 'ai frontier' or 'deepseek' is. Are those brands or versions?

Not sure a stance like 'a crows brain would *outperform* a human brain' would pass even the smell test (entirely different needs). They may have a higher neuron density though (that I can most certainly see) just based on the fact they need to be smaller and lighter than we do.
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The AI hype is just a query on big data. It's not that special. Search engines were there for years. This is only a fancy output of the same information. None of it is actually constructive and reaches beyond common knowledge to invent something new. We can see that because it didn't bring any significant new technology.
 
JohnK said:
All these ai references are morphing into gibberish to me. I neither know what 'ai frontier' or 'deepseek' is. Are those brands or versions?
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To be honest is not important because it was a joke. But anyway, an AI frontier model is the industry term for the biggest, most resource-heavy AI flagships models, like OpenAI's GPT or Anthropic's Claude. They require a lot of RAM and GPU power for answering to queries.

DeepSeek is an AI model famous for achieving rather good intelligence on a fraction of the compute resources of frontier models.

"Stochastic Brickhead" is the reversal of "Stochastic Parrot", that is the term that AI detractors use for qualifying AI.

JohnK said:
Not sure a stance like 'a crows brain would *outperform* a human brain' would pass even the smell test (entirely different needs). They may have a higher neuron density though (that I can most certainly see) just based on the fact they need to be smaller and lighter than we do.
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If you reread my sentence, I'm saying the same thing. You read it wrong.
 
JohnK said:
All these ai references are morphing into gibberish to me. I neither know what 'ai frontier' or 'deepseek' is. Are those brands or versions?
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A frontier model is one of the newest, most capable models, usually from Anthropic, OpenAI or Google.

Deepseek is a Chinese company and also the name of their LLM.
 
I like orcas as well. They are also very intelligent and vicious (they can eat a shark's liver and leave the rest if prey is abundant), and mysteriously (according to YouTube), they refrain from killing humans for reasons unknown.

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Some captive orcas have killed their trainers. Other orcas have attacked boats, though it is uncertain whether that is play or not. I feel as if I've read that they have been known to rock ice floes to possibly throw humans off and into the water, but I am also unsure if that was from a 60's or 70's magazine where they wanted to make it more exciting than accurate.
From a rather cursory web search
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orca_attacks

On the other hand, various dolphins (and orcas are large dolphins) have been known to protect swimmers from sharks, though I don't remember this very well and it may have been accidental.
Anyway, I wouldn't want to put it to the test and start swimming in a pod orcas. :)
 
I sometimes watch YouTube shorts when I'm on the throne (that's an idiom from Spain translated as is; you figure it out).

I'm sure people whose lives seem to revolve around doing all the time highly meaningful things that are especially devised to turn them into the next step in human evolution don't approve. I'm very worried. I'm trying to mend my ways, but it's hard. Also: florp you to Monday.

Two of my favorite channels are "Odd Danny," about animal curiosities, and "Shawn Grows" about plant curiosities.

I also watch a lot of K-pop shorts about idols being sexy, comedy shorts about people being funny, and sport short about humans playing sports.


 
cracauer@ said:
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JohnK: A "frontier model" is marketing jargon to make "latest version" sound more thrilling, somewhat from outer space (the last frontier), and on the verge of exterminating humanity.

Marketing has to invent new terms continually to sell old ideas as if they were new. It's a key aspect of that field.

Of course, now some "expert" will assert for the lives of his children that "frontier model" adds a certain nuance that "latest version" lacks, or maybe not because this preemptive answer is doing its job well. In any case, I say to the expert: florp you to Tuesday (Monday is already taken).
 
AlfredoLlaquet said:
Of course, now some "expert" will assert for the lives of his children that "frontier model" adds a certain nuance that "latest version" lacks, or maybe not because this preemptive answer is doing its job well. In any case, I say to the expert: florp you to Tuesday (Monday is already taken).
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I'm not an expert, but I disagree :-)

"Frontier model" is used for US made models that are very capable but expensive to use and run. It is like the "luxury" term for cars. Instead Chinese models are the cheap ones, and they are like the "utility/budget car" segment: they are good enough for many tasks, but at a fraction of the cost.

So "frontier model" stays more for "a brute force attempt to advance the state of art", without taking in consideration too much the cost.
 
Thank you everyone for your explanation(s).

Here's my take on it (I don't care if you think it's intelligent or not. I don't care if you "like me" or not; like yourself or your family instead):
If you do something with a "robot" (feel free to use that as a placeholder for the proper term) instead of by yourself -e.g., write a program/book/recipe/homework/etc., that to me would be like you saying "you completed a marathon in a taxi" (you did all the training and then you paid someone else to dive you across the finish line--meaning: you are an idiot).

I'm tired of people saying how they've used a robot for X or Y. And the newest robot is good for Z. If your using the robot that much--that the specific model matters--you're over using it. Go break your computer, or overrun some memory on your own.
 
OpenFreeNet said:
I read the Wikipedia page. Sincerely, I believed that Orcas were a lot lot more dangerous. The attacks are very rare (they can be listed in page), and many seems more interaction incidents than deliberated attacks, and nearly no deaths. I'm rather sure that if an Orca attack you in the water, no one can save himself, swimming faster :-)
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It might also be deduced that if an attack occurs, it very rarely leaves evidence or witnesses, thus increasing the list of "lost at sea" and not "eaten by sea panda". Just a thought.
 
I do remember when I was into scuba diving and read all sorts of diving books. One had a section on dangers with columns of effects, treatment, etc.
The section for orcas, then more commonly known as killer whales, was "Unlikely to survive" I still remember that (from my teens or twenties) because it struck me as funny at the time. compared to treatment for shark bite, venomous stings, etc
 
Crivens said:
It might also be deduced that if an attack occurs, it very rarely leaves evidence or witnesses, thus increasing the list of "lost at sea" and not "eaten by sea panda". Just a thought.
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For sure the Wikipedia page does not report all the attacks of Orcas ever made on Earth. But also the page about cocrodile, it is likely to lack some case :)

So the numbers can be different, but the substance remains the same, because in the specific case of Orcas, many attacks are reported in captivity (i.e. a controlled environment with witness), other against boats, and rarely someone swim alone, and isolated in the ocean. Maybe some small group of kayak, can be a case.

Moreover orcas are usually in groups/pods, so if they reach a group of people in the water, near the coast, there should be visible signs.

I asked now to AI, and it says that Orcas do not eat humans: they have a very strict diet. The few documented attacks are probably due stressful situations.

So yes, I were always scared from Orcas, but in reality jellyfish are a lot more dangerous!
 
scottro said:
Cows can be dangerous too. About 22 deaths from cows a year.
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I don't know the numbers, but apart from farmers getting injured every year there are several severe incidents hikers have with cows. Some are even lethal.
It's the stupid humans that don't grasp that a 600kg to >1t cow simply has superior power over a medium sized ape with 10% of her weight, that a real world animal ain't no cuddle toy from some Disney movie. And cows are seldom alone. And they are way faster than many humans think. (city people. country people know those things 😁:cool:)
Most incidents happen when those morons try to play bullfight, so provoking the cows. Or even better when they try to get to a new born calf. Better test such reactions first by trying suddenly to pawn an unkown mother's baby. The chances to survive that are 90% better. 😁
 
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