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I tend to agree with RussellASC in that BSD should remain an expert system. ie, you need to know something about computers (or at least have a hacker's curiosity) to get something out of it. We (I) don't want the mass hordes poisoning the...

I'm not sure courting end users should be the goal. Look at what Gnome, Wayland, and even newer Firefox versions are doing. They are requiring more and more Linux-only software and design choices (pulseaudio, Wayland only, systemd, etc). To run...

grandpa Yes it does. And it has/had indent-sensitive semantics. (shudder) Also, let me congratulate you on your signature, good sir. Now I have a nice stroll down memory lane.

I am not sure that this is the correct place to discuss my latest issue, but here goes: I have been trying, for the past several days, to rescue some files from a messed-up Windows install on a friend's laptop which has a 128 GB SSD installed in...

Then I would like to see a Wayland demo program that does at least 2d graphics from a FreeBSD text-only CLI. How do you show a pixel in a specific color? I would find it very interesting to not need anything related to X.org (while using an open...

You need to create them first.

So if I wanna install this thing and try it out on my freebsd 14.3 or 15.0 box, is there a way to do that? Or is it too early in development for that?

You may be totally wrong as the OP probably got there with the help of some friend. And now another friend wants to influence with "something better" the OP may never reach through own knowledge. My advise is, don't let anyone touch your devices...

One thing that FreeBSD has over any other OS, as you can see, is a passionate community eager to help. That's for sure.

Well, I brought down my company's mailserver last Friday afternoon. (No, I didn't go home, leaving it broken). And, I'm sorta exaggerating. The time was way off on the server, I reset the time, checked right after to see mail wasn't working, sort...

we developed a habit of echoing globs before we actually run their commands

Y'know that's a good question. I'm assuming yes, because of RH and its ilk, but they might have some X stuff in there. I know that building labwc on RH requires having XWayland installed. (or for running it anyway).

A bit harsh. Sure, perhaps the guy(s) is using it to to grow his zig skills, but its still good to see some new work being done related to X11, and something useful may yet come out of it. According to the article they are also attempting to...

Just had to add -f, then it works.

Yes. The problem is Red Hat and Canonical made Linux people think X11 has no future. This dogma was financially backed by large sums of money and pushed around for years. Resulting in Linux audience at mass rejecting X11 religiously, and then...

Looks interesting to see, but I dont trust in nothing coming from linux(based in the article) in other words "Wayland moves aways xorg" "linux desktop" "all is obsolete,whe are future" That aptitudes makes me sick

I hope this hasn't already been posted, I did a search on 'Phoenix' but didn't find any related hits. It's a bit out of date. https://linuxiac.com/phoenix-emerges-as-a-modern-x-server-written-from-scratch-in-zig/ This one looks like a clean-room...

I’m not entirely sure how useful my project would be to xtd in its current form. We’re both using fluent, chainable styles. xtd relies on multiple backends (Qt5, GTK3, GTK4, FLTK, etc.), while my framework doesn't need to use a thirdparty...

I tried mkdir /tmp/a && mount_nullfs / /tmp/a && mount_nullfs /tmp/a / Instant hard reset. It wasn't even read-only yet. 😆

Besides X11 ,sounds extreme,but that people is the source and power who maybe destroy linux You say it "religiously"

Does wayland enable a graphical screen without Xorg installed?

Yes. The problem is Red Hat and Canonical made Linux people think X11 has no future. This dogma was financially backed by large sums of money and pushed around for years. Resulting in Linux audience at mass rejecting X11 religiously, and then...

Solo projects described as "Modern $old_stable_tech written from scratch in $new_cool_language" are nothing more than author's exercise in that language.

Or they are back at their old desk two month later for twice the bucks as a freelancer. That happend to a coworker of my dad. You can say about banks what you want, but they have a better sense of risk-down-the-road than the run-off-the-mill...

Are you still testing this? Maybe try release 15.0. Different system, new driver (graphics/drm-66-kmod).

I haven't tested this, but have you tried something like pkg add `cat /path/to/package_list.txt`? It should resolve the dependencies as long as you have them in the same directory. Make sure the entire package_list.txt list has only valid...

Weirdly, they have had that strategy available to them for a decade in the form of outsourcing to india/china. They never really took it. Possibly because the COBOL programmers would be more likely to just retire a few years early than take the...

Since the creation of C and C++, there have been many different programming languages in vogue. None have outclassed C or C++. So, even the disk will end, and the favorites will still be there.

Well, you're buying the product not the salesman. That the product comes from China is not Amazon's fault if that product is what you want.

If you're not using Xorg, you're using wayland. I don't see much hope for anything else. Especially if it's written in Zig.

Decades ago, I had nothing to do. I was an electronics guy but I had nothing to do one day and the software manager asked me to do him a favor and erase/reformat about 50 floppy disks using a computer in one large room. No, we didn't have a bulk...

I have great respect for Dennis Ritchie and Bill Joy. C and Unix are what really raised me. vi matches the human physical senses well, and once you get used to it, you can't let go. I've added undo and redo commands to bi. Please try it.

Is it still possible to downgrade the root filesystem to read-only? `mount -u -o ro /` gives me mount: /dev/gpt/rootfs: Device busy

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Yeah, globbng fails are mainly a matter of time.

What is the version you want to build? In ports we have qemu-devel at 10.1.20251130. You will have to install a big number of run and build time dependencies before you can compile qemu on your own.

The video did not have such a problem so I don't want to be out on my own. I'll just carry using something which is known to work.

No, you just need to follow the error messages. It says you lack ninja, so you need to install ninja.

I was just trying to follow the video. I guess the version I was trying to build is not yet available on FreeBSD.

WHy don't you use the port or package? Works for me.

I like the reference to vi - the text editor that is a legend. It's written in the days of legends when the general attitude was like "We want to do an operating system but to do that we first need to do a programming language. So we did the C...

Those geniuses did not know about the RFC that set the date for "unknown birthdate" and claimed that there were tons of people who are >120 years old collecting money. Same with elections. There is a huge problem with implied boundary conditions...

Not surprised. You have to hide it better. 😁 Let's nest all digital communication methods we ever had in 1 centralized system. Nothing to hide...

Yes, AI has a great future in comedy I guess.

Yes, using the AI as an analysis tool to help understand the existing code might be where it will be most useful, that's what my friend said.

Indeed. And it is a really great tool for that. Rarely its brought up because analysis, documentation and testing is seen as "boring" and doesn't really massage this current "AI Hype" on i.e LinkedIn but really is the more realistic outcome. AI...

Its probably because the code sprawl is so vast, and so boring that no-one else wants to do it. The challenge is split into 2 parts: Learning COBOL (easy) Learning the existing system codebases (difficult) I don't feel AI/LLMs are really up to...

WHy don't you use the port or package? Works for me.

After watching a video on installing qemu View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmVK8_F-kRk I thought I would give it a go.... in the process of running ../configure gmake I end up with Help!

By Drew Gallatin, speaking on behalf of core@. In Memoriam: Hans Petter William Sirevåg Selasky (✟ hselasky@) The FreeBSD community was saddened this month by the tragic death of one of its most prolific contributors. We learned that Hans...