Will FreeBSD be available in California in 2027?

As a FreeBSD user in California, things here have gotten pretty insane. FreeBSD is open source. On all the OSS OSs, this can be ripped out easily enough by the users who know how to do it, so the law now becomes unenforceable and it will make it's way into the annals of bizarre laws that are on the books but never enforced.
Well, they can just ban your access to a C compiler, can't they. I'm going to shut up now, I don't want to give them any ideas... 😂
 
Just place "This software is prohibited to be used in California" into the license.
If Californians then use it anyway it's up to them if they get in trouble with their state.

AFAIK those Californians will also not stop drinking alcohol and still eat pork meat, even it's prohibited in several countries. The Californians don't obey about other's countries laws (why shall they do so?), so why shall any non-Californian care about their laws?
 
It is a sad irony for former Commie block citizen to see the Land of the Free go the digital gulag of the worst cringe sort.
Rest assured we will follow you as soon as someone translates it and the wheels of bureaucracy shift gears once more.
btw say goodbye to local accounts...there is going to be push for online accounts only (microsoft style) in order to centrally check and monitor every netizen's word he utters on the ether. The new Kerberos on FreeBSD is the first step to that. Of course something like systemd will have to ensure it runs all the time. And wayland, so no window can be opened unchecked for the id flag.
Computers - every control freak's wet dream.

“The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.” — Robert A. Heinlein
 
It's that thing George Orwell wrote in '1984', about the future being a boot stamping on a human face forever... I don't know where it's going to end. Very sad to see it happening. Can't they just ban the damn porn already and be done with it? Oh well...
 
It's that thing George Orwell wrote in '1984', about the future being a boot stamping on a human face forever... I don't know where it's going to end. Very sad to see it happening. Can't they just ban the damn porn and be done with it? Oh well...
That comes all by cludging, fighting symptoms, postponing, hive off,...always chosing the cheapest, easiest ways instead of actually solving problems.
drhowarddrfine already said it:
Better parenting. Forbid your child from accessing the things this is attempting to protect them from.
You don't need to forbid, if you have educated, maybe even enlighted childs - which of course is even more effort.
Within the families of our friends most kids are that way. And they are the happier childs. More successful, too.

To emphasize for healthy food needs effort. Ban potatoe chips was easy, but will not solve the problem. You can ban chocolate, sugar, fat, salt,...and still have not solved the problem.
In contrary, all you get is a society becoming more and more immature, because maturity is the whole point. More prohibitions to protect the morons from themselves lead to even less maturity, needing more prohibitions - a vicious circle.

Just recently the USA banned books about LGBT for children. Adults passing their own ignorance on their own children instead of first educating themselves, then their children. Producing even more ignorance and more prohibitions.
And in one generation LGBT people are openly hunted, arrested, and even killed, again.
I neither call that progress, nor freedom. That's back to the middle ages.
While the difference is, the middle ages did not had any of our modern powerful technologies - which are the success and the results of open minded science, and not ignorant backwood hillbillies.
 
Yeah, some of the other videos of Berkeley, MO were not so... encouraging. Sad to see. It must have been optimistic and prosperous in its heyday, in the 40s, 50s and 60s. Like so many places... before "globalisation".
 
You don't need to forbid, if you have educated, maybe even enlighted childs - which of course is even more effort.
We never had any prn when I was a kid, it simply didn't exist, all the way through my childhood and teenage years. AFAIK none of my classmates ever suffered, due to the lack of it...
Still, this is getting onto contentious ground, so I'll stop there.
 
We never had any prn when I was a kid, it simply didn't exist
Oh, but there was. Maybe you digged not your parent's underwear drawers, or cardboard boxes in the attic deeply enough, or had the right friends... 😜
Agreed: It was by far less, and way harder to get, on VHS, or Betamax, or Super 8, or in form of magazines, black-and white fotos, or sketches, or painting... but there was porn. There always was.

Your example with porn is very good:
For centuries adults trying to prevent kids (and adults) from watching porn. But because of the internet today's kids have access to masses of free porn of any kind, I never thought those categories may even exist. 😂
As a result the people grown up with the internet are by far way more educated and cleared up, and dealing way more mellow with sexuality than my own generation, more than my parents, more than my grandparents,...They are more mature about sexuality than former generations.

You may also find this in comparing cultures.
There are many cultures where human bodies, particulary women need to be (way) more covered than in the so called "free modern western civilizations." Point is: Depending on what people are used to, they get sexually aroused by seeing even small parts of a human body - or believe somebody else could.
When the Europeans got first contact with other cultures in Africa, America, or Asia they found people almost or completely naked - sure, why wear clothes when you don't need to, because it's hot, and you don't get a stiffy by just seeing a woman's naked breasts? That was the European's issue, not the one of those cultures used to this as being normal.
Now the "western civilizations" tell people from other cultures they shall wear less, having completely forgotten, or ignoring the fact, wearing short skirts, showing naked legs, not having women's hair covered,... was an even punishable no-go not fifty years ago. At the same time they don't allow anybody to wear less what they define as "correct". What an arrogance. Who do they think they are to define how much is too much, or too less.

What makes me really angry is when I see tourists showing naked breasts or drink alcohol in public in another country, where this is not unaccepted, while at the same time they come from a country themselves where exactly this same behaviour is prohibited and punished by law.
This is uppity, a combination of no respect, ignorance, and arrogance.

But you cannot teach this by prohibitions.
People need to be educated to respect others, dealing maturely with other's opinions, tolerate others, and not vice versa, just do whatever they like and require other's just have to tolerate that.
This cannot be done by laws.
Laws can only be a guideline, prevent the worst, or being misused to harrass, or empower ignorance.
But tolerance, and respect - love - comes from other sources: intelligence, knowledge and mature.
 
You can see graphics like this at (link Wikipedia) Pompeii "today" in 2026. And those were written/drawn in 79 AD ! (Actual prn NOT shown - the Wikipedia link is rated "G" - General Admission)

Maybe not build the city next to the unstable volcano next time?

I guess my next Pompeii gate pass is going to come with "viewing" restrictions? :cool:
 
I think malicious compliance is a good way to tackle dumb/criminal rules made by dumb/criminal people.

Open-source should not engage with this stuff. For one we don't have the legal infrastructure to even attempt.
 
I am wondering what can be harmful if you live only inside tty... Ascii-art porn would be an interesting conept...
Seems like majority of problems are around usage of GUI and desktop anyway. So how about restricting on the desktop level?
Still, the truth is that whatever all the OS developers will do, kids are going to find their ways anyway. Like it always has been...

I'm not supportive of anything around this legistlation but at least trying finding a workaround...
 
I've not read much about this elsewhere. Is this a law that's going to pass or something some idiot wants or feels that their voters want that will have noise made about it, then ignored? At any rate, it doesn't seem like it will effect that much. And if it bothers any large companies, I'm sure they'll find someone to bribe. Sad that the the US has become so corrupt--it may have always been so, but it's blatant now.
 
Oh, but there was. Maybe you digged not your parent's underwear drawers, or cardboard boxes in the attic deeply enough, or had the right friends... 😜
Come on, there was nothing like the ubiquitous, 24/7, touch of a button, free of charge, instant availability like there is today, and certainly not available to kids. It was unheard of where I grew up. The local shops on my estate didn't even sell the crappy top-shelf magazines they had in the 70's, at least, I don't remember ever seeing them.

It's not only porn though. I just heard a radio program about this poor girl:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Molly_Russell . It's heartbreaking, really.
So, they've got to do something. It's no good saying its up to the kids to resist it, and that somehow it's the kid's fault, or that the parents should have educated them better. That's just a bloody cop-out. Kids are vulnerable, of course they are, they're just kids.

On the other hand, I don't think there will be many 14 year olds using freebsd that they've hacked onto an old PC to look at that kind of crap. It's coming down through smartphones, first and foremost; that's how they are getting exposed to it. Maybe the aussies have got the right idea after all.
 
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