What can be done with a PC today, that could not be done 25 years ago?

My first PC was in 1989. The hardware didn't fascinate me; the software did because it could help with my office work. This was the aim for 25 years: changing the OS and software.

Windows 95 was an amazing improvement until I found Linux in 1996. In 2011, GNOME extensions provided the direction I had been looking for, allowing to select helpful tools and apps to improve and speed up the work. The final discovery, in 2019, was FVWM, which provides an endless platform for creating the right tools without the usual Desktop Environments' slowness and rigidity.

What is still missing after 25 years is an efficient and easy-to-find file manager.
I used Linux mainly to breath life in to old computers.
GNOME and KDE was too heavy for that. I loved Enlightenment. Tinkered with OpenBox and finally settled on XFCE.

Maybe I am stupid but I don't understand why Two Pane File Managers are not the norm. Total Commander on Windows and Android is a must.
In Linux the DoubleCommander or Midnight Commander for cli. But that's it.
DOS NAVIGATOR and FAR were way superior tho, even had plugins to connect and debug phones ffs.

Desktop should be lightweight app. Windows biggest mistake was putting it into kernel - any error there gave you Blue Screen.

Currently testing omarchy (wayland, hyprland, quickshell/Qt) - not keyboard centric UI biggest fan but on laptop it makes sense. So far so good - concept is promising.
Alas with Ai helpers the Ui will most likely change a lot. Especially for ordinary users - they really need just a few options visible to click at.
 
I remember a few times, playing simple games like asteroids... time disappears, and when you finally stop playing, its like your mind has had a big rest and feels clearer. Somehow, occupying your brain playing the game gives your mind a rest. I remember thinking it was interesting at the time, I guess there's some cognitive thing going on. Then again, sleep is pretty good too. I've definitely had the thing of waking up and the solution to some hard problem I've been working on has popped into my head, and somehow my mind has been working on it while I've been asleep. It's quite interesting.
Brain does not come with manual. It is really powerful CPU generating a lot of noise. Forcing it to shut up clears the cache, it seems.
I can attest to the solutions in dream. Had few of those. And not fuzzy ones. Very clear solutions to concrete, very technical problems. But I was sweating about them for weeks prior.
 
according to my irc logs back then people on #freebsd on undernet had 128 to 512 mb ram and cpus ranging from 200 to 1000 mhz.
most ran some branch of 4.x.
 
Very true. I bought my current small N100 minipc for just over 100 GBP a couple of years ago, direct from Shenzhen. It had 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, gigabit ethernet, wifi, bluetooth, build-in soundcard, graphics hardware support for up to three 4K monitors(!!), built-in usb hub, and a 4-core cpu that I found I could compile a kernel on in about the same time as a 2015-era xeon, which is to say, pretty good. That spec would have been a monster machine in 2000, if you could even buy one that powerful back then. I think I paid something like 130 GBP for the new one, including shipping to UK; whereas the 2000-era machine would have cost thousands. Absolutely astonishing, if you stand back and think about it. Of course this is a tiny box by comparison with no expansion slots etc, but it's still very impressive compared to the year 2000 PC. Unfortunately the prices seem to have doubled over the last year, I looked up how much they cost a couple of months ago and it's more than double what I paid two years ago.

But compared to how much you had to spend to get a pc in 2000... its a drastic change, especially if you think of it in terms of the number of hours you have to work to buy one. And the difference to an original 1983 IBM PC-AT with it's 10 MB hard drive, 640k dram, and 286 cpu, is stark.

It's gone from this, back in the early 80's...
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to this, around the year 2000...
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to this, today...
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... and the new one is much more powerful, and with greater capacity, than the old ones.

So... what has enabled this change? Shrinking lithography geometries, achieved by massive invesment in the production technology by companies like ASML, TSMC, the dram and flash manufacturers, and we have got to give full credit to Intel, coz' it's still an Intel cpu that is at the heart of it, and indeed the architecture and reference design will all come from Intel (and perhaps microsoft has some input); IBM is mostly out of the picture now, since they dumped their PC divison, whereas in 2000 they would still have played a major role. I tried to find a spec for the number of transistors in the N100 SoC, I can't find the number published anywhere, but it would not surprise me if it's of the order of 5-10 billion transistors on the chip. The real magic, then, is the production technlogy, that permits a chip like that to be economically manufactured, with a high enough yield, permitting it to be sold at a low enough price, such that that the machine itself can be profitably retailed for just over 100 GBP.

Another observation is that the amount of material in the thing is much smaller than the 2000-era PC, which means less junk ultimately going into landfill, which can only be a good thing. Hopefully the spoil-heap and chemical pollution arisiing from the minerals and hydrocarbons they had to mine and refine to build the thing is also much smaller, along with the energy consumed in the manufacturing process.

Another remarkable feature that hardly ever gets mentioned is that the new one is backwards compatible to the old one, which means that the software written 25 years ago can (mostly) still be run on the new one today. Which is also something that we are so used to that we hardly notice it, but is a very important feature. Hang on to your open architecture, kids... if they ever take that away, you'll be paying a heck of a lot more.

And one more... the modern machine consumes only about 10W in normal operation, I've measured it with a power meter. That year 2000 PC probably burned around 80-100W, or more, by comparison. Which makes a big difference if you're running 1000 of them across your company.

It would be fascinating to know the factory gate price, and the factory BOM; I wonder how much Intel sells the N100 for in quantity. The industry in south china appears to be split between a group of companies that specialize in making the motherboards, and another group of firms that design and build the finished units, and then finally retailers, although often the assemblers themselves seem to retail the boxes directly. I've noticed that you can usually find 3 or 4 different label 'makes' on aliexpress, all selling similar looking machines, that have the exact same hardware spec, and obviously are being built using the same motherboard. The assemblers differentiate their products by the mix of components they put in the box and things like the level of bios customisation and support, the one I have actually has quite a good bios with lots of settings available. The motherboard in my "Soyo" branded machine comes from an oem called Weibu https://www.weibu.com/index.php?catid=16 , which looks like being a big OEM. So the final assembler designs the case, specs the box, buys in the motherboard and other components, and does the build, test and homologation (assuming they do that stuff!).

Which makes me wonder how much of the production is subsidised by their government, and to what extent these low-priced goods are being dumped on western markets, essentially at below the cost of production. That retail price I paid two years ago would be pretty much impossible for any western manufacturer to achieve. And I don't think it's down to labour costs now, since labour is only a small fraction of the build cost today, as most of the production is highly automated. It's a real shame there aren't any british firms making these, I'm sure we have the companies that could do it it if made business sense to do so. AFAIK there are no US or european manufacturers of these boxes either, perhaps Taiwan still make some, I don't know about South Korea. Even at this year's prices which are around double what I paid two years ago, I think a western manufacturer would struggle to make any real money on these kinds of products. So I can understand, to some extent, why IBM got out of that market, for example.

And I almost forgot... software! That box as sold comes with a full copy of the latest version of windows installed. When I bought it I looked up the retail price of the equivalent version of windows, say if I had wanted to build my own machine and install windows on it... and I think it cost almost as much as the price of the whole finished mini-pc. So Microsoft are in there somewhere too, they must have done a deal with the south china firms to allow this to be shipped with a valid copy of windows. I'm pretty sure they're not installing pirated versions of windows like they did in the old days, it all looks fully legit. So that's another part of this picture; it's all pretty remarkable. Of course freebsd went onto mine as soon as I got it. :-) We are so used to this kind of progress that we don't notice it until you actually sit down and figure it out. There has certainly been very big changes in PC technology since the year 2000.
From what I heard (grain of salt)...
China's biggest advantage is:
a] Energy prices - all is energy essentially - Gov is subsidizing new (coal, solar, nuclear whatever) grid like every week. West is borrowing money to close them.
b] Be happy Microsoft is sponsoring your HW, so you can put Linux/FreeBSD on it.
c] To change manufacture i.e. to fire all those people and hire them to do something more useful/profitable at the moment is extremely easy in China. Chinese are Ok with that, besides being dictatorship o/c, their prosperity is much better than their parents and the trend is up. West can't say that.
d] Chinese boom, according to economist Richard Werner, is result of banking deregulation - similar to 80's Japan (where Chinese learn this) and 00's and 50's Germany. Meanwhile EU and USA and Japan are consolidating regional, nimble banks in to Central Banks/BlackRock who are willing to deal with large, already established players only.
 
..... I don't understand why Two Pane File Managers are not the norm. Total Commander on Windows and Android is a must.
In Linux the DoubleCommander or Midnight Commander for cli. But that's it.

Alas with Ai helpers the Ui will most likely change a lot. Especially for ordinary users - they really need just a few options visible to click at.
The file managers in the past and present are designed for users to memorize the folder and file names. It is manageable with the latest, but not with the old. I have hundreds of files and documents from 2009 to 2017 related to different social work projects.

Now, when you mentioned it, maybe AI is the solution by describing the content of the file instead of searching with a single keyword.
 
This machine was a leftover from dad-in-law. I put FreeNAS on it and it's still there ....

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I can't say that I had any particular problem running FreeBSD and Linux on 2001 era PCs.

No particular problem, but they could not do much, at least, not on the desktop. Linux, with full GUI, took more system resources than Windows 95 or NT 4.0. Playing video and audio was more difficult. Finding drivers for anything could be difficult. There were not many applications.
 
No particular problem, but they could not do much, at least, not on the desktop. Linux, with full GUI, took more system resources than Windows 95 or NT 4.0. Playing video and audio was more difficult. Finding drivers for anything could be difficult. There were not many applications.
I was running audio programming work on FreeBSD and Linux in the 1990s and never stopped. My desktop was on FreeBSD all the time after I gave up the SPARCStation.

Video playing was a mixed bag. Videos from disk - no problems in Xine. Early youtube in a browser - big problem.

I can't compare resource usage to Windows NT 4, but I doubt that my fvwm2 desktop was burning more resources.
 
What could not be done 25 (or more) years ago on a PC:

Well, full-featured software was definitely not free. WordPerfect 6.0, I kind of remember that being freaking expensive. If you wanted your own copy, but were reluctant to pay what it takes - you were out of luck. Similar story with compilers. These days, full-featured software is perfectly available for free, for just about any task you choose, it's just a matter of wrapping your mind around that task.

Blender, however, was a notable exception to that rule. It was full-featured, it was free, and it could run on consumer-grade machines in 1990s. Blender is still full-featured and free of charge.

Yeah, some software simply did not exist back then (like bittorrent, bitcoin, and LLMs).

The very definition of what AI even is - it was very different 25 years ago as opposed to today. And even today, it's difficult to find a so-called "standard" definition of AI. The stuff that I was learning about when I was in college - that can be called "Hard" AI, in the sense that it operates under hard constraints and exact matches. By comparison, "Soft" AI is information that a chatbot will use after running a fuzzy search.
 
Video calls, 4K streaming, running AI models locally, even just today's JS-heavy websites, none of that was happening on 2001 hardware, fast internet or not. The bandwidth might've been fine, but the compute power just wasn't there yet.
 
One thing I really appreciate about the modern web is that you can have presentation slide programs and spreadsheets on the web with (totally overblown) Javascript. That wasn't possible in 2001 and it was a pain to exchange or make these things with local applications.
 
You could embed a midi file into a website and have it play for your visitors without the browser preventing auto playback. And a lot of other very fun things. But not anymore. :/ Things are either blocked in the browser or on the web server. The web was cool when it wasn't centralized into a handful of online services. These days being "online" doesn't mean what it used to. Neither does "surfing" the web. These days it's logging into a service and seeing ads and videos from a handful of advertisers and video platforms. The internet died a sad death. I'm sure you can find a video about it on your favorite social media platform. haha The internet used to be really really cool. But now it's just a bunch of folks making copy cat trash and or having a server generate content and posting it for them while they take a cut of the advertising pay. It's been degraded into a pile of poo.
 
Gravis ultrasound (GUS) came out in early '90s. I think I still have a later version (1996?) around somewhere....
Never heard it. The content of magazinne shareware/shovelware cdroms in the 90's in Europe was unspecified adlib.or primitive sampled soundblaster "stream" tech. Was GUS really superior? What did it do better? I think this whole PC audio branch was a decline of what already existed on 8-bit computers.
 
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