Thanksgiving - no donation this year

XMR Donations could solve basically all of the mentioned problems, but I do not know if it would be feasible for the foundation.
 
baaz said:
XMR Donations could solve basically all of the mentioned problems, but I do not know if it would be feasible for the foundation.
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Read what I wrote above: In the US, anonymous donations of $250 or more are illegal; under $250, it depends on how one interprets the record keeping requirements of the law (and other details, such as involvement in political campaigns). Using crypto currencies is a favorite tool of criminals and anarchists, but does not help with getting around the legal system. If you want to make a large donation and not have your identity exposed to the public, that is already easily possible, by using paths such as creating a dedicated LLC, using a suitably named DAF (donor advised fund), or hiring an attorney to process the donation for you. All of these paths make the donor impossible or hard to identify, but law enforcement (including the tax authorities) can still puncture that veil. That's by design.
 
bakul said:
From https://hbkcpa.com/insights/donor-data-a-complex-issue/
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"An organization must keep its donors’ names and addresses in its records and make them available to the IRS in the event of an examination."
ralphbsz said:
For donations of $250 and more, the nonprofit has to mail an acknowledgement of the donation to the donor, including its own tax ID number; that automatically means that an anonymous donation of $250 or more is de-facto impossible.
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Maturin said:
more than a certain amount of money (and in my eyes it has to be published, too, which is not always the case.)
But why A) for a non-political, non-profit orga like FreeBSD, and B) already for 50 bucks?
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My first thoughts were PayPal, or that it was required by IRS, though, that doesn't seem to be the case, so far.

This is the second time this year that someone posted their disappointment to this level. The other time, ykla sent certified mail from China, bc she was a fan of FreeBSD. They probably didn't know what the letter was, not realizing that it was someone who used to enjoy FreeBSD, then it got lost afterwards. They didn't realize many of her specific efforts to bridge a Chinese community to software and to FreeBSD. They knew of her efforts, and also of her following FreeBSD, but not realizing it was of the same person. They didn't put it together though, and the aftermath was: when she left, those projects also stopped. They published about those projects, after she left, not realizing those efforts left with her, unless someone else picks it up.
Thread recommend-establishing-dedicated-working-group-for-external-contributions.98355

In https://www.freebsd.org/status/report-2025-04-2025-06/#_chinese_freebsd_community_cfc FreeBSD staff wrote about these upcoming projects, not realizing they had her name on them, after she had already left. It wasn't malice or a snub, but they need to be more attentive to stuff like this, and to keep patrons satisfied. It means a lot to be a fan of a project, and it deserves acknowledgement. They acknowledged her, and her efforts separately, but they failed to acknowledge her attempts to contact the organization, as they probably weren't used to that.

I hope she will have joined another good BSD or illumos operating system.
 
There are people on this forum who react like this.
Code: 
Presumably the Chinese freebsd users the OP claims to represent want their
changes to be integrated to a deadline in order to meet a wider project deadline,
ie they are using freebsd for some other project (presumably commercial)
that is being developed to a deadline and they want their new feature supported
in freebsd so that they can achieve their own project deadline. Why else would
there be any time pressure to integrate external contributions of this type?
 
Charlie_ said:
There are people on this forum who react like this.
Code: 
Presumably the Chinese freebsd users the OP claims to represent want their
changes to be integrated to a deadline in order to meet a wider project deadline,
ie they are using freebsd for some other project (presumably commercial)
that is being developed to a deadline and they want their new feature supported
in freebsd so that they can achieve their own project deadline. Why else would
there be any time pressure to integrate external contributions of this type?
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I'm not defending that part. If it's their deadline, that's their responsibility, not FreeBSD's. If they want help, they can use FreeBSD, fix their part and give back improvements, pay someone to fix their part or do something along those lines.

The projects were a port revival of a Chinese messenger, and documentation in Simplified Chinese. That benefits more than their project. Though, if there's a deadline, that part is their responsibility.
 
I made my December donation a few days ago and, apart for been asked twice to make it recurrent, everything went smooth and I didn't have to give away my address and so on.

Edit: nice touch: my name is already visible in the donor list, I guess it's probably added automatically.
 
I get that they want data on who uses their systems to better appeal to them. It should always be voluntarily. It's a big mistake, to attempt to get involuntarily information from those who are donating to them. Ask for voluntarily comments instead, asking for which goes along with their roadmap, or what they like about it, or a survey which is optional.

They need to find another way to get data, in a way which doesn't bother people. It's a mistake to not allow donators to not opt out of those questions.

Charlie_ said:
Where can you find something like that?
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Idk, all I have are the links, including thread, I have posted. You may have meant that rhetorically, of what you posted. It's not necessarily that. It benefit an ethnic or cultural community to have QQ messenger and have documentation for a written dialect of Chinese. The quarterly release by FreeBSD even showcased her and a Chinese community's specific efforts.

They can be kept separate, and addressed with better by the FreeBSD Foundation. The Foundation can decline which is not of their interest. Which QQ and Simplified Chinese documentation are part of FreeBSD's interests, as they have even written about. Then, dealt with inquiries better. And if it came down to a commercial deadline by another group, politely decline it, or find a way that FreeBSD benefits in return, and also, doesn't have FreeBSD take responsibility for which isn't their responsibility, such as another project's deadlines. A lot of organizations use FreeBSD, without assuming deadlines and other responsibilities onto FreeBSD.

I recall, that a FreeBSD based OS relied on FreeBSD's approval of software for its base system. One didn't make it to stable, and they mistakenly released something which wasn't vetted enough into their base system. They relied on FreeBSD for vetting it, but it didn't make it past Head branch. Was that TrueNAS? But they didn't have deadlines expected on FreeBSD. They just got ahead of themselves, and saw a software go into Head as assuming it would be ok, as it was eagerness as opposed to a pushed deadline onto another project.
 
fmc000 said:
just say you're unemployed..
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Folks be just a little more creative instead of tainting yourself with such valid bits.

Find out what the validation is passing, the maximum string length, play with random strings, fill in a message
but be aware that your data may get sold or further processed by KI, passed on to DODGE or ICE.

My suggestion: ssǝuᴉsnq ɹnoʎ ɟo ǝuoN
 
POSIX.1 said:
Folks be just a little more creative instead of tainting yourself with such valid bits.

Find out what the validation is passing, the maximum string length, play with random strings, fill in a message
but be aware that your data may get sold or further processed by KI, passed on to DODGE or ICE.

My suggestion: ssǝuᴉsnq ɹnoʎ ɟo ǝuoN
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Maybe I wasn't clear: it's just a check mark you have to uncheck, nothing you need to write in a "creative" way.
 
fmc000 said:
I made my December donation a few days ago and, apart for been asked twice to make it recurrent, everything went smooth and I didn't have to give away my address and so on.

Edit: nice touch: my name is already visible in the donor list, I guess it's probably added automatically.
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But your name is there for everyone to see. 😂. Not necessarily a big deal. I know, you probably unchecked it, to give approval to show it.
fmc000 said:
Maybe I wasn't clear: it's just a check mark you have to uncheck, nothing you need to write in a "creative" way.
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POSIX.1 said:
Find out what the validation is passing, the maximum string length, play with random strings, fill in a message
but be aware that your data may get sold or further processed by KI, passed on to DODGE or ICE.
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It won't be the FBI knocking for legitimate reasons. It will be ICE accusing white people, who've had full ancestry within the US since 1800, of being illegal immigrants from Haiti. Then, they deport them to a country that will agree to accept them based on their creative fiction.
 
Once upon a time we had fun pasting hex dumps of >64k into such fields and watch the ISS error page, followed by a disruption in services. These days I would check if the fields would take SQL statements which might streamline the customers data base space requirements, if you get my drift...

But since someone mentioned to donate to me, don't. Do what I have not the time to do - read to school children, ask what the nearest orphanage needs (not only in the comming days), check with your local animal shelter (you might find a forever friend there).
fmc000 said:
/me leaves this thread for good. I don't understand why everything is politics these days. Bah.
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While I understand the sentiment, there is a legitimate point to be made here. Us non-US citizens might be denied entry for any reason, be it meme pictures or things we wrote on the internet. After that, you will have to check the box "have you ever been deported from a country" in ANY application to other countries. This can put a serious dent into your career or your life choices. Yes, it sucks that everything is political these days - because some $EXPLETIVE persons made it political for so many people who had no interest in the matter to begin with.
 
Crivens said:
because some $EXPLETIVE persons made it political for so many people who had no interest in the matter to begin with.
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Guy I know delivers for Amazon. He has to compete for work on a bidding system. More than half the people delivering don't speak English and he struggles to get work while they seem to always have something. So it's something more than politics.

EDIT : fwiw, my grandparents came over from Europe and entered through Ellis Island around 1900. Did all the things you are required to do to become a citizen. They did it the right and legal way.
 
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