Sudo rant

What I do care about is that X11 survives, get fixes and upgrades.
Yeah, but that isn't the answer.
Sorry, I tend to be too literal sometimes, but what isn't the answer to what exactly?
I'd appreciate if you would care to be more specific about this, thanks.

ATM XLibre is only project that cares about that as well.
NetBSD has a better X implementation.
Re-implementation of freedesktop's X.Org; and it's obvious (at least to me, and looks like to many others) that they (freedesktop fellas) are doing their best to snuff it out for good. I don't see any future in that direction.

If you are proposing that NetBSD should fork they own X (or someone else, based on NetBSD code), I'll be glad to see that as well, as long X lives and gets fixes and upgrades. (If this is not what you are proposing, I apologize, as I said I tend to be too literal sometimes)
 
sidetone : Did you know that Che Guevarra was a doctor, and Castro was a lawyer? And that Che was the emotional firebrand, while Castro was actually the level-headed guy who talked Che out of some ill-advised reactionary moves? You'd find all that and more if you read the Wikipedia entry on Che...
What you won't find in Wikipedia is the fact that Ché Guevara put homosexuals in concentration camps. Most left-wing guerrillas (ELN, FMLN, Montoneros) were founded by Jesuit priests who followed Liberation Theology. See this article by a left-leaning Spanish paper: https://archive.ph/6Piqm

And then you have the phenomenon of left-wing fascism like Chavismo & Peronism. Look up Norberto Ceresole.
 
What you won't find in Wikipedia is the fact that Ché Guevara put homosexuals in concentration camps. Most left-wing guerrillas (ELN, FMLN, Montoneros) were founded by Jesuit priests who followed Liberation Theology. See this article by a left-leaning Spanish paper: https://archive.ph/6Piqm

And then you have the phenomenon of left-wing fascism like Chavismo & Peronism. Look up Norberto Ceresole.
I did take a look at the link you gave me. And I would advise to proceed with caution, esp. on bold and unsubstantiated claims like that. Even if it's not out of question that Che had a hand in such activities when they did happen in 1950s and 60s in Cuba, it's still in poor taste to make a sensational claim without explaining the connection.

I mean, not everybody on the Forums is that well-informed of history in different specific corners of this planet. FreeBSD and Internet are what connects us. I know I sound idealistic, but maybe keeping things simple is not a bad approach... 😅
 
I did take a look at the link you gave me. And I would advise to proceed with caution, esp. on bold and unsubstantiated claims like that. Even if it's not out of question that Che had a hand in such activities when they did happen in 1950s and 60s in Cuba, it's still in poor taste to make a sensational claim without explaining the connection.
It's not an unsubstantiated claim. It's well known fact in the Spanish-speaking world. Fidel Castro's niece (Raúl Castro's daughter) who later attempted to reverse these discrimination policies. Fidel Castro later attempted to take the blame:


 
I often follow these threads and think of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. They start a discussion about one thing and then, for an absurd reason, totally lose track--maybe Mac says, off-handedly, how he did an optical patdown of a patron, and they forget the subject entirely and go into how Mac can't successfully do such a thing--well, fans of the show know what I mean.
So, what are we talking about again? :)
 
I often follow these threads and think of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. They start a discussion about one thing and then, for an absurd reason, totally lose track--maybe Mac says, off-handedly, how he did an optical patdown of a patron, and they forget the subject entirely and go into how Mac can't successfully do such a thing--well, fans of the show know what I mean.
So, what are we talking about again? :)
I blame it on /. effect still having hold on us - older farts - but IDK what's excuse for the younger folks, though. 🤭

Maybe squirrels are to blame...
 
Naw.. they're all ADD, and it's all tiktok's fault and...err... <insert SImpson's meme of Old Man Yells at Cloud>
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Bacardi is not a Cuban brand - it's from Costa Rica. A Cuban brand would be Havana Club, BTW. Same story with cigars - I bet the cigar is not Cuban, either. I tried both brands of rum, BTW, and they are comparable in taste. Oh, and I drink my rum straight, no ice, and no Coke.
True all of that, but also Coca-Cola in not available in Cuba (okey, one can find it in the black markets, but still).

Cuba Libre is Coca-Cola + Rum (choose your poison of preference) + ice + lime, since at least 1902, and who forbid what for a trade after, has nothing to do with a drink itself.

Personally, I 'm more Whiskey person than Rum, but I also prefer my drinks neat.
 
Many may be aware that products between the US and Cuba are restricted. For a US citizen to travel to Cuba, I believe they must travel to Canada first, for instance. A lot of cigars in the US come from Dominican Republic, even though the same brands may also offer Cuban cigars to non Americans. There's a limit to how many Cuban cigars an American traveler can get, though, that's by them not traveling directly to Cuba. Cuban cigars are commercially not allowed in the US. Personally, it may be legal to bring in a few Cuban cigars for personal consumption, though not directly to the US. I believe you can declare them, but first after stopping in Canada. Europeans and Canadians can get Cuban liquor and cigars.

Everyone may be aware of why their cars are from the 50's. Their cars may be American on the outside, a lot of their motors and parts were replaced with Lada parts for repair and upkeep due to the trade embargo from the US. It's interesting how they can make a different model of motor fit their cars, when elsewhere it's a difficult concept.

What you won't find in Wikipedia is the fact that Ché Guevara put homosexuals in concentration camps.
I haven't heard of that, but it sounds like something they would do. Fidel and Che put a lot of political opponents in jail. I heard some were treated with sleep deprivation. Not sure if that's true.

He also did something in the opposite direction than that, Fidel made their society more accepting of different races. A lot of Cubans who didn't like that moved to Florida.

There were pluses and minuses to Cuban society under Fidel. Universal and affordable healthcare. Their doctors can do more with less. They can use makeshift tools and still have almost world class healthcare.

I guess we got here because of the implication of the word Libre in Software projects. And that people keep bringing up Xlibre. Libre suggests Spanish ideas of what has been described as freedom in terms that could describe Cuba. Not saying that is freedom, it's what they have called freedom. Freedom from American market imperialism, while at the same time dictatorship under the Castros. Or some combination of what Che represents.

But this is about sudo and maybe doas. Xlibre shouldn't have been brought up here, nor claims that Void Linux is unfair which Xlibre is the backstory to. Xlibre did that to themselves, they need to stop blaming others for reacting to it. It's like people who are from other projects or who like those projects pepper these forums for publicity for it. Then, we can't get off of it, when we answer questions of the basics behind it.

I guess since we discussed the word Libre and the Spanish connotations with Free and movements with that name which aren't necessary freedom movements. Libre isn't associated with sudo or doas though.

The word Libre has a lot to do with software, since there's LibreOffice and LibreSSL. Then, it's going to bring up connotations with Che, because it's a Spanish word associated with what he claimed to represent.
 
I guess we got here because of the implication of the word Libre in Software projects. And that people keep bringing up Xlibre. Libre suggests Spanish ideas of what has been described as freedom in terms that could describe Cuba. Not saying that is freedom, it's what they have called freedom. Freedom from American market imperialism, while at the same time dictatorship under the Castros. Or some combination of what Che represents.
Ché is nothing but a serial killer worse than Charles Manson. If you wear his t-shirt for shocking everyone, like Axl Rose & Phil Anselmo did, that I can understand. But lots of clueless youngsters wear it because he represents a "rebel" but haven't read the Congo Diary. It's a shame the CIA martyred him when he was young and handsome.

One of his quotes:
“Hatred as an element of the struggle; a relentless hatred of the enemy, impelling us over and beyond the natural limitations that man is heir to and transforming him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold killing machine."
 
I wondered why people idolized him. I guess he was perceived as being the "resistance." He may be associated with the word Libre, but I don't necessarily see it as freedom. I believe he's a symbol, but not one which represents freedom. He may be a symbol of resistance, but not all resistance is necessarily good or with good drivers behind it. I have to twist my thoughts to make it work as if he were a symbol for good.

My first reaction to the Congo Diary is if it has to do with Cuba's troops being sent to an African country for a war? I forgot which country Cuba got involved in.

At one time, Fidel said he wanted to nuke the US, but at a later time, he said he regretted feeling that way. At one time, he wanted to send doctors to New Orleans after the floods from the levy breaking due to hurricane Katrina.

Maybe Libre can also mean French resistance like against Germany during WWII. But perhaps that's livre.
 
Opendoas doesn't seem to honor it either.
Using security/opendoas, OpenDoas - github, did you use it with --with-timestamp enabled?
Persist/Timestamp/Timeout:
The persist feature is disabled by default and can be enabled with the --with-timestamp configure flag.

This feature is new and potentially dangerous, in the original doas, a kernel API is used to set and clear timeouts. This API is OpenBSD specific and no similar API is available on other operating systems.

As a workaround, the persist feature is implemented using timestamp files similar to sudo.

See the comment block in timestamp.c for an in-depth description on how timestamps are created and checked to be as safe as possible.
 
I believe they must travel to Canada first, for instance.
I once did some research on Expedia just a few years ago - Havana was accepting flights only from a few places on US East Coast, like JFK, Charlotte Douglas, Miami and Atlanta... By now that info is probably outdated. I'm a bit surprised about Canada, though - the flights would have to pass through US airspace, and I'd expect FAA to be really reluctant to approve flights between Cuba and Canada... or charge exhorbitant tolls that make the economics of those flights impractical.

Ché is nothing but a serial killer worse than Charles Manson.
So was Toshizo Hijikata of the Shinsengumi, a political faction in Japan that was actually opposed to opening Japanese borders for international trade in 1860s. These days, Shinsengumi (and their famous blue coats with white zigzag accents) are glorified in many animes. I mean, if you read the Wikipedia entry on HIjikata, you'll discover that the guy was a serial killer, with a nickname "Demon Vice Commander" (He was second-in-command at Shinsengumi). Shinsengumi was worshipped in some areas of Japan, and reviled in others.

I'm pretty sure that Wikipedia would welcome an edit to to their entry about Che - but somebody needs to write it well. Yeah, to some, Che was a symbol of freedom from foreign incursions on Cuba's sovereignty, but there's plenty of people who are not happy with what he did to accomplish that. I think that both good and bad stuff abot Che needs to be there - it's all an important part of history, and we do need to keep facts straight.
 
As for Hijikata, Gintama fans might have a different picture of him, (as well as other famous Shinsengumi folk). Though I wouldn't base my historical knowledge on anime meant to be funny. As astyle said, the Shinsengumi was revered by some, reviled by others.
There are a lot of things we look at historically, especially when a lot of stuff we take for granted today, wasn't available. And with the current US government attempting to rewrite history, who knows what the next generation will think. The current government for example, feels that museums focus too much on how bad slavery was.
 
I'm pretty sure that Wikipedia would welcome an edit to to their entry about Che - but somebody needs to write it well. Yeah, to some, Che was a symbol of freedom from foreign incursions on Cuba's sovereignty, but there's plenty of people who are not happy with what he did to accomplish that. I think that both good and bad stuff abot Che needs to be there - it's all an important part of history, and we do need to keep facts straight.
I don't get historical facts from an "encyclopedia" anyone can edit. Trying to fix the English version is a waste of time.

Ché wasn't Cuban. He was Argentinian and he killed more Cubans than any foreigner.
 
Ché wasn't Cuban. He was Argentinian and he killed more Cubans than any foreigner.
Think Wikipedia doesn't mention that much?

Do you seriously think that Che killed more Cubans than Uncle Sam? Well, I can always challenge you to do the research on numbers, to quote your sources, and then we can compare our analyses.

Also: If not Wikipedia, where else would the public at large get their information? There's kind of a reason that Wikipedia exists, has credibility, and is editable... :rolleyes:
 
This is really off topic. I know that Belgium in Congo was really bad. I can't speak for other aspects of Che, but helping get Belgium out of Congo was good. Che may have been an idealist to what he did, and it may have gotten Cubans killed for it.
Havana was accepting flights only from a few places on US East Coast, like JFK, Charlotte Douglas, Miami and Atlanta..
Probably since Obama may have opened some relations with Cuba.
 
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