So what's next after AI?

POSIX.1 said:
Is that your perception of Germany? Can you quote valid sources?
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What You say? That's fake-news, just like the non-existing washers as mentioned above? I'm not surprized: people are supposed to follow the google-doctrine that everything is happy and positive and likeable. Critisism is to be shunned, and whoever is unhappy gets termed an "extremist" by governmental newspeak. In eastern areas, where poverty is more widespread, these are already the majority; and the plan is now to prohibit the people and elect a new people.
So the railroad has fallen apart, medical service is unavailable to the elderly, and if you are not willing to have your behavioural data being sold to criminals by installing an "app" (given you can afford a smartphone), you pay twice the price for some food.
I don't need "sources", I need to survive.:oops:
 
PMc said:
Thanks, I am not surprized.I see lots of people who see life without a smartphone as utterly impossible; and being told that 60 years ago we did not have a washing machine, they consider that fake-news.


Lets make that clear: when I joined into building the Internet, back in 1988, I believed that we would make the world a better place for all. Specifically, I believed that marxism would be resolved once and for all - because the internet has no technically inherent discrimination between, say, a broadcast station and a receiver. I could not imagine that people would go to lengths in order to just rebuild that very discrimination by means of facebook, google, apple etc.

Now, I can't see Your location, but speaking of Germany, back then marxism was quite popular and well-known - just think of Red Army Fraction. ;)
And strangely, that was in a time of still strong economic growth and abundant prosperity, where almost nobody had to suffer and nobody needed to worry about their future. This in total contrast to nowadays, where people do indeed starve, poor people are squeezed to the utmost without mercy, even basic food is no longer affordable, and the elderly are driven out of their homes.
So, while I smiled about marxism in my youth, nowadays their predictions have come very much true, and we are now in an economical state much similar to that of early industrialization and it's recklessness.
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I'm living in Venezuela, so let's say I have a good perspective on what socialist/communist/Marxist ideas do.

Let's say I'm in the same position that many Polish, Czech, or Ukrainian citizens were in more than 70 years ago, and because of which they were among the poorest countries in Europe until they freed themselves from that yoke.

The idea of a more just world is beautiful, no one can deny it. But socialist/communist/Marxist ideas have NEVER led to that, and while capitalism isn't a rainbow world either, at least it gives you the opportunity for a better social mobility.
 
PMc said:
In eastern areas, where poverty is more widespread, these are already the majority; and the plan is now to prohibit the people and elect a new people.
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Which plan? Whose plan? Prohibit which people? Who are the "new people"?
Wasn't there recently an election in your country (Germany)?
 
what's next?
we could use current plot points (like Hollywood scriptwriting) to formulate a sort of trend chart. Then we could add a spanning tree of possibilities/probabilities and use an algorithm like A* with Manhattan distance to make a "crystal ball" program. But is that "crystall ball" POSIX compliant? LOL

if recent comments from Bill(ig) Gates (*cough* Epstein *cough*) are any indicator of a trend, then he predicts that personal computers will be obsolete...

interpret that however you like.

the other conversations stray too far off the track. Personally, i would like to continue studying computers and programming with the hopes of designing my own systems. I am just beginning but it keeps me busy. I do find it funny that TokTok influencers make more money than alot of the tech people that spoon feed us their unwanted software and services in the name of commerce. People like freedom and choice and there are other ways of profiting from this industry. I get used to the idea of not participating but that cannot be the answer with every aspect of life. I don't use cellular phones and i keep my work pc disconnected from the web. I will learn how to build my own systems before i give up computing. I give up too much already...
 
ArgentoSoma said:
I'm living in Venezuela, so let's say I have a good perspective on what socialist/communist/Marxist ideas do.

Let's say I'm in the same position that many Polish, Czech, or Ukrainian citizens were in more than 70 years ago, and because of which they were among the poorest countries in Europe until they freed themselves from that yoke.

The idea of a more just world is beautiful, no one can deny it. But socialist/communist/Marxist ideas have NEVER led to that, and while capitalism isn't a rainbow world either, at least it gives you the opportunity for a better social mobility.
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Thank You. I see... but there might be a crafted delusion in that. Do You know about the term manifest destiny?

It basically means that a certain people have the god-given(!) right to dispossess, enslave and kill other people.
And while it is said that this is a misguided idea from the 19th century, in fact it is continued to be enacted all over the world: speak Vietnam, speak Iraq, speak Afghanistan, speak eastern Europe, and so on.

So, while I might well agree that communism etc. does not provide viable solutions, I do also think that capitalism is the rotten carrott that is hold before your nose to have you keep running, for the benefit of others.

But, as I said before, this should have been discussed 50 years earlier. Now it is probably too late.
 
One more potential next big thing: microgravity manufacturing in orbit. Zero gravity allows the fabrication of novel chemicals, materials and pharmaceuticals that are not possible to manufacture economically on the earth's surface. This welsh company is one of the pioneers.

www.swansea.ac.uk

CISM and Space Forge deal to help pioneer gravity-defying tech

Swansea University and Space Forge, pioneers in space-based advanced materials manufacturing and return technology, have signed a major deal, making the company the first to be physically hosted in the Centre for Integrative Semiconductor Materials (CISM), where it will undertake cutting-edge...
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blackhole said:
... with the likes of non features such as secureboot, pushed as "bootloader security", which was in fact a cynical attempt to deter the installation of the "approved" or "certified" OS.
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Sorry, but secure boot and TPM are vitally needed on any portable computer (laptop etc.) that has important data on it, such as a corporate machine.

PMc said:
... but speaking of Germany, ... This in total contrast to nowadays, where people do indeed starve, ...
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I wonder what the starvation rate is in Germany. And compare it to the rate of death due to obesity in Germany, or to the starvation rate in the poorer 90% of the world.
 
POSIX.1 said:
What kind of problem do you have with elections in Germany? Can you just come clear?
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You could just send some food; that would help.
ralphbsz said:
I wonder what the starvation rate is in Germany. And compare it to the rate of death due to obesity in Germany, or to the starvation rate in the poorer 90% of the world.
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So what? Some have fourty € per month to get around, others have 10000. Former colleagues tell me they do not even bother to look at the price tags in the shops, they just buy what they like.
 
Beastie7 said:
Can you spell Singularity? I certainly wouldn't want chips any where inside of my body. I do see a market for them for people with disabilities however. Like, restoring bodily functions or human senses with something planted just under the skin maybe.
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Try having a live wire driven straight into the very organ that's responsible for your very sense of balance. Oh, and having an electrical current through that. Oh, and having your ear cut off like 3 times by a highly paid professional. And yes, that's a well-known, legitimate medical procedure.
POSIX.1 said:
Yes there are many good reasons for not liking the Tech-Bros, but they are neither "idiots" nor do they have an "IQ of a rat". They are intelligent people, but they have interests that can be considered as dangerous. There is far too much power allocated to this group, in terms of political influence and financial capabilities.

Want to disable the Tech-Bros et al.? Sit back and take a deep breath. Think about your personal capabilities.
  • A low-level approach is to not using their technologies and their services.
  • Strictly do not buy from them and do not work for them.
  • Rethink your consumer behavior and never vote them or their enablers into any administration.
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Tech bros are the next thing after MDs and PhDs, that's for sure. At least the PhDs and MDs are the ones who had the brains to properly connect smoking with long-term illness and quick, stinky death. Philip Morris just wanted everyone to enjoy life, right? 😏 :rolleyes:
 
Folks, you don't get the point.

I happened to meet a few former classmates recently. They have mostly grown up nicely and lived a proper and "good-situated" life as lawyers, teachers, medical doctors, et al. And apparently none of them has anything to do with IT.

And that is the first point You need to understand. The mainstream of people is not interested in computers.
So for now we have to consider two parts of them: those who already grew up with computers and view them as a natural commodity, and those who did not. The latter would in many cases encounter computers only in the form of a smartphone, because nowadays everybody needs to have a smartphone.

That means, the whole modern IT development, some 45 years from when the first businessmen started to use the network (remember Compuserve?) until now, is not known to them, either because they are too young or weren't interested.
Now that's your target, that's the people you need to make believe in you when you want to sell them your crap!

That whole development, which most people do not know much about, is cut in half roughly at the millenium change. The first half was building the network and making it powerful and versatile enough to be relied upon. And the second half was to make a commercial endeavour of it.

The second half was driven by the shops. Shops like google, amazon, netflix, facebook, etc. All of them entirely superfluous. All of them bringing in no new technology whatsoever - except scale. All of them driven by some graduate from american private elite universities. All of them harvesting not technology, but people: their users. And all of them together building out new oligarchy.

Normally, such an operation, enslaving the users in order to sell their data, reshaping the economy for that purpose, while utilizing taxpayer paid infrastructure, should lead to a public outcry. In this case, it doesn't, for two reasons: first, people don't know - you would need to understand computers in order to understand the heist, and second, public outcries are nowadays monopolized by the wokies, and we know wokies are stupid and do just what they are told.

Looking closer: the average Joe receives their e-mail with watzapp, and so he is thankful that watzapp reads all his personal messages in the process. And the average Jean gets their webpages from google, and so she is thankful that google provides the internet and sells her behaviour patters to the highest bidder.
None of them knows that any computer (or at least any berkeley unix) could do all these services just as well.

Now that is all fine so far, but the risk is, the scheme might slowly fall apart over some time. So we need a means to hold it together the way it is. And this is where the lies come in: the covid-lie, the climate-lie, and similar - all crafted for the simple purpose to induce fear into the people, lots of fear. Because people in fear are easily controlled; they will not ask, they will not research, they will be happy that somebody else takes control over them. Everybody knows this, it was extensively demonstrated throughout the "cold war", to the immense benefit of Northrop-Grumman, Lockheed, and the like.

Finally, lets have a look at the wokies: all the wokies agree that the civil utilization of nuclear power is bad, bad, bad - we should build windmills instead. And as well they agree that the military use of nuclear power goes without question: the nuclear first-strike against Russia is not only winable, it is imperative - at least as long as the correct gender suffixes are applied.

So, what's the next step in this theatre of madness, you ask? The mission is still the same: make eight billion NPCs all identical, so they can all be controlled by the same program, to maximise the profits with the least effort.

Thanks for reading.
 
I hope for a truly anonymous and decentralized cryptocurrency with a proof-of-work/stake based on useful computations and contribution to p2p storage and useful stuff. I'm not an expert on this subject, but I think there's some potential here.
 
I'm reminded of 1992, when I worked at Silicon Graphics, having a landline phone conversation with someone and I was trying to either contact someone or read something technical. He asked me, "Have you heard of the internet?". (Or possibly arpanet. Not sure.)
 
rbranco said:
I hope for a truly anonymous and decentralized cryptocurrency with a proof-of-work/stake based on useful computations and contribution to p2p storage and useful stuff.
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I believe that was the previous hype, wasn't it?

The approximate hype timeline :)

Social Media (2010) -> VR (2015) -> Crypto (2020) -> AI (2025) -> ? (2030)

drhowarddrfine said:
I'm reminded of 1992, when I worked at Silicon Graphics, having a landline phone conversation with someone and I was trying to either contact someone or read something technical. He asked me, "Have you heard of the internet?". (Or possibly arpanet. Not sure.)
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This internet malarkey will never hit off...
 
kpedersen said:
I believe that was the previous hype, wasn't it?

The approximate hype timeline :)

Social Media (2010) -> VR (2015) -> Crypto (2020) -> AI (2025) -> ? (2030)
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The hype was blockchain.

Cryptocurrencies got a bad rep because of:
- High energy use.
- Scams.
- Speculation.

All of the above can be fixed.
 
VR was being hyped way back in the early 90s, long before zuckerberg! I remember playing a demo of this company's interactive VR in Birmingham (the one in the uk, where ozzy osbourne and black sabbath come from) back around ... oh, maybe 1992? It was extremely cool at the time, I remember they had it all running on top-end amigas, I have a faint memory they might have been using transputers too. Nice to see they are still in business.

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Meta has entered into a landmark 20-year power purchase agreement (PPA) with Constellation Energy to procure the entire output of the Clinton Clean Energy Center, a nuclear power plant in Illinois.
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This is less than an hour from my house.
www.datacenterfrontier.com

Meta Inks New Long-Term Nuclear, Solar PPAs with Constellation and AES

Additionally, the Texas Legislature's $350 million grant program aims to position the state as a leader in advanced nuclear technologies, particularly focusing on SMRs.
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The foundation of Meta is a bit shaky. And it hits close to home for me. Literally. Lawsuits really can tarnish your brand. I think blockchain technology can be promising outside of the cryptocurrency hype. Git’s framework is decentralized and it has been around for ages.
 
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