Rant about French government

blackbird9 said:
I'm just a bit surprised they didn't choose one of the larger european distros, like Suse or even Ubuntu. Nixos seems to be quite a small outfit. But I wish them good luck, hopefully they will get some funding and support from the governments involved. It's always a healthy thing to have more options.
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Suse is on sale it seems. And even before they were not exactly German company. Similar with Ubuntu. Some consortium or what not is deciding i.e. BlackRock.
Suse is trying to shift towards Kubernetes with heir microOS.
They even ditched their best asset the YAST. Seems like they are not interested in endpoint devices.
 
Crivens said:
We could talk about politics all day, sitting around with something to drink. This ain't the place. Also, consider me having the short straw this weekend and I have to watch here and also watch my kids. That's not funny. But if someone has a suggestion for say, next weekend, we might get to sit around and exchange our views of world politics.
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How far drive from Denderleeuw Belgium ?
 
blackbird9 said:
I'm just a bit surprised they didn't choose one of the larger european distros, like Suse or even Ubuntu. Nixos seems to be quite a small outfit. But I wish them good luck, hopefully they will get some funding and support from the governments involved. It's always a healthy thing to have more options.
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There is an interesting story about U.S. West-Coast versus East-Cost , when it comes to the history of FreeBSD & Unix & Linux (eg SCO & Solaris)
 
Alain De Vos said:
How far drive from Denderleeuw Belgium ?
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You guys are welcome to come over here some time, and I will take you to some nice pubs in the New Forest. If you come in the autumn you can sample the damson beer. :-)
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DanielBowman said:
Suse is on sale it seems. And even before they were not exactly German company. Similar with Ubuntu. Some consortium or what not is deciding i.e. BlackRock.
Suse is trying to shift towards Kubernetes with heir microOS.
They even ditched their best asset the YAST. Seems like they are not interested in endpoint devices.
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SUSE is not for sale. It's a German company. MicroOS is openSUSE. SLE Micro is indeed used for containers. SLES will continue to support traditional workloads.
 
rbranco said:
SUSE is not for sale. It's a German company. MicroOS is openSUSE. SLE Micro is indeed used for containers. SLES will continue to support traditional workloads.
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Sorry. Must have misheard it then. Or the guy reported old news/speculations from March?
Alas it is offcially more of a Luxembourgh company....probably for tax purposes...I heard taxes in Germany are brutal.
 
blackbird9 said:
You guys are welcome to come over here some time, and I will take you to some nice pubs in the New Forest. If you come in the autumn you can sample the damson beer. :-)
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Very nice. If someone wonders in to the vicinity of the most magical European city of Prague. You are welcome - even lodging can be arranged for house trained folk.
10 hours of fuel efficient drive from Brussels by car. 4 hours to 2 days by plane, depending on the condition of work force in the Brussels airport or 15 hours and gazzllion of euros by train - 1 hour wait for cennecting train in Cologne and 4 hours taking bus from Nuremberg because Apache indians took out the rails or something?

FYI. On Monday TESLA FSD Supervised was certified to drive in Czech Republic. Belgium and Netherlands already have that. But through Germany or Poland or Austria you will have to pretend to hold the wheel.
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DanielBowman said:
I heard taxes in Germany are brutal.
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By necessity, because us street walking buggers are often the only ones being there to tax. Mercedes Benz, for example, pays less tax than the cleaning lady that works the corridors. When you add up all the "social safety abuse" for a year you arrive at a number that the tax evaders have stolen when many are still drunk from new year partys.
DanielBowman said:
the most magical European city of Prague
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I went to Prague only once by now, and it was sadly in the middle of the tourist season. So most memories are about streets so packed that you are more inclined to think of a football stadium than a magical city. When would be a good time, so the phone stick waving types are maybe in hibernation?
 
Crivens said:
By necessity, because us street walking buggers are often the only ones being there to tax. Mercedes Benz, for example, pays less tax than the cleaning lady that works the corridors. When you add up all the "social safety abuse" for a year you arrive at a number that the tax evaders have stolen when many are still drunk from new year partys.

I went to Prague only once by now, and it was sadly in the middle of the tourist season. So most memories are about streets so packed that you are more inclined to think of a football stadium than a magical city. When would be a good time, so the phone stick waving types are maybe in hibernation?
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As a long time gov employee I can assure you every euro of tax is worse than throwing it in to Baltic sea. Fish can't at least further hamper your productive ability by creating new rules requiring lawyers or giving it to their "friends" and/or voters - either directly or through Mercedes Benz employing them on obsolete factory line.

For emptied Prague you have to wait for another pandemic.
At night it is OK and magical. Or anytime outside of summer time is manageable, I think.
Though I would say the phone stick forest is only in like 2 streets and one bridge. There is plenty of views and streets without tourists which are even more magical because of that.

Beer is still cheaper than water. Pickpockets are less of a problem somehow - people even wear their backpacks on their backs in public transport....to my disdain (I was taught good manners dictate to sling it off there). And even though junkies are quite more prevalent, they are not aggressive and other usual suspects, "youth" and "new Germans" are a rarity - so a lonely girl can walk around at night.
Alcohol is a problem only with tourists and Ukrainian refugees. It is considered a shame here not be able to walk yourself home from pub.

It is not well known but Czechs have relatively (on par with better states in USA bar open carry states) good gun laws. Criminals have to count that in and tourists / feudal Japanese peasants can experience shooting range - there are like 3 in Prague alone.
 
If the EU operates like everybody else I am confident money or other compensation is influencing the choice.

I have watched engineering decisions being made by the guy who signs the check, not the engineer or the experienced user.
 
bgavin said:
If the EU operates like everybody else I am confident money or other compensation is influencing the choice.

I have watched engineering decisions being made by the guy who signs the check, not the engineer or the experienced user.
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Very important bureau (don't want to dox myself). They fired IT chief for something...probably not sharing the spoils with the right people.
Next day and I mean literally next morning, he came in with visitor's badge to sign contract for company he awarded it just weeks prior.

Having said that. Engineers tend to forget efficiency is not just about watts and bandwith.
But the trouble with modern CEOs is they have very short term time preference.

Ultimately I blame the system of money creation. Besides being a scam (paper out, wealth in + interest OR bailout) or rather the scam of century.
It's only seeming positive of enough cheap credit results in Brains being wasted on BS projects and quick money grabs.
Which (the money speed light velocity) has connotations in how the companies are (mis)managed. And can be traced to the stagnation of tech. No new breakthrough tech was invented after the 70's. UNIX, nuclear, laser, DNA, maglev, Concorde and even the Ai is just iteration on already existing research from 70's.

You can blame the hippie spoiled boomers for the stagnation but I am telling you it is how the money is created is to blame. People adapt to that.
 
Crivens
That is the case in France: billionaires don't pay taxes—or pay next to nothing compared to ordinary people. Any sign of strong winds in the short term? (I'm talking about the weather, obviously.) :cool:
 
fjdlr said:
Crivens
That is the case in France: billionaires don't pay taxes—or pay next to nothing compared to ordinary people. Any sign of strong winds in the short term? (I'm talking about the weather, obviously.) :cool:
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If he made and makes his money by producing something, not just shuffling bribes or baiting people in to hazard, I do not care he pays no taxes - he created real wealth in the world and is net positive.
Can't say that about bureaucrats.

Funny how we supposedly tax stuff we want less off (like alcohol or tobacco) and then we tax income and even wages.
 
DanielBowman
My opinion is that "their" riches are the fruit of our work They only capture it
And a significant "layer" of these bureaucrats Work to keep this archaic system that is causing the visible destruction of species on the planet (Among other misdeeds)
But we don't see the "weather" through the same prism
 
fjdlr said:
DanielBowman
My opinion is that "their" riches are the fruit of our work They only capture it
And a significant "layer" of these bureaucrats Work to keep this archaic system that is causing the visible destruction of species on the planet (Among other misdeeds)
But we don't see the "weather" through the same prism
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I am happy for the entrepreneurs to take the initial risk and time to set it up, provide me with tools, compensate me for my time/skill and then enjoy whatever profits they achieve for organizing bringing useful stuff in to the world.
I have no skills or inclinations to do that instead of them. Yeah we all did it, even our dead ancestors played part, but for practical purposes no need to be greedy and claim $ above what was negotiated as compensation.
Any other setup is hardly "fair" or producing results.

Alas if they make their money by fraud or baiting fellow humans in to hazard, they should not be merely taxed more - they should be flogged, stripped of titles and all wealth and possibly shot out of airlock.

btw all species are dependent for their ultimate survival on our rather brisk tech development. Our planet can be wiped out any time by some event which already happened million years ago and certainly will die one day with our Sun. The window might not be large. Western civilization (including NEast Asia) is dying out rather quickly and the rest of humanity does not show signs of catching up.
 
DanielBowman said:
I am happy for the entrepreneurs to take the initial risk and time to set it up, provide me with tools, compensate me for my time/skill and then enjoy whatever profits they achieve for organizing bringing useful stuff in to the world.
I have no skills or inclinations to do that instead of them. Yeah we all did it, even our dead ancestors played part, but for practical purposes no need to be greedy and claim $ above what was negotiated as compensation.
Any other setup is hardly "fair" or producing results.

Alas if they make their money by fraud or baiting fellow humans in to hazard, they should not be merely taxed more - they should be flogged, stripped of titles and all wealth and possibly shot out of airlock.

btw all species are dependent for their ultimate survival on our rather brisk tech development. Our planet can be wiped out any time by some event which already happened million years ago and certainly will die one day with our Sun. The window might not be large. Western civilization (including NEast Asia) is dying out rather quickly and the rest of humanity does not show signs of catching up.
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Indeed, we have an absolutely opposite point of view Milton Friedman would be delighted to read you
The current major extinction of species in progress (sixth), has a precise and proven cause The current economic system
 
fjdlr said:
Indeed, we have an absolutely opposite point of view Milton Friedman would be delighted to read you
The current major extinction of species in progress (sixth), has a precise and proven cause The current economic system
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Current Economic system as bad as it is, will not be improved by taxing the productive citizens.
But what I noticed, the motivation to do that has more to do with tearing the system down than anything else. Same goes for mass immigration - humanitarian obfuscation shielding the tactic to disrupt the system by social and economic strain by comrades from so callled Global South.
What comes after are usually some nonsense idealistic setups on paper in conflict with even basic laws of nature, let alone human psyche i.e. suited only for hive insects - mindless, sterile and subservient to queen.

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DanielBowman said:
Current Economic system as bad as it is, will not be improved by taxing the productive citizens.
But what I noticed, the motivation to do that has more to do with tearing the system down than anything else. Same goes for mass immigration - humanitarian obfuscation shielding the tactic to disrupt the system by social and economic strain by comrades from so callled Global South.
What comes after are usually some nonsense idealistic setups on paper in conflict with even basic laws of nature, let alone human psyche i.e. suited only for hive insects - mindless, sterile and subservient to queen.

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Well, we had better end this exchange.
Our points of view differ.
Your arguments demonstrate that you are perfectly integrated into the dominant system.
Your "arguments" rely solely on childish attacks.
They lack any real substance.
The system is proud of you.
If you have seen the now rather old film *Brazil*, you seem to be in perfect harmony with the dominant system.
It will never come to trouble you.
Brazil
 
fjdlr said:
Well, we had better end this exchange.
Our points of view differ.
Your arguments demonstrate that you are perfectly integrated into the dominant system.
Your "arguments" rely solely on childish attacks.
They lack any real substance.
The system is proud of you.
If you have seen the now rather old film *Brazil*, you seem to be in perfect harmony with the dominant system.
It will never come to trouble you.
Brazil
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Is it ironic post about childish attack full of childish attacks?
If we are going to talk about me:
I am quite outside of the Overtone window of current system - Parasitic universal suffrage Oligarchy propped up by the scam of fractional reserve central banking cartel where ownership-responsibility is hiding behind another government FIAT of corporation concept, which for reasons of not losing power is turning us in to Brasil - actual, not movie.

You praise the one thing also bad about system, which upholds it - taxing the productive people - but want to tear it all down and replace it with WHAT, Mr. substance ????. Proving my point about motivation for these taxation policies.
"from everybody according to his ability to anybody according to his need" just does not work, is against laws of thermodynamics and totally wrecks human motivation and fairness, making everyone miserable but few on top - but they are miserable by nature anyway.
Or is something else you seem fit to organize our economic activity? Tell me more.



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