Prove your innocence

fernandel said:
Watch and enjoy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borat
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Watch and enjoy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons :)
It is no the best idea to draw an analogy between real people and comedian films about them.
Also, in that movie, Borat is Kazakh, and not Russian, and it is a very big difference.
Russians are more like Europeans in their appearance mostly, you won't notice very big difference
if you'll be traveling around Russia-Ukraine-Poland-Germany-France... Except roads :)
Roads are much better in EU.

P.S. I'm not Russian ;)
 
CoTones said:
Seven years ago...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-poll-education-odd-idUSTRE71A4OI20110211
"In a survey released this week, 32 percent of Russians believed the Earth was the center of the Solar system; 55 percent that all radioactivity is man-made; and 29 percent that the first humans lived when dinosaurs still roamed the Earth. "

For High Tech you need smart and well educated people.
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Three years ago...

1 in 4 Americans Apparently Unaware the Earth Orbits the Sun

I don't know how many Russian people you know personally, but I have already expressed my opinion of them as a people in length.

P.S. I'm not one of the four. :)
 
Datapanic said:
I know a lot of Russians and speak russian because I'm married to one.
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Добрый вечер! ;)

This topic should be renamed into "Prove that you are not Russian" :D

BTW, comrades, as far as I know, FreeBSD is popular among Russian sysadmins.
 
ILUXA said:
Watch and enjoy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons :)
It is no the best idea to draw an analogy between real people and comedian films about them.
Also, in that movie, Borat is Kazakh, and not Russian, and it is a very big difference.
Russians are more like Europeans in their appearance mostly, you won't notice very big difference
if you'll be traveling around Russia-Ukraine-Poland-Germany-France... Except roads :)
Roads are much better in EU.

P.S. I'm not Russian ;)
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I am not Russian too but...
I know about Borat but... it was not story about Kazakh but about Americans.
 
Lets get this back on topic.
I am dismayed that a company is being treated this way without the benefit of due rights.

The US Government was not forced to buy this product. They chose to buy it.

Has McAfee ever had its offices raided or its researchers questioned outside the workplace.

If all this is true then why is there not criminal charges?
 
Phishfry said:
Lets get this back on topic.
I am dismayed that a company is being treated this way without the benefit of due rights.

The US Government was not forced to buy this product. They chose to buy it. Has McAfee ever had its offices raided or its researchers questioned outside the workplace. If all this is true then why is there not criminal charges?
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I read that Kaspersky made a transmission to congress prior to the congressional hearing. They defended themselves by describing their own post-incident analysis, based on what their servers had collected. They wrote that the individual's machine had been used to download a cracked copy of MS Office, along with a key-gen utility (to provide a usable key) - and that the key-gen util had a trojan. I'm not saying this is true, but it was in the transmittal and/or blog post on Kaspersky's site.

Subsequently (according to the transmittal) - the AV software alerted the user of the malware, and the individual started a full scan. The scan found the malware and removed it, but also found the "other stuff" involved in the case, because it presented as suspicious. So, that's their story, basically that the AV was doing what it was supposed to do, and that the uploading of suspicious code is part of any AV software's procedure.

That's scary to me, since it's tough for me to feel comfortable about any sort of upload. I guess that's why I run FreeBSD and no AV LOL.

Kaspersky's response is based on this blog post from their site: https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/internal-investigation-preliminary-results/19894/
 
ronaldlees said:
So, that's their story, basically that the AV was doing what it was supposed to do, and that the uploading of suspicious code is part of any AV software's procedure.

That's scary to me, since it's tough for me to feel comfortable about any sort of upload.
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That appears to be opt-in:

The incident where the new Equation samples were detected used our line of products for home users, with KSN enabled and automatic sample submission of new and unknown malware turned on.
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Personally, in the short time I tried out Windows10 and the free version of Kaspersky, I was more troubled with the possibility of Windows parsing files than Kaspersky.

From the last article:

Skeptics demand pure evidence, which the U.S. government cannot provide without revealing highly valuable details about how the information was obtained.

“There’s no good way to do it is the problem,” Aitel said. “It’s not like there’s been a magical way where you can both show the evidence and protect sources and methods.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hard-trust-u-s-russias-alleged-kaspersky-espionage-134308101.html
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This is the part that gets me. If they're claiming it's parsing for keywords like “top secret” and “classified”, how difficult would it be to just show the code they're using to do it?
 
I see that most recent articles about this are attributing the individual described in the Kaspersky explanation as "a U.S. national" - rather than an "agent" - so, the exact source is apparently unclear, and may not (necessarily) be any U.S. gov agent.
 
Trihexagonal said:
That appears to be opt-in:

Personally, in the short time I tried out Windows10 and the free version of Kaspersky, I was more troubled with the possibility of Windows parsing files than Kaspersky.
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That reminds me of a forum converation I had with a Chinese national. He was having trouble getting internet access using Linux, because all of the Chinese ISP operators assume Windows, and the official (read "monitoring" function here) software for government compliance was made to work only with Windows. I can't believe that Chinese authorities would allow the use of Windows without the source code, yet am a little surprised there are heretofore no "revelations".

I could imagine that Linux users in CN land have to be under the radar.
 
We all know the extent of spying on everybody by NSA. Why Russian special services would be different? Disclaimer: I was born and raised in the good old Soviet Union.
 
Мне больше нравится Агата Кристи :)
 
I don't seriously believe that any US Airgapped or Tempest systems had Kaspersky Anti Virus running.
I do wonder if the sloppy contractor was from Booz Allen Hamilton as well. I would think at some point they would pull their contracts.
Can you imagine a third person walking out with some serious goods in such a short span.
The guards at my workplace do a better job at finding outgoing contraband then the government.
How do they keep allowing USB drives? We must leave our cellphones and personal gear in lockers at the gate.

I got to tell you I read the Kaspersky explanation and it makes me even more weary.
So a virus scanner sends back bad snippets for further review. Understood. But I thought that would be anonymous.
Suddenly the Kaspersky virus scanning people know who (a un-named contractor) turned off their home PC scanner to run a Windows Office keygen.
The explanation makes me realize that what we are reading is fiction. Not even close to fact.
 
Phishfry said:
I got to tell you I read the Kaspersky explanation and it makes me even more weary.
So a virus scanner sends back bad snippets for further review. Understood. But I thought that would be anonymous.
Suddenly the Kaspersky virus scanning people know who (a un-named contractor) turned off their home PC scanner to run a Windows Office keygen.
The explanation makes me realize that what we are reading is fiction. Not even close to fact.
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Their explanation did seem unbelievably detailed...
 
ILUXA said:
Russians are more like Europeans in their appearance mostly, you won't notice very big difference
if you'll be traveling around Russia-Ukraine-Poland-Germany-France... Except roads :)
Roads are much better in EU.
P.S. I'm not Russian ;)
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Mentality is wayyyyy different though. Inferiority and superiority complexes deep down all mixed up with "their version of history" which present day Russian media re-inforces, cause whole lot of "taboo-topics" for conversations. Better be careful or there'd be blood on the walls, literally.
My wife and her relatives are Russian.
 
aht0 said:
Inferiority and superiority complexes deep down all mixed up with "their version of history" which present day Russian media re-inforces, cause whole lot of "taboo-topics" for conversations. Better be careful or there'd be blood on the walls, literally.
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It's not "Russians", it's Putin fanatics and "TV fans".
There are a lot of Russians that are quite liberal in their points of view.
 
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