Milky Way stars are not orbiting the black hole Sagittarius A*

Milky Way stars are not orbiting the black hole Sagittarius A* in the center of the Milky Way galaxy.​


Betcha you didn't know this.

This is the biggest misconception in astronomy.

What's going on then? Why are the stars moving in circles around the central black hole?

Spoiler alert:


In the Solar system planets orbit the Sun because the Sun is 99.86% of the system's mass. That concentrates gravity in one single central point.

For the Milky Way, the opposite is true: Sagittarius A* accounts for less than 0.0003% of the galaxy's total mass. The black hole only dominates the gravity of stars within its immediate neighborhood—roughly the inner few light-years.

What are stars actually orbiting?

Stars orbit the combined center of mass (barycenter) of all the matter inside their orbit.

As our Sun orbits the galaxy every ~230 million years, it isn't being pulled by Sagittarius A*. Instead, it is being pulled by the collective gravity of tens of billions of stars, interstellar gas clouds, and dark matter located between us and the center of the galaxy.

If you vanish Sagittarius A* from existence in an instant, stars like our Sun would not notice any gravitational change and would continue on their exact same path around the galaxy. Only the handful of "S-stars" whipped around in tight, immediate orbits around the black hole would fly off into deep space.
 
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In the Solar system planets orbit the Sun because the Sun is 99.86% of the system's mass. That concentrates gravity in one single central point.
Fun fact, most of the remaining mass is Jupiter. We're literally less than a speck in comparison.
 
Even more fun fact, the COG for the sun-jupiter combo is outside the sun. So the Jupiter does not orbit the sun technically.
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Yes, Jupiter is so massive that we don't even orbit the Sun at times but a point on the surface of the sun. It shifts the barycenter by an entire radius of the Sun or something. And it's not just technically, it results in our planet receiving several percent more and less of the solar radiation depending on the position in orbit.
 
So the Jupiter does not orbit the sun technically.
Neither do we. Even with that small amount of mass the Earth still exerts a gravitational pull on the sun (gravity works both ways). It's a tiny bit but it still makes the sun wobble.
 
Here's my contribution to this Astronomy thread.

Crumb 1987: Horns: In Universe 1,000,004, Earth has planet-sized bull-like horns, volition, and a tendency to charge at the Moon, which shows several alarming goring wounds. Since humanity became advanced enough, it’s managed to keep the beast continuously sedated, to which developed nations allocate 10% of their budget.
 
What's the misconception? Gravity and the orbital plane? You sound boarded up like plasma physics.
 
[...] Earth still exerts a gravitational pull on the sun (gravity works both ways).
I find this analogy "better" and more fascinating: according to Einstein's Theory of General Relativity, gravity isn't a force pulling objects with mass, but rather something warping space-time. Just as someone walking in a straight line across Earth eventually returns to their starting point, without noticing any curve of their paths, the Earth actually moves in a straight line through space-time, and it (hopefully) returns to its starting point. The space-time of our solar system is curved, under the effect of the mass of all bodies. We follow straight-line in spaces warped by gravity. The same is true for the light, that has no mass.

When you enter the event horizon of a black-hole, you have still a lot of freedom in movements, but the warp of space and time forms a cone towards the center of the black-hole. So you can follow all the path you want, like when you move on Earth, but you will notice that you return to the same point after a walk, more often, until the day that there is only one point.
 
Who cares about astronomy? I have a PhD in AstroLOGY.
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We can disagree on if the Earth is flat.
But we must acknowledge most "stuff" moves in a plane.
Be it a bit below or above...
A more intersting question is the speed of stars on the outer edge... And why don't they like F = 1/r*r
 
We can disagree on if the Earth is flat.
But we must acknowledge most "stuff" moves in a plane.
Be it a bit below or above...
A more intersting question is the speed of stars on the outer edge... And why don't they like F = 1/r*r
The most inner stars are real fast but spiral arms suggest some kind of interaction apart from gravity. Everything should divide without a visible structure, if you ask me, but it's a bit fluid-like.
 
But can we a bit specific,
So start by Newton law Force inverse distance sqauerd.
And now all stars about our large spiral arm, dont even follow this rule.
They say force inverse distance
Conclusuion , not even our small Galaxy we are unable to explain.
 
I'll dare to say more. We're in good hands. US Space Force is the most astrologically competent, most astrologically forward-looking organization.
 
Brian May of Queen https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/new...-doctorate-33-years-late-then-nasa-called-him
Brian must truly be one of the world's greatest rock guitarists...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ

Seems he's not the only one https://festivaltopia.com/10-musicians-who-were-also-brilliant-scientists-1/
Brian Cox on the keyboards on 'top of the pops'... wow, this seems like a different age, now...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcd3fwOX9jE

And I remembered Jim Allison plays in a blues band, he is a pioneer of immunotherapy for cancer treatment (nobel prize). https://www.mdanderson.org/publicat...r-innovators-band-together-to-make-music.html
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZeyCIkSQY

Now I want to see atax1a live rave techno synth performance, in coyote costume 😁
 
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