It depends on whether you are mainly looking for privacy or security. Which of the two do you think is more important or are they equally important?
There are some interesting browsers that unfortunately won't be available on OpenBSD.
Fast and Private Web Browser
Waterfox is the privacy-focused web browser engineered to give you speed, control, and peace of mind on the internet.www.waterfox.net
Firefox Focus: The privacy browser
Firefox Focus is your dedicated privacy browser with automatic tracking protection.www.mozilla.org
The browser that puts you first | Brave
The Brave browser is a fast, private and secure web browser for PC, Mac and mobile. Download now to enjoy a faster ad-free browsing experience that saves data and battery life by blocking tracking software.brave.com
Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser
It’s a web browser. But fun. It comes with a bunch of clever features built-in. It’s super flexible and does not track you. Get the Vivaldi browser for desktop, mobile, and your car!vivaldi.com
Opera Web Browser | Faster, Safer, Smarter | Opera
Faster, safer and smarter than default browsers. Fully-featured for privacy, security, and so much more. Get the faster, better Opera browser for free.www.opera.com
The above options mainly focus on privacy, ad blocking and tracker blocking.
What should work perfectly is that you use Chromium with uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger.
Also good for privacy is using Tor optimally in combination with a VPN. But for me Tor is really slow and annoying to use and many things don't work optimally if you set a higher security profile in Tor because many content is blocked.
Pale Moon does not contain suspicious privacy-invading software and extensions, it is run by a privacy-oriented non-profit organization and it has robust security.
The Pale Moon Project homepage
Pale Moon is an Open Source, Mozilla-derived web browser available for Microsoft Windows and Linux, focusing on efficiency and ease of use.www.palemoon.orgFreshPorts -- www/palemoon: Open-source web browser
Pale Moon(TM) offers you a browsing experience in a browser completely built from its own, independently developed source that has been forked off from Firefox/Mozilla code a number of years ago, with carefully selected features and optimizations to improve the browser's stability and user...www.freshports.org
If you want security, Firefox is fine.
Firefox vs Google Chrome
Read our comparison of Firefox and Chrome browsers on features, privacy, and ease-of-use.www.mozilla.org
Something that might be safe is the Nyxt browser. Since very few people use it, very few exploits will be developed for it.
The browser is written almost entirely in Common Lisp, and 97% of programmers who develop exploits know 0.000% of Common Lisp.
In the past, people have successfully installed Nyxt on FreeBSD.
You then get something similar to very high security through obscurity.
You have to decide for yourself. It seems to me that they are less secure than other browsers.
www.reddit.com
avoidthehack.com
news.ycombinator.com
github.com
github.com
github.com
I may be going to buy a new CPU today or tomorrow but I'm actually thinking about the i5-12600KF.So Voltaire did you receive your 13th gen CPU? Is it working well for you?
Also, anybody successfully using the iGPU of his 13th gen CPU?
I think the underlying architecture is 99.9% the same for Alder Lake and Raptor Lake.Thanks for letting me know. So perhaps I might be the first to report something on Raptor Lake here on the forum in the future, probably CPU will work just fine. For the iGPU I have found out drm-5.17 is needed, which has not landed yet but there is a WIP.
It should work just fine. Except for the graphics. I do not think it is supported yet. My 12700K has been working fine on all cores since 13.2 came out.I think the underlying architecture is 99.9% the same for Alder Lake and Raptor Lake.
We've known for a while that Intel would reuse its Alder Lake CPU architecture with some of its latest 13th Gen non-K Raptor Lake processors to improve yields and reduce waste. In the case of the i5-13400F, Intel accomplished this strategy by re-purposing i9-12900/12900K dies into i5-13400 CPUs by disabling some of the P-cores and the CPU cache.Raptor and Alder Lake Flavors of Intel's Core i5-13400F Perform About the Same
Raptor Lake isn't fasterwww.tomshardware.com
HWCooling says that virtually all retail i5-13400Fs are the Alder Lake version, while the Raptor Lake models are found in the OEM market.
Both flavors of the i5-13400F were tested in several CPU benchmarks, including Cinebench R23, FLAC, and F1 2020. The chips were neck and neck with each other in nearly all benchmark tests, with a maximum performance delta of 5%. In Cinebench R23, for example, the Raptor Lake i5-13400F scored 16,131 points in the multi-core test, while the Alder Lake version scored 16,038 points — a 0.6% difference in score.
I ordered the Intel i5-12600KF yesterday and I should get it on Thursday or Friday.
Will it work fine on FreeBSD 13.2 or is it worth upgrading to version 14?
The Intel i5-12600KF does not have integrated graphics. When you see the word K at the end of an Intel CPU's name, it means it has overclocking support.
I can't answer for that. I am on FreeBSD14-STABLE and have undervolted my cpu and overclocked it to 5.4mhz on the P-cores (E-cores (4.2). So my system is not a stock one. But running cool (under 60 degrees celcius at all times) and stable. But I have run the test on it. Hope it is of some use for youThe Intel i5-12600KF does not have integrated graphics. When you see the word K at the end of an Intel CPU's name, it means it has overclocking support.
The F means the CPU does not have integrated graphics.
I'm going to keep using a Nvidia GPU, and in a few months I might buy a new AMD GPU so that this system is (completely) up-to-date.
I would like to ask, what result do you get with the 12700K in WebXPRT 4 if you use FreeBSD 13.2 and Firefox 118?
PT - WebXPRT
WebXPRT is a browser benchmark that compares the performance of almost any web-enabled device.www.principledtechnologies.com
| Workload | ms | Variation(%) |
|---|---|---|
| Photo Enhancement | 380 | +/- 0.92 |
| Organize Album using AI | 1788 | +/- 4.37 |
| Stock Option Pricing | 98 | +/- 1.18 |
| Encrypt Notes and OCR Scan | 1174 | +/- 0.7 |
| Sales Graphs | 308 | +/- 4.29 |
| Online Homework | 1317 | +/- 3.19 |
I can't answer for that. I am on FreeBSD14-STABLE and have undervolted my cpu and overclocked it to 5.4mhz on the P-cores (E-cores (4.2). So my system is not a stock one. But running cool (under 60 degrees celcius at all times) and stable. But I have run the test on it. Hope it is of some use for you
It is very useful
I currently have an Intel i3-3240 and it scores around 128 with Firefox on FreeBSD, which is about exactly as fast as Clear Linux and faster than I can score with windows or other Linux systems.I had a some more tabs open in the browser. Around 15. So the browser did not have the machine alone. When compiling big packages. I have run the test again. A similar result 227. My system is compiled and optimized for alderlake (both sytem and packages. But FreeBSD is not optimized for balancing P and E cores. Windows and Linux are. But I am sure it will improve over timeIt is very useful
My impression is that Firefox scales nicely even with faster CPUs as the power of the CPU increases, e.g. with the R5 PRO 3400G I get a score of exactly 161 with Firefox and Clear Linux.
I had thought you would score around 330 based on these (old) results:
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What you sometimes see is that overclocking can have a negative impact. It could also be that you're using very slow RAM.
Maybe you are using Firefox extensions that have a negative impact. Or maybe during the test you had your PC doing other tasks.
Either FreeBSD is still very poorly optimized for Alder Lake.
If you have time you can see if you score higher or lower with Chromium.
In a few days I will also have an Alder Lake CPU and then I will be able to see exactly whether FreeBSD already performs decently with these CPUs or not.
I had a some more tabs open in the browser. Around 15. So the browser did not have the machine alone. When compiling big packages. I have run the test again. A similar result 227. My system is compiled and optimized for alderlake (both sytem and packages. But FreeBSD is not optimized for balancing P and E cores. Windows and Linux are. But I am sure it will improve over time
What I get from this is that if/when FreeBSD gets its scheduling optimized for hybrid architectures, it should be depending on instructions used. If all cores are utilized use whatever it wants to. But if P-cores are vacant, move processes that uses VNNI or AVX2 (maybe AVX as well ???) to those from the E-cores. Powersaving might benefit from moving some processes (without VNNI/AVX2) not fully using P-cores to the E-cores.
For me I would choose speed over efficiency. Otherwise I could downclock my cpu, or disable turbo mode. But efficeincy/energy consumption I think the scheduling should be going both ways, so processes not utilizing a lot of the P-cores capacity should be using E-cores. But it has noting to do with foreground/background processes as stated on windows. It is just about optimizing the use of CPU resources. And the current state on FreeBSD is just fine.
For me I would choose speed over efficiency. Otherwise I could downclock my cpu, or disable turbo mode. But efficeincy/energy consumption I think the scheduling should be going both ways, so processes not utilizing a lot of the P-cores capacity should be using E-cores. But it has noting to do with foreground/background processes as stated on windows. It is just about optimizing the use of CPU resources. And the current state on FreeBSD is just fine.
) said my opinion what I could read out of the pdf you attached about the situation on Linux.330/227=1.454
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