i am looking for a AI subscription sub 20$ with good limits

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gergeskirolos59

same as title , any suggestions?
claude limits are bad , gpt limits are little nice but still not good at all
kimi limits are also not that good
ollama cloud is the same
github bills by api pricing , not usage pool same as ollama cloud , very bad deal



so i do not know what else i can try
 
Preamble:
"Is this an AI forum?" I guess it is a little bit yes.
Besides: this is OFF-TOPIC, for goodness sake! Let the kids talk about whatever they want.

Response:
I don't use AI as an API to generate code, so I can't help. I use ChatGPT plus, whith costs $20/month and includes a lot of stuff, in my opinion. I think it also includes some API use, but I'm not sure.
 
Crivens said:
Certainly not. It may contain AI, some AI slop which needs to be tolerated, but it is by no means "an AI forum".

Whatever? Certainly not.
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"Certainly not" means, I hope, not about what the rules of the forums don't allow. Anything else should be allowed or you should appropriately change the rules of the forums. Arbitrariness is a very ugly thing.
 
AlfredoLlaquet said:
"Certainly not" means, I hope, not about what the rules of the forums don't allow. Anything else should be allowed or you should appropriately change the rules of the forums. Arbitrariness is a very ugly thing.
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We would assume you use your common decency here as well. If someone feels the urge to talk about things that warrant a 4AM no-knock visit, get help. But don't try to air your thoughts about everything here. This is not reddit, and it certainly ain't 4chan. Just consider we show your postings to your dear old mum/granny, yes?
 
Crivens said:
We would assume you use your common decency here as well. If someone feels the urge to talk about things that warrant a 4AM no-knock visit, get help. But don't try to air your thoughts about everything here. This is not reddit, and it certainly ain't 4chan. Just consider we show your postings to your dear old mum/granny, yes?
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That is for sure a personal attack in very bad taste. I won't respond to it because you can ban me without good reason and I like many of the users here.
 
well , so should i remove this post? , not AI forum but in off topic , i guess it is ok to ask about it



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I subscribed to OpenCode briefly ($5 for the first month) and was ok with it. I say ok, because if you have a full-time job and do this as a hobby, you are unlikely to hit the limits even if you use the expensive models. If this were your full-time job, then you could easily hit the limits.

I am using completely the free tier of everything (this is what I have working thus far):
devin
kiro
copilot
openhands
opencode
codex
cursor
antigravity
jules
aider (openrouter)
cline
kilo
grok
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I have my own 'router' which routes to the providers that reset daily and burns through them first, followed by weekly, and monthly. The best performers for me were:
devin, opencode, antigravity, jules

codex, cursor, and claude perform well, but have substantially lower limits (for the free tier).

I have just started using cline and kilo and they seem to be on par with devin, but I don't have much experience.

my experience with grok free was about nearly identical to when I first started with AI in 2024, their free models are terrible. But, I have only used it about 2x, so perhaps I need to try more to prove that wrong?

That said, I feel that the opencode big pickle model outperformed qwen 3 max and qwen 3 plus and I paid for qwen ... Opencode big pickle has generous free limits and I generally don't hit them. But, the thing is, you have absolutely no idea when you will hit the limit.

Eh, the problem now becomes, how do you validate that what AI generated was correct or useful? That is where I spend most of my time these days. I have pipelines, but still, the human is the bottleneck.
 
I've became quite fond (and impressed) with the combination of both Copilot (365) as well as GitHub Copilot. Both can be used for free but obviously you'll get better results with a subscription. I've had a Microsoft 365 Personal subscription for quite a long time already, but only recently started to experiment with Copilot. As for GitHub: I got myself a separate Pro subscription for E 10,-/month.

Here's the thing: GitHub Copilot is all about coding and applying different solutions, whereas Copilot (365) is basically a general chatbot with a main focus on Microsoft Office. However, said chatbot also knows an awful lot about GitHub and its Copilot agent, thus allowing you to use it to both study as well as help you control & instruct GitHub Copilot, a process which is bound to save you AI credits.

gergeskirolos59 said:
github bills by api pricing , not usage pool same as ollama cloud , very bad deal
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Not sure how you came to this conclusion, but it's incorrect.

As mentioned I got a pro subscription which is essentially the lowest non-free tier and I have 1500 AI credits/month which I can use for whatever kind of project. It's actually quite a good deal because I've done some pretty heavy stuff which only costs me around 150 credits; 10%. Something to keep in mind: /ask and /plan, these can help you finetune its usage which can also save credits.
 
ShelLuser said:
I've became quite fond (and impressed) with the combination of both Copilot (365) as well as GitHub Copilot. Both can be used for free but obviously you'll get better results with a subscription. I've had a Microsoft 365 Personal subscription for quite a long time already, but only recently started to experiment with Copilot. As for GitHub: I got myself a separate Pro subscription for E 10,-/month.

Here's the thing: GitHub Copilot is all about coding and applying different solutions, whereas Copilot (365) is basically a general chatbot with a main focus on Microsoft Office. However, said chatbot also knows an awful lot about GitHub and its Copilot agent, thus allowing you to use it to both study as well as help you control & instruct GitHub Copilot, a process which is bound to save you AI credits.
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I quit the $10 guthub copilot subscription when it started refusing to answer questions that were not about code on github. They didn't refuse just non-code questions, the code has to be on github.
 
cracauer@ said:
I quit the $10 guthub copilot subscription when it started refusing to answer questions that were not about code on github. They didn't refuse just non-code questions, the code has to be on github.
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Then I guess they made changes because I sure had 0 problems with this. In fact... I even got it to help me explain certain issues/warnings trigged by VS Code extensions; it didn't even flinch (in specific: I've started relying on ShellCheck, but because it's geared towards Linux/Bash it can have some issues with FreeBSD's /bin/sh shell).
 
atax1a said:
imagine paying money to use slop
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$20 a month is a lot of money! That's something like $240 (I wanted to verify that with ai before I posted that total but i'm out of credits so, I'm gonna risk it).

...It actually surprises me very much that people pay actual currency for a chat.
Oh!? I just found $20 in this jacket pocket. ...*flush*
 
ShelLuser said:
I've became quite fond (and impressed) with the combination of both Copilot (365) as well as GitHub Copilot. Both can be used for free but obviously you'll get better results with a subscription. I've had a Microsoft 365 Personal subscription for quite a long time already, but only recently started to experiment with Copilot. As for GitHub: I got myself a separate Pro subscription for E 10,-/month.

Here's the thing: GitHub Copilot is all about coding and applying different solutions, whereas Copilot (365) is basically a general chatbot with a main focus on Microsoft Office. However, said chatbot also knows an awful lot about GitHub and its Copilot agent, thus allowing you to use it to both study as well as help you control & instruct GitHub Copilot, a process which is bound to save you AI credits.


Not sure how you came to this conclusion, but it's incorrect.

As mentioned I got a pro subscription which is essentially the lowest non-free tier and I have 1500 AI credits/month which I can use for whatever kind of project. It's actually quite a good deal because I've done some pretty heavy stuff which only costs me around 150 credits; 10%. Something to keep in mind: /ask and /plan, these can help you finetune its usage which can also save credits.
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That may be true, but it has a severely limited context - I did that when I burned through my corporate tokens. While it worked, it was painful, I had to concatenate files and pipe that into the chat and keep it under a certain character limit.

I'd be inclined to pay for a subscription, but I have a full-time job and I would never feel like I got my money's worth. For free, I don't 'feel' like I have to get my money's worth and at least with Opencode, I much prefer Big Pickle versus Qwen 3 Max, mainly in terms of results, but if factor in that I paid for Qwen and Big Pickle was free, even better.

$20 isn't worth what it used to be, but also in that regard, as everything continually gets more expensive, it becomes harder to justify that on probabilities not necessarily results.

I haven't actually coded for the past year for better or worse. As someone else said, you end up with slop. You have to manage that, otherwise, how do you know if you have something useful or not? Do you want to manage slop or write code?
 
atax1a said:
you can just write code without the bobot, y'all. we've been doing it for decades.
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Why assume that people who utilize AI always do so to be lazy? Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with you here. Thing is though, a decent AI agent can do much more than that.

Allowing it to parse your code and provide suggestions on how might improve on it can be quite useful if you also make sure to make it give you references with everything. I mean, why assume to know everything here? Getting another unbiased look on things can be quite educational at times.

Speaking of which, searching Bing and/or Google and then digging through all the ad nonsense is one thing, telling an AI to look for what you need to know is often a lot more quicker. Especially when it lists several resources which you can immediately look into yourself to verify.

Using it like this may be a bit slower than how "other people" use it, but you'll still save quite a bit of time while also staying fully in control over everything. Heck, might even learn something new.
 
ShelLuser said:
I've became quite fond (and impressed) with the combination of both Copilot (365) as well as GitHub Copilot. Both can be used for free but obviously you'll get better results with a subscription. I've had a Microsoft 365 Personal subscription for quite a long time already, but only recently started to experiment with Copilot. As for GitHub: I got myself a separate Pro subscription for E 10,-/month.

Here's the thing: GitHub Copilot is all about coding and applying different solutions, whereas Copilot (365) is basically a general chatbot with a main focus on Microsoft Office. However, said chatbot also knows an awful lot about GitHub and its Copilot agent, thus allowing you to use it to both study as well as help you control & instruct GitHub Copilot, a process which is bound to save you AI credits.


Not sure how you came to this conclusion, but it's incorrect.

As mentioned I got a pro subscription which is essentially the lowest non-free tier and I have 1500 AI credits/month which I can use for whatever kind of project. It's actually quite a good deal because I've done some pretty heavy stuff which only costs me around 150 credits; 10%. Something to keep in mind: /ask and /plan, these can help you finetune its usage which can also save credits.
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atax1a said:
you can just write code without the bobot, y'all. we've been doing it for decades.
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I did not mention coding , use case is not coding , tbh it is even bad thing to do when i posted few days ago that i want to learn , i will use it for automation (i know there is alot of things that can be done without it at all in this matter l
 
gergeskirolos59 said:
I did not mention coding , use case is not coding , tbh it is even bad thing to do when i posted few days ago that i want to learn , i will use it for automation (i know there is alot of things that can be done without it at all in this matter l
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I'd say to you: use AI for whatever you want. You are a free person. In any case, many in this forum will say that you should automate things using scripts (or other technologies), not AI. So, you are never going to make some people happy. Don't even try.
 
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