Goodbye GitHub ... ?

I've subscribed to MMORPGs, read the clause about no RE or private servers, and haven't been dissuaded :cool:

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I figure if code's out in the open anywhere, it's usable by anything (if I wanted it private it wouldn't be uploaded online, and you can't control what someone else does with software since there's no authoritative entity); Paramount can hypothetically send a DMCA to my ISP about "pirating copyrighted work", but it wouldn't stop me from downloading the content, watching it, and keeping it for repeat viewings :p

Cthulhux said:
how do you communicate with people who commit a crime against you?
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If it's digital, collaborate :p (if I made a paid game and someone cracked it, I can either fruitlessly cat-and-mouse patch it, or quietly entertain it; pirating something still shows interest)
 
6502 said:
If you want to keep copyright, release executable without open source.
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That's Plan B, indeed, but it's not how copyright is supposed to work. Also, I do enjoy human contributions every now and then, and having the source code available on the internet makes it easier to attract them.
 
Crivens said:
Did you say Atari?
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JohnK said:
wait!? ugh! I assume that's an "insult" I'm supposed to react to, but I don't know that one so I cannot gauge a proper response (that's not fair--defeated in the first round! you need to start less obscure). ...may I just say: "u r a dumb head"?
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Oh I get it (I wikipedia'd "vim and atari"). I did not know Atari made a computer. Nice. ..."stevie"; interesting!
 
6502 said:
If you want to keep copyright, release executable without open source.
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even executables have been reverse-engineered.

Cthulhux : Sometimes, there's perfectly infuriating stuff that you gotta learn to live with - like taxes. And I'd frankly recommend taking a class on basic civic or petty criminal law, and learn how disputes are resolved in court, how street crime is handled, what options police have, what options the justice system has, learn what perspective is applicable where. Options open to plaintiffs are different than options open to defendants.
 
JohnK said:
wait!? ugh! I assume that's an "insult" I'm supposed to react to, but I don't know that one so I cannot gauge a proper response (that's not fair--defeated in the first round! you need to start less obscure). ...may I just say: "u r a dumb head"?
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Come on, let's pick one of the golden oldies: Atari versus Commodore!
Windows versus Linux was long after that and vi .vs. emacs is rather pointless. Best thing was DME, from Matt Dillon.
 
Back to the point, copyright is a quagmire because it tries to rope an immaterial thing into a judicial concept of material things, like ownership. Enforcement is tricky, detection is tricky and the concept is hard to model. Did you really loose something? Your copy is still there. If it was free Software, you have no monetary loss. Maybe we need a new judicial concept for software after all. But my hopes to get one, today, with all these lobbyists, is around 4 kelvin.
 
I actually use protozoa editors in 2026, with ed(1) as my $EDITOR and SciTECO (a variant of TECO) as a toy on one of my Windows systems. Basically, text editing was harder when every single line of output had to be printed on paper, so commands were short and not always obvious. But learning and using "old editors" is still worth it, as they are much more efficient than the GUIs of now.
 
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