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Great. So we already have a Jailhub. What about Bhyvehub?
I would rather prefer something properly developed like unikernels instead. MirageOS is indeed a good example. And, for the record, MirageOS work on bhyve.
Great. So we already have a Jailhub. What about Bhyvehub?
MirageOS is indeed a good example.
That is yours. Not the problem I see. I said about traditional OSes. Prebuilt images of something like CentOS or Ubuntu already made by someone I could fetch and modify to suite my needs.I would rather prefer something properly developed like unikernels instead. MirageOS is indeed a good example. And, for the record, MirageOS work on bhyve.
Prebuilt images of something like CentOS or Ubuntu already made by someone I could fetch and modify to suite my needs.
Straightforward. I like it. If we go with this answer sooner no useless off-topic discussion needed. Back to the topic about docker.There is no such thing as BhyveHub.
Back to the topic about docker.
Virtualization is related to Docker. The comments about unikernels are relevant to the discussion because they are probably a better way forward.
Straightforward. I like it. If we go with this answer sooner no useless off-topic discussion needed. Back to the topic about docker.
Such thing like Dockerhub is so helpful for outsourcer. Specifically for devs on our country. They are pretty much just about money, deploy fast and gone, despite the code is spaghetti and shitetty because another random guy of another low cost outsource company will take that shite. Somewhat irresponsible but true. Even their cash is too low compared to the western. And the company keeps most of it.Just because a company has not yet added an almost consumer-centric web page to a technology, does in no way mean it is inferior.
Something like DockerHub is great for quick thrills and if someone is unable to install complex software themselves but in real world scenarios, most of the images are not usable; they are not tailored to the job at hand. I would still need to set one up bespoke for any internal developed software.
Do you think people just use Git because of Microsoft GitHub? Why do people still also use CVS, SVN, Hg, etc.. when there are no corresponding *Hub sites for them?
Don't get me wrong, containers are good and Docker is fine. But I find the off-the-shelf container "market place" design a little naive especially when it comes to future maintenance.
No-one is going to maintain a i.e glibc 2.11 container just so I can run some crusty old application. I will either have to update my stuff or maintain the container myself. So I might as well start now and ignore the DockerHub.
Docker is one of those things that is great until it all stops working in 10 years. Then we will need to dig up all the old shite and replace it. Yeah, we will get paid, so I can't complain I suppose.
Docker, a one-time highflier in business software that reached a $1 billion valuation in 2015, is struggling mightily these days as it tries to raise some much-needed capital.
For example, it comes from hype companies like facebook. These are highly depending on their share price. So what would happen if Zuckerberg was selling half his shares? The rest would crash down. But if he buys a startup with it that was funded by "a guy whose 3.rd cousin he met in a pub"? Vision! Progress!! In the end he moved a lot of his wealth from fantasy land (shares) into the real world.Here we go again. 100 people with used laptops, open source idea, leased office - valuation 1 billion
Who's doing all the valutions of those "We got the killer app or solution," and where do all the billions, in IPOs and adverts, are coming from?
statements made by it's members - none of it is professional in tone, purpose, or accuracy - are definitely not for me and my peers.
It's not up to FreeBSD to do this. Docker is a Linux thing only. Some try to shoehorn it into FreeBSD but that's not what this thread is about. The "Docker is Dead" title comes from two articles from two non-FreeBSD sources but here you are pointing the finger at FreeBSD.I think it's fine if BSD does not want to be docker compatible
That's nothing. You should see any one thread in any one technical Linux forum. This is the Off Topic board here.This is my first foray into the FreeBSD community and if this thread is indicative of overall culture, yikes!
As a professional sysadmin/programmer, i've never used docker, but then in my professional capacity i dont use linux.wow. this is some negative circle jerk ya'll have going on here. Are there any mature FreeBSD leaders in this thread?
I think it's fine if BSD does not want to be docker compatible, there is lots of room in technology for different solutions. Mainframes even still have their place after all. However, wishing death upon another technology simply because it doesn't work well on your platform out of the box is rather naive.
With regards to those saying "bsd does things technically correct and the rest is crapware"....well, that's an interesting perspective given how many "technical facts" about docker in this thread are dead wrong. For instance, Docker does not load an entire OS into memory. Also, docker is keenly aware of LXC - it utilizes it! One could almost say that Docker simply created a friendly user interface for LXC. And that is just one example, I am actually hard pressed to find a technically accurate statement about docker in this thread.
From a non-technical perspective, there also seems to be big gap in understanding. I see some folks suggesting Make files - that's literally the anti-thisis to docker! Make files require an understanding of the platform the software runs one so as it can ensure it has the right dependencies, and with some luck, those dependencies won't conflict with other software on the same system. By in large, docker solves both of these very real problems and so many more.
This is my first foray into the FreeBSD community and if this thread is indicative of overall culture, yikes! As a professional sys admin, I am inclined to steer away quickly. Weather Docker succeeds or fails in BSD, the extremely uninformed hyperbolic statements made by it's members - none of it is professional in tone, purpose, or accuracy - are definitely not for me and my peers.
Good luck to ya'll !