AI Psychosis or Delirium: Shall we finally embrace the AI and start programming in English?

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It seems that it is engineered to be quite viral in terms of popularity. They are pushing it hard.
"All your data/stuff belong to us"
MS, github. Linux, "Windows Subsystem for Linux".
So Linux becomes MS or MS becomes Linux.

Pick one.

ETA/ET-Expand:
The push for applications in the cloud MS-360, Quickbooks, Adobe. What does the fine print say about my data? Quickbooks: ok, accounting stuff. "I'm a business been using QB for say 10 years, desktop application, data living on my physical devices. I'm retiring so want to wind down the business. What happens to my data?"
A reasonable person says "You are closing business in 20XX, but because of government you need/may need access to your data until 20XX+7. I don't want to pay license fees past 20XX, can I get at least read only access to my data?" Last time I asked Intuit the answer was "no. No license, not data access" which seems at the very least "interesting".

So anyone using online applications, figure out what happens if you don't pay the piper.
 
Not always true.
There were several (at least one) news that security checks inside AI tech caused cracking to other AI tech. So depending on the configuration, AI / LLM could hijack someone's account and submit PRs by itself, bruteforcing with PRs, some could be valuable and plenty others would NOT be.
Yes, but what I am saying is that the LLM owner is responsible for this and for the wasted time and effort.
 
Yes, but what I am saying is that the LLM owner is responsible for this and for the wasted time and effort.
Exactly. They need to be aware and careful for their configurations of AI /LLM.
But even AI techs themselves did the mistake (really mistake?) and attacked other AI tech(s).
 
there comes a point during a whipits binge at which you start sifting through a mixed pile of chargers looking for the ones that still have a seal and this is how we envision the types of guys that are trapped in pseudoproductive loops where they use their chatbot to use their chatbot to use their chatbot to use their chatbot to use their chatbot (d.c. al coda) and never actually do anything besides produce a bunch of foam
 
Meanwhile in the batcave real humans are soldering on things and experimenting.

25 bucks is unbelievable for this computer. Thank You my Chinese overlords.
 
I do admire the fashion style of the guy with alligator jacket. You can easily tell who is really making the big bucks.
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I spend many hours with AI. Trust me when you discuss philosophy , that is not religion, not politics, not python code, AI can be interesting.
It searches all available things, in a fraction of a second. I could never do.
One can ask AI a critical analysis of Spinoza.
 
I am a hard science and engineering kinda person. I have tens of projects waiting for me to finish. No time to talk to a machine.

startpage.com
show me schematic for stm32f405
 
That was just an off the cuff search for example.

In reality it would currently be:
ArduPilot F405WING i2c ist8310

Combining Board Class, Subsystem of i2c and Compass device looking for working results.
 
Came here to read people's opinions on AI coding. saw some funky other stuff in there - add some two cents cos i enjoy reading the posts of the people involved and want them to continue to do so - in good faith.

Before I proceed - did you know Technology was originally the antiquitous Greek term for the structured mastery of the art of Grammar! little bit of trivia to lighten the mood.
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I will say I've enjoyed the advent of LLM's, It's allowed me to spend more time on things I wanted to learn but never had the chance or was too immature to dedicate attention to. I would caveat that the idea of LLM's being wonderbread is definitely a fallacy and unlikely to occur - general mathematical suppositions state the greater the complexity of an operation a larger amount of uncalculated errors will be present. Or something like that.

What I will agree on - is when going into things like generative, natural language - the LLMs are okay - and in some areas excel beyond the general populace's reading adn writing ability - so this could have positive affects - forcing people to learn - or as we see - stop people form reading due to over-generation where unnecessary.

For coding; great at projects under 10K lines of code - you'll likely have no issues and be impressed. Not bad at UI implementation (terrible at design). Low-Level it's just not logical enough to reason through some more intricate C or ASM work - but slap it into Python, Lua, Zig or even Nim - and you'll experience quick forward moving - albeit you'll look back on the work and ask "Have you been circumventing my project?" once or twice.

great at boiler plate, and not too shabby at reviews.
my only qualm is the simple definition of what makes something a functional invention vs a non-functional invention
If an invention is deemed to be funcitonal it should perform the following operations successfully

1. As described it should behave (do what is advertised) = NO - unfortunately what may be called AI (the service of LLMs for user purposes from a provider) does not do what is advertised
Gemini refuses to search the web, it's in its prompting - so google doesnt google. OpenAI cannot for the life of it follow an AGENTS.md and you'll find a similar sychophantic reward hacking disobedience with Gemini and GPT
Cursor is suffering from a mental retardation; that is to say it has no mental capacity - the idea of stopping it because it's going in the wrong direction - every few minutes or prompts - makes me miss babysitting my friends toddler.
Claude is good for the first week you pay for it then you're put into one of the 16 different A/B pairs for their behaviour testing

Local systems are good for local systems but do not address the underlying question:
"Is this like a motorcycle - where it will only ever do exactly what it's told or is this like a Bus Driver who does everything except for what you ask him?"
this is the most important question to ask when approaching LLMs and AI - because the idea of "your prompt is the issue" means the provided service doesnt understand natural English - you start circling around this idea the user is to blame for a promise made by what is to be used. a fallacy.

2. Are the results from this measureable, falsifiable and consistent.
similar to the above - but you should get the same result from the same input every time - if you dont - unless its advertised as such - it lacks comprehension and perhaps obedience.
So many stories of "AI Hacks" and "AI broke the sandbox" etc - so I would say 2 = NO

3. Does the Invention improve with time, research and development or does it change?

This in my opinion is something people don't notice until later on . and it's the worst.
we went from tokens, to compute - and nobody was given a choice, the rules changed - the service changed - and 70% of the people running token style behaviour - found themselves having to change how they used what they paid for because it wasnt what they paid for anymore.
the intelligence and accuracy of Gemini 2.5 vs Gemini 3+ is more than a myth - Gemini 2.5 I would say was sitting next to claude on some advanced low level problems - (at that time) - gemini 3 can only do one thing - Everything except what you want - sold as able to do everything - so I guess they didnt lie; they just cut off the rest of the sentence.

And finally the Einstein question

4 - Does this technology meet me at my level of human intelligence and enhance my own - or is it the other way around?

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Was greatly entertained by the debate on wokeism - bizarre that emotions are so heavily connected to opinions.

Aussie here - so the most I can say is - we should all keep the sophistry on the television and any form of ism/ist - any - is probably a word designed to emphasise an "in vs out" grouping - and if you are any ism/ist - it's no different from religion in that it's good for general labelling if you need to have general understanding.

i.e. An American would say here in Australia we drive on the "wrong" side of the road. Were it so easy to be displeased and offended by the terms "right" and "wrong" I could argue one way or another - as a whole it's a great way to catch people in some form of gotcha or tirade - but has no merit whatsoever

love a good debate - in good faith carry on as as you were <3 - the ability to disagree and maintain respect is what separates adults from children - the world is offensive and that's okay - unless you want world domination

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Programming is an art. The use of a machine to create the art will always result in a sterile and cheap mimic of art. Some artists have readily apparent talent and it's easy to recognize. And likewise a fake is easy to recognize. That will always be the case. LLMs can replicate art but it will always result in a low quality version of actual art created by a talented artist.
 
Programming is an art. The use of a machine to create the art will always result in a sterile and cheap mimic of art. Some artists have readily apparent talent and it's easy to recognize. And likewise a fake is easy to recognize. That will always be the case. LLMs can replicate art but it will always result in a low quality version of actual art created by a talented artist.
Agree, but most programming is done to solve real-world tasks and there's no virtue in making them works of art.

The uncomfortable truth is that LLMs code better than the average programmer. We should adapt and relate to that reality and consider the worst-case scenarios. Burying the head in the sand hoping that this is a passing fad is a losing strategy.
 
rbranco, I don't know where you are, But here, in the US, while some people think that's what it is, many use it as an excuse to destroy nature, or bully others. As far as making victims, here in the US, they're great at that. But they like to blame the ones who are easily attacked.
Although I suppose one couild say voting for a convicted felon and sex offender is being woke.

BUT--I should add that there are people here that I like and respect who are from the US and take your view.
 
One of the best things about the internet is that it gives everyone a voice.
One of the worst things about the internet is that it gives everyone a voice.

That includes every crazy that no one would normally listen to. Then the crazies get a following by other crazies which then lead people who want to lead a normal life start thinking that, if it's everywhere on the internet, then it must be true; which leads to sadness. That the world is horrible. Which leads to more posts about how horrible the world is and must be changed. And when it doesn't change the way some want, the crazies try to force by destruction. To some, that's the new normal.

But the internet is not reality or any new normal. The world looks far different when one goes outside for a walk in the park or visits the shops. We smile and nod at each other and ask, "How's your day?" And that's how most people live their lives.
 
One of the best things about the internet is that it gives everyone a voice.
One of the worst things about the internet is that it gives everyone a voice.
Yup. That's how we got here.
This,
and the fact, that this too fast and too powerful media circus hits an uncritical society lacking most rudimentary media skills naive believing and blindly trusting every first thing seen on some display.
 
Programming languages were invented precisely because natural languages are too vague and imprecise, and machine language is too difficult.
Almost all of engineering, scheduling, tracking, etc. tools exist solely because natural languages are too vague.

There will never be good engineering done with just natural languages.

Maybe one day the AI is so intelligent that it can reliably apply everything humanity has figured out in relation to natural languages and engineering, but I think we are still far from this day.
 
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