List good war movies...

The only missing part of "Paths of Glory" are the political decisions, and in these regards I liked very much "Darkest Hour" of Joe Wright, also if it is not strictly in the war gender.
Along the same lines: Dunkirk. And it's also interesting to binge-watch the scenes from "The Crown" that deal with the interaction between king or queen and prime minister or other senior officials.
 
Along the same lines: Dunkirk. And it's also interesting to binge-watch the scenes from "The Crown" that deal with the interaction between king or queen and prime minister or other senior officials.
For some reason I hate Cristopher Nolan. "Inception" at a certain point seem the parody of Inception. There is more suspense in 5 seconds of an Hitchcock film, than in his entire Batman. After "Interstellar", I promise to myself: this is the last time, dear Nolan, you screw me. So, no, I will never see Dunkirk! :-)
 
I have it similar with Nicolas Cage.
I have no actual reason I could point out why, 'cause there for sure is none, but I simply cannot stand to watch movies with him, don't know why.
My guess is, it's his acting style. He uses the same behavior and style of speech in many of his movies. It's not typical behavior, but it works out in movies. Kind of like, he's acting as himself in terms of personality, but acting as a different type of person for the character.
 
He uses the same behavior and style of speech in many of his movies.
Nah, I'm not quite sure.
Because that's something many actors do. (see acting schools Stella Adler vs. Lee Strasberg)

But we don't need to solve that.
I can live without his movies.
He for sure can live without having me as a fan.
And none of you should be talked out of watching Nicolas Cage movies, just because I have some silly spleen. :cool:
 
I have it similar with Nicolas Cage.
I have no actual reason I could point out why, 'cause there for sure is none, but I simply cannot stand to watch movies with him, don't know why.
To be honest, I know the main reason why I hate Cristopher Nolan: I don't believe he is sincere in what he want to transmit. I feel that he inserts many elements according a recipe. I cannot concede him the suspension of disbelief. I see a lot of form but a lack of real substance. To be honest, "Memento" was acceptable to me, but the rest, I felt to lost my time. But the marketing around Nolan is so strong, that I saw too many of his films!

I hate the social media because there are too much haters, but in case of Cristopher Nolan, I'm one of them :-) Everyone need something to hate :-)

One funny thing: I saw "Pi", "Requeiem for a Dream" and "The Whale". I liked them very much, and only later I discovered that they are from the same director Darren Aronofsky.
 
I'll add a few more..

300 - Prepare for glory - 2006
Patton - 1970
Fury - (WW2 Tank battle) - 2014
A bridge too far - 1977
Casablanca (Black and White) - 1942 - Humphrey Bogart, Ingrid Bergman - (Edit: Oops! - someone else got than one!)
The big red One - 1980
The Train - 1964 - This is an old one, Black and White.
 
Apropos classics. One day I saw "Seven Samurai" of Akira Kurosawa - 1954 (it is the year of the film, not of the story :-) I expected the worst, i.e. an annoying film. Instead, the characters were very well done and the story was rather entertaining.
 
Nah, sorry, cannot second this one.
The topic clearly says "good war movies", not "war movies", and even Harvey Keitel is part of the cast, it's one the worst war movies I've ever seen.

If a movie is seen as good or bad is also kind of personal taste. But when it comes to war movies with the plot placed within real history, it's a delicate topic to be handled very carefully, especially when fiction is mixed with facts. And that's exactly what this movie makes it so bad. It completely ignores facts to produce some complete fictive action spectacle glued together from some few picked and ripped apart historical facts.

Particulary the US american film industry loves to reproduce the plots so to remind again and again of their not to be valued enough part in WW II's european war theater. But presenting all US soldiers only as the smart heroic good guys, and all Germans always only as the shifty bad guys, it's not only way too simplified to look at those things, but it subtle whitewashes german history, and that's not good. Nazi Germany was not some kind of a "Darth Vader and his imperial storm troopers evil empire", some bad guys you can use for telling fantastic fairy tales about good against evil for children. It had by far some complete other quality. And it's not that simple.

When you've seen that movie U-571 only, without knowing any historical facts about its topic, you have at first a wrong idea how the real situation in the Atlantic Ocean in WW II was. But the worst part is, it hijacks the capture of an Enigma for the US Navy, which is not only a total downright lie, but an affront, a kick in the teeth of the Royal Navy and her seamen. The US Navy was almost completely uninvolved in this. It was pretty much the Royal Navy alone need to be honored for that success.
So, yes, the USA did more than a lot in WW II. And nobody in Europe will ever forget this, and everybody will be forever grateful for that - Thanks! - even without Hollywood.
But they did not everything, and not everything all alone. It's only fair not to forget the major part in WW II against nazi Germany was played by others. Thanks!

Point is, alas many people gain their historical knowledgde by movies only. And since the US film industry is by far the largest there is, so are most movies about or playing during WW II come from the USA, telling the point of view from US side. Per se there is nothing wrong with that. But an audience better never forget, cinema ain't no documentary. Those movies are neither made for teaching history, nor telling the truth. They are produced for entertainment. And to make money. When an audience forgets that and gathers their historical knowledge by movies only, or believe in them too strong, then they can get a distorted model of what really happened in their heads.

Example: There are movies about D-Day. The best ones are mentioned here in this thread. Not a single one of that movie claims, that operation was primarily an US operation. But since a movie's plot is mostly told by following a few characters, and those movies are primarily US origin, the plot is told primarily from the US american point of view. So there can be the impression the British were just a side show. If you don't know any true history of that operation, but seen those movies only, you get the impression, the majority if not all soldiers invaded the nothern coast of France have been US american soldiers only, and yes, some british were also part of that anyhow. But that's not true. There have been at least the same amount of British and Canadian soldiers that day. And later also Poles, French, Norwegians and soldiers by several other countries were involved to free Europe from nazi Germany. But since that is too complex for entertaining, such "details" are simply neglected for a movie's plot.
That's OK as long as it's not watched uncritically as some documentary, and the true historical facts are known.

That's exactly why Goebbels enlarged Germany's film industry during WW II and was keen to accelerate the invention of TV [Germany had the first (few, experimental) TV sets at the end of WW II], because he knew, people believe what they see in movies.
Passively listening to others talking combined with watching moving pictures demands consciously controlled watching to not settle directly unfiltered into memory. When it's entertainment nobody wants to watch critically. One wants to be passively entertained. One wants to have fun. That's no problem per se. But you always be better aware of what exactly you are watching. At least afterwards do a small critical review, not only repeat the catch lines and sententious sayings, and if there was enough titties and action, but also about the plot. And in case of historical, particular war movies do some few investigations, what the real facts are, what's partially true and what's ficition.
 
Zero action, most chilling.

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