What is the future of FreeBSD?

dorijan said:
Epoch time?
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I know what's Unix time is, but I don't get the joke/punch line if there were any.

But since we are WAY off-topic, I better play a round Heroes of Might and Magic III, watch my James Bond (I started that two weeks ago, watching one of those old 60s and 70s "twelve-year-old-boys-dreams" stuff [have some charm though; artisanal well made movies though] ... tonight it will be "Moonraker" 😂😎👍:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
cu tomorrow at the eraliest
 
Maturin said:
I know what's Unix time is, but I don't get the joke/punch line if there were any.

But since we are WAY off-topic, I better play a round Heroes of Might and Magic III, watch my James Bond (I started that two weeks ago, watching one of those old 60s and 70s "twelve-year-old-boys-dreams" stuff [have some charm though; artisanal well made mocies though] ... tonight it will be "Moonraker" 😂😎👍:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
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Bond, James Bond. Shaken not stirred. Sean Connery was the best. Roger Moore was a good 1970's interpretation (more serious than funny) Moonraker is a good one.
 
I like all my posts very much. I think they add a lot to any conversation because I'm a highly intelligent person. I don't drink, though. Also, sometimes I can't take some things seriously, but this is not my fault. Some things are categorically not serious. Besides, this is the off-topic forum, where taking things seriously is not required.

In sum: I'm right. You are wrong. It's the natural order of things.
 
AlfredoLlaquet said:
I'm right. You are wrong. It's the natural order of things.
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Sounds kind of arrogant to me.
That's not my way.
This way you may become president of the USA, while I am a democrat, stay here, searching for all people may live their lifes in peace, drink beer, or not, or what whatever crap you drink in spain (you do have some drinkable wines), but in the end: live and let live.
 
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Twenty years ago, I used w3m-img, zhcon, ee, and mplayer for everyday tasks. I'd open tty1 for top, tty2 to configure stuff, tty3 to browse the internet, tty4 to play music... You get the idea.

But none of that really works anymore. w3m-img can't handle modern websites. zhcon hasn't seen an update. ee chokes on PDFs.

So here's the question: is FreeBSD going to stay stuck in the tech bubble, or is it going to become more friendly to regular users?

I've seen the news that FreeBSD is getting some pre-configured auto options. But I honestly don't get why so many people hate the idea of a window manager. Is it really that complicated?

And nobody has the right to demand that programmers grind out all that hard work. But come on — are we still living in the world of 30 years ago?

twm first came out in 1988. Now it's 2026. 2026 minus 1988 equals 38. That's 38 years gone by.
 
Aside all the jokes and senseless bike-shedding; I think the future of FreeBSD is addressing its old and archaic service management, lack of a modern scheduler for heterogeneous processors, and lack of a modern embedded filesystem. Hopefully after their laptop support phase these things will be assessed.
 
Ilovehotdog, it's surprisingly doable to stick with some of the older programs, though not all of them. I don't think there is a console browser that works on modern web pages, and though I still use mutt for email, I have it set to open a browser for some html mail and zathura for pdfs. However, there is a pdf2txt, don't know how well it works.
Anyway, there is already GhostBSD for a newcomer friendly version. My argument against making FreeBSD too newcomer friendly is that we've seen in Linux how doing so can often make it more difficult for the experienced to do what they're used to. Though, despite what you might have seen on the forums, I think that those who understand what will actually happen if KDE is added to the install, realize that it is simply an option which they can choose to use or not use.

If I'm not mistaken, you mentioned you use ArchLinux, or have used it. I think FreeBSD is best being sort of like that--default is a quick CLI install, and afterwards, the user can add a GUI, or make it a DNS server, or a Samba server or whatever. Its slogan is The Power To Serve, and it excels at that. Even though RH, at least in the US, has more of the server market, it is where FreeBSD's strength is. Like bakul said, commenting here is unlikely to influence the direction. It's fine to voice your opinion of course, but again as bakul said, your best bet to help is getting involved. There are different ways to do that. https://docs.freebsd.org/en/articles/contributing/

Or, you can get involved by simply having your own pages of information. I believe that someone on these forums mentioned that they'd tried to do some official documentation, but that there were various strictures that made it unpleasant so they just started their own site. (I'm going by vague memory so I could be wrong). Lots of people though, have sites with useful information on Linux, FreeBSD, both, or all sorts of computer information, e.g, opensource plus Mac and Windows stuff.

This isn't a criticism. It's just saying that while you might have opinions on where FreeBSD is going or should go, if you confine those opinions to these forums, they're not going to have effect on the future of FreeBSD. The length of this thread shows that, I think, it's gone one for a lot of posts with many of us just wanting to give our opinion, but it's sort of a bikeshed discussion. (I think I've posted the link before, but if you're unfamiliar with the the term https://bikeshed.com/).
 
Alain De Vos said:
i had a math teacher, he told us, wise men do self critic.
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What do have stupid and intelligent people have in common?
They both do make mistakes.
What differs intelligent from stupid people?
Intelligent people ask questions, like 'what I made wrong?' or 'Did I made something wrong?' or 'how do this work?'
 
Ilovehotdog said:
But none of that really works anymore. w3m-img can't handle modern websites. zhcon hasn't seen an update. ee chokes on PDFs.
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Then don't use them. Why would you expect ee to handle PDFs? I didn't even know it did.
Ilovehotdog said:
is FreeBSD going to stay stuck in the tech bubble
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This is a mom and pop user mentality. A Windows gamer mentality. If you want games and user friendly simple things, use Windows. FreeBSD is not for you.
Ilovehotdog said:
are we still living in the world of 30 years ago?
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To the contrary, FreeBSD is modern and an advanced system for today. That is a very misinformed statement you made.
 
Espionage724 said:
PC gaming can't have that :cool:; you're supposed to tweak PCs for the best gaming experience (else why not a console), and rabbit holes can lead to FreeBSD with lowest-known latency and xorg.conf snippets fun!
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The culture is enshittified. Imagine you desire a backdoor in your gaming system that listens to your controller link to ensure you're not using software on it to cheat. I don't get it. The real competition spririt is gone at this point. That isn't really about skills but being popular in an imaginary (corporate) universe.
 
drhowarddrfine said:
Ilovehotdog No you're not. Average users can't even spell FreeBSD much less find this forum.
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We’re living in the information age.

DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.

News and feature lists of Linux and BSD distributions.
distrowatch.com distrowatch.com

And there are tons of videos about FreeBSD, Linux, and Haiku on YouTube and Bilibili.

Does anyone still live without a smartphone?

What’s so weird about an average user finding out about open source projects?
 
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