Are there any "trekkie fans"

Small rant, in my youth & that is 30 years ago , we went with our cars together, pc,screen,keyboard loaded in the back. And in my very old times we connected using , coax, i think it was called fat-internet-10-base-5. Then we shot rockets on eachother. :)
 
Alain De Vos said:
Small rant, in my youth & that is 30 years ago , we went with our cars together, pc,screen,keyboard loaded in the back. And in my very old times we connected using , coax, i think it was called fat-internet-10-base-5. Then we shot rockets on eachother. :)
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I remember the coax/thin-net era too...we had DEC coaxial ethernet cards in DOS PCs. I remember having to "fix" the network one time because somebody set a policy that meant all department secretaries would update files on an NFS share at the same time every day. That was in the era of half-duplex ethernet so the concentrator went collision crazy...until I re-tuned the NFS clients on each workstation to do NFS I/O on much smaller packets than the default 8k size.
 
Alain De Vos said:
we went with our cars together, pc,screen,keyboard loaded in the back
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I carried this and a 12-in HP LCD 7 streets across town to a friend's for weekend LANs :p

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kent_dorfman766 said:
I remember the coax/thin-net era too...we had DEC coaxial ethernet cards in DOS PCs. I remember having to "fix" the network one time because somebody set a policy that meant all department secretaries would update files on an NFS share at the same time every day. That was in the era of half-duplex ethernet so the concentrator went collision crazy...until I re-tuned the NFS clients on each workstation to do NFS I/O on much smaller packets than the default 8k size.
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Fun thing , when a terminator at the end come off , everything went down. The signals reflected, and there was also a protocol to configure, i think IPX
:)
 
cracauer@ said:
Introducing a queen or king of the Borg went against what the Borg were introduced to be in TNG, though. The whole point is that they don't have a head huncho and are self-organizing.
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the Picard series had a much more sympathetic take on the Borg and we kinda liked that.
 
cracauer@ said:
Introducing a queen or king of the Borg went against what the Borg were introduced to be in TNG, though. The whole point is that they don't have a head huncho and are self-organizing.
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That was my understanding too, so the whole Borg Queen thing kind of bugs me. I thought Borg was a dissertation on "tyranny of the majority" rule...or maybe that concept scared the writers, who probably believe in unfettered pure democracy without restraints.
 
Yes, I'm a huge fan, and I used to attend events along time ago. Also, I know that many people are going to disagree with me on this, but in my opinion, The Voyage Home is simply the best movie out of all of them. The Final Frontier had an interesting premise behind it, but the story line got extremely flubbed during the writing process. I haven't really watched too much of the newer stuff, other than Star Trek Continues on YouTube.
 
I was a huge fan, I mean I still am of the classic 66-01 series...
Enterprise was cool, but kind of a mislead plot, and rushed ending. The final seasons were great.

My favourite has to be DS9, TNG maybe has higher highs but DS9 is one of the best shows ever in the area of character development, and also the amount of Trek lore in it is insane.

Movies, Kirk and Picard, kind of rotating between meh and great.
I also loved the first new Star Trek movie, it really had the starfleet vibe going on.
The second one I didn't like so much, terrorist plot in London, c'mon. The third one I found better, more action. I watched that one in flight and should do it again.

The new series, are for me, ranging between total bullshit to kinda good, with the average being 'meh'.
Discovery I cannot digest the setup. I remember it started pretty bad. But got better at I guess season 2, and I was waiting for next season.
When next season started all the bullshit was back on, it's like the previous episodes never happened. ADHD and personal drama all over Starfleet ship.

Picard started OK but I dropped it, lost interest.

The current audience is not someone to shape Star Trek series against. The topics thoughts and interests of masses today does not align 1% to what classic Star Trek is all about.
 
Espionage724 said:
a 12-in HP LCD
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Thanks. I feel old now. I had to carry 17" CRT around, use serial line to make a network to play Doom or an online text-mud.
kent_dorfman766 said:
I loved Babylon 5 too...
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In that case, I recommend reading the book series around that. The Centauri trilogy has all the back story around Londo and Vir, but I prefer the Technomage Trilogy. They are out of print I fear, and last time I checked the second hand marked had them at an absurd price. Sorry, no lending.
 
I've asked Claude to sum up runtime of new series, seems they shot more than 230 hours of "new" material in last 9 years.

Compare that to 260 hours of Star Trek TV series shot between 1993 and 2001.

About the same time span, about the same runtime, TV shows shot in parallel in both cases, and movies going along with them in both cases.

But the output is incomparable. Not only the writing, but execution too. The bane of current Star Trek is the current TV series format shaped for binge watching. Episodes need to cliff hang, there needs to be a 'tight' plot line running through entire season or entire series, the pace is very fast in comparison, as fast as movies used to be 20 years ago. Compare Discovery to First Contact or Nemesis. Both regular, and action scenes are faster and more involved in Discovery.

I think there may be positive prospects in the future if the current trends in TV series hit a wall and reverse. They say current kids aren't enamored with the warp 9 speed lifestyle of today and are looking back. A serene, slow paced, philosophical Trek might be all they need.

Also I've been thinking, there are a lot of 'action' devices new Trek could use, based on last 15 years of warfare on Earth. The Trek stuff is still like WW2 battleships, you have your guns and your armour and whoever does it better, wins, unless a cunning plan is devised. There is still no 'cyber' stuff, they didn't move much from Data physically bruteforcing PIN entry via the speed of his android body.

Somebody should thoroughly reimagine the Trek technology from 2030 standpoint.
 
Espionage724 said:
I carried this and a 12-in HP LCD 7 streets across town to a friend's for weekend LANs
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We had a small computer shop in the family. I was waiting for my dad to finish what he was doing with ADI 17" monitor so I could get it back for my home PC. One day he comes in and says the monitor is free to go but he didn't pick it up from the company. Instantly I pick up my keys, go there on foot, take the monitor in my arms and bring it home. I was 16, 4 km distance.

My old Quantum Fireball 40GB, still have it, still works, used to dismount it out of the case, throw it into a backpack, carry it around to a friends place to do data transfers.

When it comes to carrying computers in a regular sports backpack, my favourite instance is unscrewing a Trigem mainboard from Olivetti MMX system, power supply and HDD. My buddy had a student job, watching over a restaurant terrace from inside over night. We'd connect the parts on the table, use their 12" mono POS screen, and play Heroes 3 all night long.
 
Zare said:
The bane of current Star Trek is the current TV series format shaped for binge watching.
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My way of handling that is to just queue a folder full of eps on random shuffle :cool:

I like actively doing stuff (like games) and can't imagine sitting down and watching a new series in-order from ep1 start. I liked the random older Trek eps I saw on BBC, but while I never really got into it before, this thread got me interested :p

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Zare said:
Also I've been thinking, there are a lot of 'action' devices new Trek could use, based on last 15 years of warfare on Earth. The Trek stuff is still like WW2 battleships, you have your guns and your armour and whoever does it better, wins, unless a cunning plan is devised. There is still no 'cyber' stuff, they didn't move much from Data physically bruteforcing PIN entry via the speed of his android body.

Somebody should thoroughly reimagine the Trek technology from 2030 standpoint.
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Therein is the rub. The more our world evolves in the direction it is going, the more StarTrek fades into the realm of pure fantasy instead of sci-fi. We face existential threats as a species; threats that I'm not confident we will overcome. Some of those threats are enhanced by current viewpoints about ethical technology use, of more precisely..the lack thereof.
 
The most stupid is starfleet academy. They are attacked in front. The commander orders on bridge "move all shields forward". How more stupid can it get.
 
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