Open Internet in decline according to Google court filing

Zare said:
Imagine Bell selling telephone systems to countries, a system where local switch panel operator cannot tap into the line, but Bell from USA can.

What happened in last ~ 15 years is this. And now we have to swim in it somehow.
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And people trying to develop and/or sell other gear that can not be tapped in get very depressed quite suddenly. Very very depressed, so they hang themselves in a public park...
 
Many people write interesting comments here. It is very clear that everyone has their own "binding"
to services. This is quite normal.

I don't know why you bother so much? Has someone cancelled the technologies for collecting information on the provider's nodes?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SORM
No. They collect all the information. They know that I went here and there. So what?
There is a lot of "confidential" and "personal" information on each of us in the nearest HR department.
Where you worked or work. From there, information about you spread to 4 more organizations (pension fund, bank, military registration and enlistment office, medical examination (hospital), etc.)
And without your consent.
Smartphones with a list of contacts are another channel for leaks. The address book in the phone is read by many applications.
You are in the bank, in a taxi, in a credit history, in the military registration and enlistment office, in a marketplace, on CCTV cameras (when you walk the streets).
If you use a smartphone, then everything is even more fun.
I do not use a smartphone, I do not have accounts on any TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, etc., except for YouTube.
If YouTube is "locked", I will get used to this too. I listen to all the music through YouTube.

Banking - only for utility payments and receiving a salary. Everything only through FreeBSD and Falkon.
Buying goods online: very rarely. I place orders through a regular call.
The postal service also knows my data.
Yes, they know my phone. And yours too. And if I see that the "critical mass" (SPAM in the form of SMS, calls from fraudulent call centers, etc.)
has gotten on my nerves, I just throw the SIM card in the toilet. That's it. A SIM card lasts me 2-3 years before it reaches the "garbage level".
I don't do anything illegal via the Internet. The Tor browser is enough for me to view part of the Russian Internet.
And I also often see many technical sites from Europe only through TOR.

Is porn still on the open Internet? Right?
Why is no one fighting porn on the open Internet? And why doesn't the cyber police ban porn sites en masse? Don't they know the addresses?
Is this normal? Why do porn stars receive practically official nominations and Oscars?

But, for example, in some countries, the extremist feminist lobby is very strong. Try to offer a woman to watch together
the same regular porn (open access, even without 18+ verification) and you will get a term and go to jail. Just for the offer.
Or send her your dick on Viber - jail.
 
USerID said:
Many people write interesting comments here. It is very clear that everyone has their own "binding"
to services. This is quite normal.

I don't know why you bother so much? Has someone cancelled the technologies for collecting information on the provider's nodes?
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There are vpn providers like mullvad. They do not require any information when you are registering for their service. You pay with crypto, they generate random number for you, and you use that number to log into their servers. No credit card info, no user names, no emails or phone numbers. Nothing. This way your isp cant see anything, and vpn provider has no clue who you are.
USerID said:
There is a lot of "confidential" and "personal" information on each of us in the nearest HR department.
Where you worked or work. From there, information about you spread to 4 more organizations (pension fund, bank, military registration and enlistment office, medical examination (hospital), etc.)
And without your consent.
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Thats not how it works in my country.
USerID said:
Smartphones with a list of contacts are another channel for leaks. The address book in the phone is read by many applications. You are in the bank, in a taxi, in a credit history, in the military registration and enlistment office, in a marketplace, on CCTV cameras (when you walk the streets).
If you use a smartphone, then everything is even more fun.
I do not use a smartphone, I do not have accounts on any TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, etc., except for YouTube.
If YouTube is "locked", I will get used to this too. I listen to all the music through YouTube.

Banking - only for utility payments and receiving a salary. Everything only through FreeBSD and Falkon.
Buying goods online: very rarely. I place orders through a regular call.
The postal service also knows my data.
Yes, they know my phone. And yours too. And if I see that the "critical mass" (SPAM in the form of SMS, calls from fraudulent call centers, etc.)
has gotten on my nerves, I just throw the SIM card in the toilet. That's it. A SIM card lasts me 2-3 years before it reaches the "garbage level".
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Not only my phone is completely rooted, degoogled, and debloated, im off the internet on my phone 90% of the time. And even if i have to use internet, i have my wireguard vpn active that uses my opnsense box as an exit node. You cant trust smart phones PERIOD. People that shill for apple or android have no idea what they are doing.
USerID said:
I don't do anything illegal via the Internet. The Tor browser is enough for me to view part of the Russian Internet.
And I also often see many technical sites from Europe only through TOR.
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Tor project is going down the drain lately. They disabled user agent masking. They have BGP issues and tons of other problems that can compromise you online.
USerID said:
Is porn still on the open Internet? Right?
Why is no one fighting porn on the open Internet? And why doesn't the cyber police ban porn sites en masse? Don't they know the addresses?
Is this normal? Why do porn stars receive practically official nominations and Oscars?

But, for example, in some countries, the extremist feminist lobby is very strong. Try to offer a woman to watch together
the same regular porn (open access, even without 18+ verification) and you will get a term and go to jail. Just for the offer.
Or send her your dick on Viber - jail.
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Why are we talking about this ? Comon man.
 
I don't know if you two realize it, but you are making a nice case for regulating the internet...
 
drhowarddrfine said:
In the same manner that all worldwide radio and television frequencies are regulated now. In the USA that might be under the FCC. I forgot which organization manages international frequencies.

EDIT: Oh. Of course. It's the ITU but I'm not sure that would be appropriate. It might need to be an entirely different and new organization. Same with the FCC.
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Sounds to me like yet another dystopian nightmare!
 
Let's not forget that Internet is an invention that Uncle Sam created? Specifically, US Army, Department of Defense (Yep, the one that Trump wants to rename to Department of War!). Does anyone remember the original DARPA net? Yep, the one that Al Gore paid for.

Uninformed trolls are gonna mock Al Gore's role in creating the Internet, but y'know, it is thanks to Al Gore that US Army even had the money to pay for all those wires.

If we did not have all those wires running on the ocean floor, if we did not have all those bright minds (who developed the signal processing to the point that communication on Internet is possible) paid for, we wouldn't have Internet as we know it. There's all this hardware and infrastructure to maintain. And that costs money, it ain't free.

Kind of like a paid park vs a free-of-charge park: A paid park has more rigid rule enforcement, but it's also cleaner and safer. It's easier to get funding to maintain a paid park than one that is free-of-charge.

Just like rank-and-file users say, "I paid for my computer, I control what I install on it", a government can say, "I paid for the wires that make up the Internet, I get to control what's happening on those wires". If I can't control what I paid for, that's just less motivation to pay for it in the first place.

Kind of like a work computer - you get one for free, you personally don't exactly get to control what's installed on that machine, that's up to the employer. A home computer is a different matter.
 
USerID said:
.onion ?
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I dont understand your question ??

Tor browser (before updates) never exposed your real operating system information. It didnt matter what operating system you were using, you were always identified as a Windows 10 user on Firefox.

Today, if you are running tor browser on linux, server will see that you are using linux, and it will even tell if you are using x11 or wayland. This way, you stand out among millions of other tor users. If three letter agencies are out there to get you, they have you narrowed down to linux users only. Until recently, this was easy to fix by going to about:settings and reenabling user agent masking, but again, they updated tor browser, and hardcoded user agent masking to disabled and they are ignoring custom parameter. This behaviour clearly shows intent to destroy your privacy at all costs.

There is no way around this. And before some "privacy experts" jump in and say "just install user masking agent plugin" please stop. Installing browser plugins also makes you stand out which makes it even easier to hunt you down because browser is exposing the list of installed plugins.
 
MrBSD said:
Thats not how it works in my country.
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The HR department transmits your key information about you to other institutional organizations.
You pay taxes - they have your personal data.
You are registered in the medical information system - they have your personal data.
You receive a salary or remuneration for work - they have your personal data.
You drive a car, etc.
In the modern world, it is impossible to be even 50% confidential.
I closed myself only 20-25% and I do not need more. If Falkon could close 95% of advertising on YouTube - I would consider that I have achieved a lot.
All the same, my "personal" information is in the hands of many organizations.
Sooner or later, there will be "another" leak from the data centers of millions of accounts. Someone will get a buck.
And these will not necessarily be idiots from a cyber-group in Guy Fawkes masks and with hoods on their heads. This will be done LEGALLY, as they once leaked all the client data from the so-called medical information system to the largest mobile operator in Ukraine.
https://inforesist.org/ua/zhurnalis...kovi-stylistky-kvartal-95-za-chastku-v-helsi/

That's it. The entire leak of information is already operating within the legal framework.

ALL messengers are UNDER the special services, almost all digital content is UNDER the state punitive system.
I, you, we are UNDER control.
If someone wants to hide, then it is temporary and not for long.
I regularly read info-security news. This is much, much, much sadder!

Look how quickly they catch such fools. All the idiots in Ukraine were caught in Telegram and the "super-protected" messenger Signal.

"Digital people" have become avatars and infantiles. Nepal of our days is a "facade" dismantling of the government system. The customer is ? The performer is generation "Z". Fanatics of digital feces burned down buildings to increase the profits of the owners of social networks, billionaires, and raised the ratings and shares of YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.
Several dozen fanatics died in clashes. The rulers and pharaohs will build other palaces in Kathmandu with taxpayers' money and will rule you again.
What did you die for, "digital idiot-zoomer"? ... only your mother cries.
 
MrBSD said:
There is no way around this.
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I completely agree.
That's why I don't see the point in violating anything and hiding behind dozens of VPNs. One American mathematician (there was an article online) formulated
his security paradigm, which in general terms sounded like "refusal to password protect Wi-Fi" and "refusal to encrypt at all".
I don't remember where this article was and what the mathematician's name was, but I liked his concept.
Yes, with the level of hacking of Wi-Fi whistles and irons, you can become an unwitting participant, for example, in a DDoS attack, but that's why I am absolutely against the Internet of things.
If (let's dream) the Internet were only on a PC, server and laptop/netbook, then many problems would not exist at all.
But the point of no return has been passed: now every iron broadcasts and every coffee machine is a server. I am absolutely against this approach.
I am also against the Internet in a phone/tablet/gadget. In my opinion, a phone should only receive/transmit voice.
The ideal phone is a regular Panasonic landline phone.
And we created our own problems, and now we are solving them. THAT'S CONVENIENT!!! :) We cannot leave the comfort zone. Therefore, I am looking for either X, or Wayland, or other convenient nonsense. I am also accustomed to convenience. I do not deny it.
We ourselves created a society of COLLECTIVE DETECTIVE! Do you understand? No?
Once again, I want people to think about it: we ourselves voluntarily created a system of collective and public detection.
In the cities, there are already surveillance cameras that determine your nationality.
I will not even talk about Chinese ratings.
Therefore, I am very sympathetic to the security paradigm of this American mathematician.
 
The main issue is the fact that majority of people have sacrificed their privacy for convenience. I have no issue with iot stuff. I use tons of it. However, none of my devices have access to internet. They are isolated on their own local vlan network, and they are all controlled by home assistant that i selfhost and control with my degoogled phone using wireguard vpn that connects to my opsense box. Unfortunately, this setup is too complex for average Joe. And its not even about complexity really. I demonstrated my iot setup to my friends, they like it, but they just dont care. I even offered to build them same network as mine FOR FREE. They only had to invest money in equipment. None of them wanted it. It is their choice and their mindset that can not be changed and this is, unfortunately, how majority of people are thinking.

Also, speaking of phones. Freebsd forums were the last place where i would expect apple shills to show up. But unfortunately, this place is infested with them as well. The worst part about is the audacity of those people to preach about privacy and security while they write their posts from their iphones. Its a crazy world we live in.
 
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