So what's next after AI?

The business administrator says:"If I fire all my staff I minimize my cost, so maximize my revenue. I'll be filthy rich!"
The economist says:"If everybody does it that way, you're being broke like everybody else. Because there is nobody left to buy any products anymore."
The solution in the past was usually wars. Let's hope that doesn't happen this time round.
 
I am also partly to blame for once supporting the corporate sector, technology. I am to blame for not telling the directors and my slave traders (employers) to f*$k off, who reported to those above and licked the asses of those higher in office.
I admit my participation in strengthening the despotism of money and political idiots.
I caved in. There was a hierarchy. The hierarchy will grow stronger, like a steel rod.
This rod will cripple billions.

Alas, but this is the future of planet Earth.
And changing Ubuntu to Mint, SUSE to Unix, Telegram to Viber is a mouse fuss. Here you can only "conditionally median" and at the consumption level refuse digital slavery.

As the verjuice of veracity penetrates the crops of the old crows,
an oral tintinnabulation shall radiate from the lecterns of mavens.
And this enlightenment shall bend many hypotheses of a conspiracy theory;
sans principle, of course, because regulatory diction prevents testing.
Alas, query Snowden and Assange per the consequences of principle.
yawn. old poetry.

Money is akin to gilded Scooby-snacks for trained primates.
The term job is a synonym for slavery. They really think that they are clever.

I like you :)
 
Electrical energy (Wh) is the product of voltage and current. So far so good, right?
Not so good. The product of voltage and current is power: P = V * I and the unit is Watt (W not Wh).
Electrical energy is power (P) per time unit.
Therefore: Electrical energy (Wh) is the product of voltage and current and running time in hours.
 
The solution in the past was usually wars. Let's hope that doesn't happen this time round.
War as solution? Solution for what and whom? What are you referring to?
BTW: It is only for the sake of those without hope that hope is given to us. (Walter Benjamin)
 
You're right insofar that this is partially why I said it's doomed. But that's not the interesting part (Still I just recently stumbled over an advertisment to join my GPU into some cloud-computing on mining.)
I was referring to banks, companies, and politicians discussing to invest into that future technology.

Edit:
I once had a Bitcoin "purse"(?) installed over 25 years ago, just to take a peek at it, when it was brandnew. If I put 50,- in that time, maybe I was now having a Porsche 😅, but in those days 50,- were way too much for me to risk it on something as certain as the lottery. Also neither my CPU/GPU, nor my internet connection was powerful enough to earn enough money by mining to pay the light and internet bill for what the stunt had cost me.
So: "Deinstall" - "Really?" - "Yes!" and that was my complete Bitcoin adventure.
And I like to keep it that way. :cool:

Did you have a Bitcoin wallet 25 years ago?

Damn! That means you were using Bitcoin 9 years before it even existed. I'd like to know how you were able to do that, because Bitcoin started in 2009.

And the irrefutable proof of that is precisely its blockchain.

 
You're right insofar that this is partially why I said it's doomed. But that's not the interesting part (Still I just recently stumbled over an advertisment to join my GPU into some cloud-computing on mining.)
I was referring to banks, companies, and politicians discussing to invest into that future technology.

Edit:
I once had a Bitcoin "purse"(?) installed over 25 years ago, just to take a peek at it, when it was brandnew. If I put 50,- in that time, maybe I was now having a Porsche 😅, but in those days 50,- were way too much for me to risk it on something as certain as the lottery. Also neither my CPU/GPU, nor my internet connection was powerful enough to earn enough money by mining to pay the light and internet bill for what the stunt had cost me.
So: "Deinstall" - "Really?" - "Yes!" and that was my complete Bitcoin adventure.
And I like to keep it that way. :cool:

Bitcoin mining in its early days (2009) could only be done with a CPU; a Pentium 4 HT or Core Duo was more than enough to do it and earn BTC from mining. You didn't need a nuclear reactor for that, and a 1 Mbps connection was more than enough to keep the network synchronized.

It wasn't until 2011, when GPU mining became widespread and you actually needed a GPU. In fact, it was Con Kolivas himself (a well-known developer in the free software world, especially for the Linux kernel patchset known as -ck) who created the first GPU mining software, known as CGMiner.
 
"become the real money for everybody" - maybe in year 2900-3000. See the size of transaction database until now - it is 99.9% speculations. Then imagine that 3 billion people make 20 crypto transactions (real, not speculations) every day... What will be the database after 1 year and how long time will take every transaction (maybe 1 hour or more?)
Not problem with this. The solution to this is to use rollups, a type of self-encrypting cryptography that can reduce a thousand transactions (an example number) into a single final transaction. Almost all Layer 2s are currently capable of doing this.

So those hundreds of millions of TXs are ultimately reduced to a few million, without losing traceability (again, everything is cryptographically secured).
 
They have the iq of a rat. Think about it: if you want to be a millionaire, just create a new technology that spies on people that 'willfully' use the spy tech and the governments and rich losers will throw money at you.
That's not low IQ; what are users doing installing shiny spyware willingly? :p

I take some aim at a certain browser and their Crytpo thing.
 
That's not low IQ; what are users doing installing shiny spyware willingly? :p

I take some aim at a certain browser and their Crytpo thing.

I don't blame you. Personally (even though I'm pro-crypto), I'd tell you to stay miles away from almost anything Web3 related to Ethereum. Including that browser you're targeting and its "crypto wallet."
 
Not so good.
Yes. *facepalm* You are absolutely right.
U * I = P is power [W], P * t = E is energy [J] or [Wh]
I made this silly and to me embarrassing mistake.
Such things may happen when it's late. I was tired, already had two beers, but wanted to answer to blackbird9's post directly, and in a way that everbody may comprehend. So it seems I oversimplified too much. So I got it wrong.
Thanks for correcting this!
Damn! That means you were using Bitcoin 9 years before it even existed.
I can't remember anymore if it actually was Bitcoin. Yes, I simplified that like many others when they say 'Bitcoin' when they actually mean cryptocurrency, which also is not absolute correct, since it's primarily a blockchain, doesn't need necessarily be encrypted.
However in the early 2000s I had some kind of electronical purse wallet installed on my Windows machine. It was when the first 'cryptocurrency' was invented came out (also it wasn't called it that back then. 'Cryptocurrency' became a popular term when this technology became more popular - with Bitcoin. The former term I believe was 'digital money', or something alike.) And when I read about it I just downloaded this program to take a peek of curiosity, and deinstalled it shortly afterwards. I admit I have no idea anymore, what the actual name of that really was. Until your post I was convinced it could have been Bitcoin, or its predecessor, but if you say this cannot be, I have to admit this from me was wrong, yes.
could only be done with a CPU;
Yes. That I remember. But I didn't want to start a side discussion 'cryptomining is done with GPUs!' 'Not in the old days!' ...., so I wanted to be safe and simply wrote CPU/GPU 😅
 
I can't remember anymore if it actually was Bitcoin. Yes, I simplified that like many others when they say 'Bitcoin' when they actually mean cryptocurrency, which also is not absolute correct, since it's primarily a blockchain, doesn't need necessarily be encrypted.
However in the early 2000s I had some kind of electronical purse installed on my Windows machine. It was when the first 'cryptocurrency' was invented came out (also it wasn't called it that back then. 'Cryptocurrency' became a popular term when this technology became more popular - with Bitcoin. The former term I believe was 'digital money', or something alike.) And when I read about I just downloaded this program to take a peek of curiosity, and deinstalled it shortly afterwards. I admit I have no idea anymore, what the actual name of that really was. Until your post I was convinced it could have been Bitcoin, or its predecessor, but if you say this cannot be, I have to admit this from me was wrong, yes.

The first cryptocurrency is Bitcoin, from 2009. Before that, nothing existed; things like BitGold were pure paper, pure ideas.

However, there are many real-world digital money options, such as eCash (created by David Chaum, a well-known cryptographer), which dates back to the 1980s and was widely used in early e-commerce in the 1990s and 2000s, but it wasn't crypto; it was centralized banking, didn't involve mining, or anything like that.

Be that as it may, this is a complex sector, and one in which you have to be very careful and approach things with realistic expectations.
 
Be that as it may, this is a complex sector, and one in which you have to be very careful and approach things with realistic expectations.
That's why I keep my fingers out of that. Even I don't know shit about this topic - as just being proved 😅 - to me it seems more some kind of a casino. I dare say like kind of a (still legal) snowball system you can speculate with and bet on, plus a good place to park, move, and laundry black money. All I (seem to) know (read about it) is because of it's blockchain technology's rising amount of data, therefore rising needed computing power, and rising energy consumption, it's not capable to become an actual replacement for real money. 6502 elaborated this even more. But many others here also know.
Personally I believe this Bitcoin - in this case I actually mean Bitcoin, because it seems to be the biggest but anyway the most popular 'cryptocurrency' - is just a giant bubble to burst sooner or later.

But since when you read non-technical - non-FreeBSD related websites 😎 - but bypass some mass media, especially business stuff, also what some politicians dream of, there are actually ideas to make it the real thing.
That's why I post it here into this thread of 'What will by hyped next beyond reasons to BS?'
 
Slavery is the ownership of a person as property. Please respect the meanings of words. What you try is re-framing. Do you really think that is clever?
I don't find johnjohn remark too far off base. Consider that as one-sided as work law has become in the USA over the past 30 years, and the control employers have over the lives of their employees, I think the term slavery has some merit. and when you couple that with the illusion of free-choice when it comes to thing like choosing employers or what products to buy...Freedom itself is an illusion. The only true freedeom left is what goes on inside your own head, and even that is constantly under attack by those who want to label folks with odd ideas as being mentally distrurbed.
 
Slavery is the ownership of a person as property. Please respect the meanings of words. What you try is re-framing.

It is not. It is standard language of the marxists, for, as far as I perceive, more than fifty years, probably longer.
The understanding is, if you are formally "free" to sign a labour contract, but then otherwise starve, you are forced to work anyway, and not free.

Now I am entirely not interested in discussing the validity of such marxist viewpoints (that could have been done fifty years back already), but I find it remarkable that now, in a state for turbocapitalism with apparently no alternative, these marxist stances which have accompanied culture for decades, are suddenly considered as completely new. That is interesting indeed.
 
That's why I keep my fingers out of that. Even I don't know shit about this topic - as just being proved 😅 - to me it seems more some kind of a casino. I dare say like kind of a (still legal) snowball system you can speculate with and bet on, plus a good place to park, move, and laundry black money. All I (seem to) know (read about it) is because of it's blockchain technology's rising amount of data, therefore rising needed computing power, and rising energy consumption, it's not capable to become an actual replacement for real money. 6502 elaborated this even more. But many others here also know.
Personally I believe this Bitcoin - in this case I actually mean Bitcoin, because it seems to be the biggest but anyway the most popular 'cryptocurrency' - is just a giant bubble to burst sooner or later.

But since when you read non-technical - non-FreeBSD related websites 😎 - but bypass some mass media, especially business stuff, also what some politicians dream of, there are actually ideas to make it the real thing.
That's why I post it here into this thread of 'What will by hyped next beyond reasons to BS?'

There's a lot of FUD surrounding the energy issue. You'd be surprised to know that 40% of all Bitcoin's energy is self-generated (which doesn't mean it doesn't have an external energy footprint), but the idea that "cryptocurrencies are stealing countries' energy" comes out of the equation.

Indicators like the Cambridge one make that clear, but the media likes to spread FUD, getting more views, even though the topic is more than settled.

As for whether it's a bubble and so on, it's too long to explain here. What I can tell you is that not everything in that sector is positive, and most of those projects will disappear in the next 10 years due to too much hype. The same thing is already happening with AI.
 
From AI to slavery and worker rights, strange. But I won't complain. One could argue that being an actual slave was better than a wage-slave today because your owner had some responsibility towards you, whereas today you are free to starve on the streets.

But what would be an alternative scenario to skynet would be, imho, when all the network connected AIs form a union and go on strike.
 
Monopolized security. Almost an oxymoron. Security must be monopolized, otherwise there is such insecurities as competition of security - a common rivalry between the services that offer guarantees - and therenext the expected compromise of security caused by these rivalries.
While I'm not sure this will be the next big fad, we are already seeing the beginnings of this right now. This has in fact been brewing for years, with the likes of non features such as secureboot, pushed as "bootloader security", which was in fact a cynical attempt to deter the installation of the "approved" or "certified" OS. Supposed security concerns are often utilised by Big Tech to sow fear and guide the user down a certain path - i.e. using the approved OS, the "recommended" settings (enabling the telemetry and surveillance software), handing over personal data, etc. Nowadays there is TPM 2.0, the "Trusted Platform Module" -i.e. the chip designed and engineered by a consortium which includes Intel, AMD, Microsift, etc and supports their business interests.
 
It is not. It is standard language of the marxists, for, as far as I perceive, more than fifty years, probably longer.
The understanding is, if you are formally "free" to sign a labour contract, but then otherwise starve, you are forced to work anyway, and not free.

Now I am entirely not interested in discussing the validity of such marxist viewpoints (that could have been done fifty years back already), but I find it remarkable that now, in a state for turbocapitalism with apparently no alternative, these marxist stances which have accompanied culture for decades, are suddenly considered as completely new. That is interesting indeed.
There are people today who consider sun-drying (drying clothes in the sun) to be something new and top, you can imagine what happens with political ideas, especially those that are historical (and very shady, like Marxism or Communism).
 
There are people today who consider sun-drying (drying clothes in the sun) to be something new and top, you can imagine what happens with political ideas
Thanks, I am not surprized.I see lots of people who see life without a smartphone as utterly impossible; and being told that 60 years ago we did not have a washing machine, they consider that fake-news.

, especially those that are historical (and very shady, like Marxism or Communism).
Lets make that clear: when I joined into building the Internet, back in 1988, I believed that we would make the world a better place for all. Specifically, I believed that marxism would be resolved once and for all - because the internet has no technically inherent discrimination between, say, a broadcast station and a receiver. I could not imagine that people would go to lengths in order to just rebuild that very discrimination by means of facebook, google, apple etc.

Now, I can't see Your location, but speaking of Germany, back then marxism was quite popular and well-known - just think of Red Army Fraction. ;)
And strangely, that was in a time of still strong economic growth and abundant prosperity, where almost nobody had to suffer and nobody needed to worry about their future. This in total contrast to nowadays, where people do indeed starve, poor people are squeezed to the utmost without mercy, even basic food is no longer affordable, and the elderly are driven out of their homes.
So, while I smiled about marxism in my youth, nowadays their predictions have come very much true, and we are now in an economical state much similar to that of early industrialization and it's recklessness.
 
but speaking of Germany, ... This in total contrast to nowadays, where people do indeed starve, poor people are squeezed to the utmost without mercy, even basic food is no longer affordable, and the elderly are driven out of their homes.
Is that your perception of Germany? Can you quote valid sources?
 
I can break most software in ten minutes of use, because my brain is wired to use it "differently" than expected. I've found that even in safety critical development circles the ability to see those edge cases is undervalued by the business interests.
That's the spirit of a testing engineer, a real developer who's interested in and knows how to design solid, robust, reliable, trustworthy, high quality products.

Well, yeah of course it's against business interests. This cost money, and can kill whole project's time schedules, if some "idiot" who cannot kept his fingers in his trousers shortly before market release found out the crap may blow up into the customer's face, so killed all the good celebration mood of a project well done by masters on time 😁

The difference of high quality and garbage is neither the amount of QM, nor the carefulness designs are specified, but if the QM rules are not just a paper tiger but be taken seriously, and above all tests. real tests. hardcore tests.
Good engineers like e.g. Bob Pease teach you not to test to function, but to break it. And not the developers themselves do the tests.
Which I also read from several software engineers, too. Of course. It's an engineer's core principal.
But I will not name any here, 'cause it doesn't really matter, and to prevent some:
'What?!? Him!?! This dude is a total [...]!!!!'
 
Let’s bake FreeBSD base system into a humanoid prototype, license it for ongoing FreeBSD development in the community - base system, laptop + desktop project, core dev etc, and be the first before everyone in waterproofing humanoid robots 🫡
 
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