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Weeell, hold on a second. Some of us use open source software specifically because this cannot happen against the will of a sufficient fanbase of such software. You can never really take it away. The issue at hand here is that software with...

Well, my nurse relatives never told me that but bgavin you're right they're too busy.

mer, yeah, abiword is alive and kicking. Just for the heck of it, I did, on a vm that doesn't have too much on it, just X, openbox and maybe featherpad which I use to test Japanese in QT apps, pkg install abiword and got abiword: 3.0.5_15...

My sons and I worked out with George Turner As that video calls him "World Class Body Building Legend" and I witnessed some of the stories including getting thrown out. If you want to lose weight but maintain mass, here's George's diet. And...

Beyond pushing pills most doctors are too busy or too clueless. Ask any experienced nurse how often she had to intervene to keep the doctor from killing their patient. Skip the carbs, processed foods and all sugars. Mediterranean diet with...

I found myself surprisingly more healthy by replacing getting comfort food delivered to my door with cooking the exact same thing myself. I'm not sure exactly why. I suppose it may have to do with doing smaller portions, and/or putting less salt...

Besides, FreeBSD is not child's play, it's a serious operating system without any kind of "app store" :D I'm not worried... In fact, if children used FreeBSD (or even Linux) on a daily basis, there would be far fewer problems in the world in 1-2...

If you hang around the open source world, or really computers in general long enough, you'll have favorite pieces of software that get discontinued for one reason or another. If you're lucky, it can be run in an emulator or container, for most of...

IIRC, it was this one: View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4TZxj-Dq7s&t=576s it's from a conference.

FWIW we are in agreement in our distaste for removing software just because upstream hasn't be changed in a while. There is such a thing as finished software.

These binaries have the setuid bit on. The sooner we remove them, the better.

Besides, FreeBSD is not child's play, it's a serious operating system without any kind of "app store" :D I'm not worried... In fact, if children used FreeBSD (or even Linux) on a daily basis, there would be far fewer problems in the world in 1-2...

FWIW we are in agreement in our distaste for removing software just because upstream hasn't be changed in a while. There is such a thing as finished software.

IIRC, it was this one: View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4TZxj-Dq7s&t=576s it's from a conference.

Do you have a source? I'm curious how long their delay is or any details about their update process! Edit: Below vid 10:52 has a slide with "Merge upstream from FreeBSD-current every 3 weeks"

Which is why you have companies like Netflix using current, just on a bit of a delay. The delay allows them to avoid installs when there's an issue that was later discovered with current and by using current, it makes it a lot easier for them to...

I don't want to argue too much because I understand sometimes there are other reasons as you point out. When I tested xdialog though it did run. I was trying to make a GUI for FuryBSD using bsdinstall, and I wanted to do use xdialog to make a...

I am also not aware, but they care much more on security than FreeBSD and lpd is still there. And lpd has the flag -s for those concerned on the IP connection, one can use it locally. It is a program that was always there, since the beginning of...

Which is why you have companies like Netflix using current, just on a bit of a delay. The delay allows them to avoid installs when there's an issue that was later discovered with current and by using current, it makes it a lot easier for them to...

Tererible news. They could copy the lpr/lpd of OpenBSD, but not leave us without it.

Developers will give you side looks whatever you use, anyway. :) "Oh, you're using Next.js rather than Nuxt.js. I see…". The funny part is that people assume that if you use CGI, you must be writing webapps like we're in the 90s. They often BSOD...

It's just my opinion, but if it hasn't got a maintainer it's a lot less likely that any issues will be noticed, I'd be curious as to how many people were even using it if it being pulled didn't result in anybody that cared enough to step up and...

In the case of sheepshaver, it was still building. There were just no changes so by a policy it was removed. I also verified once with xdialog that it still built at the time, but was just removed by a policy. I found an older version of the...

I'd wager that if anybody had been/is willing to do the work they probably would, but how many people are even using that still? And of those, how many are going to put in the effort rather than just replace the printer they've got with one...

I was not aware OpenBSD may have newer code. Thanks. I will have to look into this.

Somebody has to maintain the ports, even if 98% of the works is just pulling them in an updating the port that's still some effort. And a bunch of these systems are being used as servers, having something like the lpd/lpr available, but not...

I apologize I did not mean to be condescending or for it to be taken that way. I mainly meant I've been using FreeBSD for over 20 years. I'm actually only 42 so I'm not really that old. I just feel old. :)

My great-grandfather sadly died at the age of 99-3/4. He had lived by himself (in a 5th floor apartment) for dozens of years. He liked to drink Schnapps (old German), smoke cigars, and play the guitar. And make dirty jokes. He hated most of the...

My sons and I worked out with George Turner As that video calls him "World Class Body Building Legend" and I witnessed some of the stories including getting thrown out. If you want to lose weight but maintain mass, here's George's diet. And...

It's not finished software if it still has security issues.

Tererible news. They could copy the lpr/lpd of OpenBSD, but not leave us without it.

I eat sushi almost every day. Except on weekends, when I'm not working.

This is what I tried to stick, the lists were reviewed by me several times. ## Low‑FODMAP, gluten‑free, diabetes‑friendly foods — expanded and double‑checked Notes: I used Monash-tested/accepted low‑FODMAP choices and excluded high‑glycemic...

You have to use HTML for every web page. If you want to do anything beyond that, you have to use CSS and Javascript. There is no HTML5. This is what we generally did for 20 years. We did bespoke web sites so weren't beholding to any framework...

Not really. It's just this growing mentality I wish I could get others to see my way that unchanging software does not have to be removed, but I know it's futile. The world is changing around me and at some point, I'll just have to accept, move...

After a career as a webdev using the things we were supposed to use, going through PHP, then Ruby on Rails, then Node.js, then Golang, then Python/Flask - and the same on frontend: Mootools, then jQuery, then Angular, then React… I took the...

It's not the sky is falling. It's just that it could simply be packaged into an optional base pkg or port for people to use it they want. Rather than just code gone. It doesn't have to be removed so if people want to use it they can. It's...

The sky may not be falling but the concept of the FreeBSD 'base' sure is ;)

I see this will lead to even more cleaning house. This is how it starts. I can't just hard fork FreeBSD either because then age verification will be my problem. Humanity is doomed.

The last time I used these was at University (and to schedule/play music during a hackathon rather than print documents). I am surprised these are any less maintained than much of the BSD userland to be fair.

And if you concerned about security just don't install it? Why does the rest of the world who doesn't care have to suffer?

No big secret. I was doing karate and became interested in Japanese culture and language. At that time, mid 1990's I made many Japanese friends as there were, more than now, a lot of Japanese large and small businesses. (I worked in an office...

Yes, Chinese would be VERY helpful for kanji. Back when I could read a lot more of it, I remember trying to figure out a martial arts book, and a friend's Chinese friend saw some of it and was able to explain it to us (my friend couldn't figure...

It's not finished software if it still has security issues.

Yes and yes.

Yes and yes.

Yes, Chinese would be VERY helpful for kanji. Back when I could read a lot more of it, I remember trying to figure out a martial arts book, and a friend's Chinese friend saw some of it and was able to explain it to us (my friend couldn't figure...

No big secret. I was doing karate and became interested in Japanese culture and language. At that time, mid 1990's I made many Japanese friends as there were, more than now, a lot of Japanese large and small businesses. (I worked in an office...

Preface: I'm not talking about dietary habits related to religous reasons. Kind of tied into ralphbsz I think one can do everything possible from birth to "be clean/eat clean". Eat this don't eat this don't drink this drink only that...