Neither GTK nor QT have anything to do with this "Linux-only" stuff.UNIXgod said:What other options are there over gtk and qt?
In case of Gnome it's the (proposed) dependency on systemd that would make Gnome Linux-only, not it's use of GTK.
Neither GTK nor QT have anything to do with this "Linux-only" stuff.UNIXgod said:What other options are there over gtk and qt?
2) As I understand, it is not like its too hard to support both BSD, Solaris and Linux
That was what I meant.But the valid question is, why should a X11 based desktop environment do anything with system scripts?
nekoexmachina said:As for me, KDE3 this time is one and only really usefull, full and good DE.
I plan to be on the programming level right enough to have KDE3 working till the giant changes will go into the FBSD source tree (which I do not believe).Perhaps about 3 years tops and then you will be forced to make do with slow bloated "modern" desktop environments.
expl said:In last couple of years Linux community became really fat with users and a lot of commercial projects and companies sprang up to accommodate them. Even the biggest opensource projects like GNOME are getting financed by these commercial 3rd parties to keep the gears rolling. And its pretty easy to understand that its not worth supporting (financially) other platforms than the ones that most of your users are using.
This "GNOME to drop non-Linux support" sensationalism on the net is ridiculous. There has been no such proposal! Yes, I RTFA and the full mailing list discussions.
The proposal in GNOME's desktop-devel-list was by the author and maintainer of systemd to let GNOME adopt systemd as the mechanism to configure certain system-wide settings, like locale and timezone data. This would be implemented as a dbus interface which would spawn a mini-daemon via systemd when that was required. This would solve the age old problem of every distro having their own slight variation on how to configure these things.
Notice the key part of the proposal: the dbus interface. This is the proposed dependency, and not the whole of systemd which, yes is Linux only, but in reality is just a reference implementation for this dbus interface which can be VERY easily reimplemented on any system (the minidaemons themselves are very trivial, porting systemd to other platforms however is not).
What this proposal ACTUALLY means: (a) Non Linux platforms, or Linux distros not yet using systemd, would initially have grayed out certain configuration options in the control center, like locale for example. (b) These settings can be made available just by implementing a trivial dbus interface.
Nothing of this dropping non-Linux OS support nonsense. Hope this clears up the nonsense somewhat
bbzz said:I think FreeBSD developers should concentrate their powers on making FreeBSD system useful and functional. New DE should be last priority.
What this proposal ACTUALLY means: (a) Non Linux platforms, or Linux distros not yet using systemd, would initially have grayed out certain configuration options in the control center, like locale for example. (b) These settings can be made available just by implementing a trivial dbus interface.
Nothing of this dropping non-Linux OS support nonsense. Hope this clears up the nonsense somewhat
I've read that up. I just wonder why the zealots prefer to say FreeBSD hasn't any improvements these years. So what's the improvements on Linux these years?:\UNIXgod said:More babbling from the zealot here:
http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/11/07/16/0020243/Lennart-Poettering-BSD-Isnt-Relevant-Anymore
expl said:People will always find way to make money, even from GNU guys. Kinda ironic.
gkontos said:You couldn't have said it better. Maybe the platonic era of free software is coming to an end since projects get bigger and bigger needs funding.
So Oracle decided that they no longer wanted to have their internal DEVELOPMENT branch, which is what OSOL was, open to the public for obvious reasons. Problem being? They have promised, albeit still need to live up to this promise, to open up the code at a later date. If you were a car-maker would you let all your competitors see the detailed design material for your new models before they were published?Look at the recent example of open solaris, sacrificed by its new foster parents.
mix_room said:Solaris lives on, so it has not been sacrificed.
rockworldmi said:there really should be free bsd DE....and all BSD projects work together making one ...
Crivens said:Damn, I need some new reply to such suggestions which does not involve Duke Nukem or HURD...
How about:
We will have a go at that right after we created world peace, got rid of religious bigots and provided adeqate housing for everyone (including bikesheds).
Okay, so can somebody attach the nickname DE to the upcoming 9.0-RELEASE? That way we can have "FreeBSD (*) DE" but not a whole lot of time needs to be wasted x(rockworldmi said:there really should be free bsd DE....
killasmurf86 said:Call it FreeDE4BSD. or FreeDE