will freebsd15 get Wayland or x11 as default?

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will freebsd15 get Wayland or x11 as default?

i try Q4os6.1 with some issues of monitors and ibus-pinyin.(Wayland status)
when opensuse16, it be ok.(X11 status).（the same PC)

so, what's the choice of freebsd15 ?
 
FreeBSD is developed as a "base OS".

Admins additionally install anything he/she needs via pkg (package management system on FreeBSD and actual packages for it) or building via ports to customize from default. X11, Wayland, desktop envirinments / window managers / compositors running on X11 or Wayland belongs to it among others.

As FreeBSD is licensed under permissive BSD (3 or 2 clause, per source file, excluding some contributed softwares and ports) license, anyone can create their original "distribution" having GUI by default like GhostBSD, deriving from FreeBSD.

Anyone who are developing embedded devices like routers, firewalls and other IoTs would want and does splitting out unused (for the product to be developed) parts of FreeBSD.

Forcing excessive defaults could hurt derived projects like the examples above. So the maximum to be done would be preparing install time option to choose specific sets of GUI environment to be installed as bundled pkgs.
 
To make that a little clearer, FreeBSD's install is just a base system. GUI's are 3rd party stuff, so, after installation, you can choose to install either X or Wayland, using ports or packages. If you get more into FreeBSD, this will make a lot more sense to you.
GhostBSD, a desktop ready system, uses X at present, though I think there is some talk of including Wayland (not sure about that, just did a two minute web search, and it seemed to be in the category of "might, at some point".).

If you like Wayland, it's pretty easy to install and use these days. NapoleonWils0n has some threads on various window managers using it, as well as some youtube videos, if you feel like searching.
 
fmc000 said:
I guess you don't know how freebsd works. The answer is "neither". Or "both".
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Ofc correct, but with a historical caveat; XFree86 used to be part of FreeBSD aeons ago when both ports and packages were in their infancy. X was installed from installer just like any other system component such as compat libs.

I do not remember at what point, but I was already an user when X got moved out from the base distribution.
 
Since this "FreeBSD with GUI by default" question occurs here in one or the other way every couple of weeks it could be part of FAQs, or forum rules.
 
Zare said:
Ofc correct, but with a historical caveat; XFree86 used to be part of FreeBSD aeons ago when both ports and packages were in their infancy. X was installed from installer just like any other system component such as compat libs.

I do not remember at what point, but I was already an user when X got moved out from the base distribution.
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As far as I can recall (since 2.1.6-Release or 2.2.6-Release), X never a part of base, but sysinstall (prior installer of current bsdinstall) had option to install "packages" (not base "distribution" tarball) included in CD-ROM (at the era, softwares in ports tree were far, far less than currently are, so CD-ROM was almost sufficient) after base installation finished.
 
scottro said:
T-Aoki, yes I remember that, and I am also pretty sure some sort of X was included, probably twm.
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twm is/was the default (sample) window managar of X11.

And at the moment, graphics accelerator (not yet called as GPU!) support by genuine XFree86 was quite poor and proprietary Accelerated X was almost mandatory. If I recall correctly, even specifications of VESA video modes for framebuffers were still under developement.
 
T-Aoki said:
As far as I can recall (since 2.1.6-Release or 2.2.6-Release), X never a part of base, but sysinstall (prior installer of current bsdinstall) had option to install "packages" (not base "distribution" tarball) included in CD-ROM (at the era, softwares in ports tree were far, far less than currently are, so CD-ROM was almost sufficient) after base installation finished.
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Yes I was pedantic to avoid saying it was a part of base ;)

T-Aoki said:
twm is/was the default (sample) window managar of X11.

And at the moment, graphics accelerator (not yet called as GPU!) support by genuine XFree86 was quite poor and proprietary Accelerated X was almost mandatory. If I recall correctly, even specifications of VESA video modes for framebuffers were still under developement.
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I remember Matrox had their own X11 server. I think several other graphics vendors did too.
 
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