Why FreeBSD? Why not Devuan?

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Well, if it was on the main forums, I'd probably say the same thing. But seeing as this is on off-topic, I'd be more charitable.
 
Because just like a quality Snap-On ratchet wrench, they include a bulbous end for better grip.
By the people for the people.
Source included.
 
I will take the bait and say following:

FreeBSD has clearly defined goals and follows standards(POSIX&SUS) its great base for literally everything in computing. Linux doesn't, Linux is a mess for users and developers.
 
This forum is aimed at FreeBSD users. Yeah, there's a fair share of pro-FreeBSD sentiment there, and users will point out why FreeBSD is better than Linux/Devuan in solving certain pain points. But it's probably not the best Internet etiquette manners to push the kind of question that OP is pushing. ?
 
covacat said:
because they say masquerading and we say nat
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On Linux, at least, there's a difference. Here is an excerpt from my iptables based firewall:
Code: 
# Masquarading and SNAT are almost the same.  Masquarading is for 
# when your Internet IP address is transient (PPP or DHCP allocated),
# whereas SNAT is for static IPs.  (Kernel connection tracking
# maintains long term memory for SNAT, but not for masquarading.)

if IsPosNZint "$MASQUERADING"
then
    # All internal traffic is masqueraded externally
    if [ -n "$EXT_STATIC_IP" ]
    then
        iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s $INT_NET  \
            -o $EXT_NIC -j SNAT --to-source $EXT_IP
        Say "SNATing internal network"
    else
        iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s $INT_NET \
            -o $EXT_NIC -j MASQUERADE
        Say "Masquerading internal network"
    fi
fi
 
I don't think that OP was seen again after opening the threat. So why do we take this upon us?
Indeed I would greatly appreciate if this question could be taken to microsoft (after I dumped them in 1990, I have not heard of them again, so I'm a bit curious).

P.S. anybody remember alt.syntax.tactical?
 
bsdion said:
First of all i have no problem with FreeBSD. Just, why BSD? What is Linux not enough for you? Why not Devuan? What is the difference between Devuan and FreeBSD? Is the code environment different? Completely different things...
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I guess I'll attempt to bite this one as I have nothing better to do right now, kinda'....
This question could have a million different answers. I could ask the same thing of you. Why Devuan? Why not Debian? Why not Ubuntu? Why not somewhatevernonamedistro?

bsdion said:
I still don't know if I should choose FreeBSD or Devuan.
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That's the mystery. Quite the dilemma we have here.

bsdion said:
1. I don't like to play games, but occasionally I play Assetto Corsa and ETS2. Apparently, Steam-Proton support is zero.
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Well, if you don't like to play games, you probably wouldn't play any games. Clearly, you like them at least a little bit. It seems like you may not know yourself as well as you thought you did.

bsdion said:
2. How is the init system? I'm using Runit from Linux and it's pretty fast. I want to see which init is in FreeBSD. I can also say that I am obsessed with the init system.
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Init system uses ngInit. I don't get the obsession with the init system.... but I'm not going to ask.

bsdion said:
3. Can Linux programs be run? Here are all the programs I use:

-i3 gaps
-neovim
-lf file manager
-steam
-bottles/wine
-open/libre office
-obs
-kdenlive
-shotcut
-irfanview
-polybar
-open dicom viewer
-tor browser
-qute browser
-firefox
-gimp

I don't know if their ports or packages are available on FreeBSD.
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I don't use all of those, but I have used a fair bit on that list. I wouldn't be surprised if all of them are in the ports tree.

bsdion said:
4. How is the package management? Can I run .deb packages? Are there some kind of package managers like Linux? Is there flatpak support?
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pkg is solid. You can probably run a lot of deb packages on the Linux compatibility layer, but it could be a hit or miss.
As for Flatpak, I haven't tried, but probably not. Why would you want to use Flatpak anyway? You mentioned Devuan and "obsession" on Init system... I'm guessing it's not obsession, but rather hate on systemd bandwagon. In which case, you probably should also not like Flatpak as it introduces a lot of bloat and potentially a lot of redundant libraries... kinda' like systemd in a way.

bsdion said:
5. How is the hardware and driver support? Here are my system specs:

-Ryzen 3600
- GTX 1660ti
-B550 Gigabyte
-Samsung NVMe
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Only potential problems here are probably the GPU and the chipset. I don't have the GPU so can't comment on it, but I do have the chipset. I think the only problematic thing is the bluetooth/WiFi chip.
bsdion said:
6. Is there GPT/UEFI support?
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Yes.

bsdion said:
7. If I install 2 operating systems at the same time, how will I manage the other with FreeBSD?
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Probably grub or even just straight UEFI boot.

bsdion said:
8. Are GNU tools available?
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Yes.

bsdion said:
9. Is the learning curve difficult? It's not hard, I want simple. (like Devuan)
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There is some learning curve, probably more so than your average Linux, but the handbook should help with most issues.

bsdion said:
10. Is there support for Wayland and XWayland?
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Yes.
 
PMc said:
I don't think that OP was seen again after opening the threat. So why do we take this upon us?
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Almost all such questions are this way. It's why we shouldn't allow them at all--or at least close them if the OP doesn't respond within a few days.
They usually only serve one purpose: to ruffle our feathers so the OP can get their jollies.
Otherwise it's good just to not respond to them at all.
 
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