Weird-looking PCs

Mine too! I got the Timex/Sinclair 1000 (US branding for the ZX81) as a birthday present, and then scrimped and saved for months to afford the 16kB RAM booster pack thingy (model 1016) that plugged into the back. Combine with an old cassette tape deck and I was off to the races... my solution to the RAM pack wobble problem was to cram the computer against a wall.

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That guy made too much of the ram pack wobble, I never had very much trouble with mine. I got the home-build kit and rodney zaks sybex "programming the Z80" book all at the same time.😁
 
One more from history. The Jupiter Ace was the worlds first micro with FORTH in ROM, instead of BASIC. The design of the Forth ROM software was excellent. Like the ZX80, this was implemented in discrete TTL, no ULA, and it had the same crappy vacuum moulded polystyrene sheet case, the ultimate cheap build. It came with a demo game called 'worms' that was fun. This was another Z80 machine.

It's a real shame that no-one is making new, innovative stuff like this now, trying new ideas out. Though I guess from a business perspective, it's unlikely to work out nowadays. Even at the time, producing a thing like this was a pretty brave move :)

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They had a transparent screen IBM laptop in that movie.
I saw that movie, but had no idea about THAT... I always thought that was just a digitally generated 'perspective', or creative camera angle, that tries to pretend that somebody is looking up on the other side of the computer's screen... can you please post a screenie from that movie that shows what you're talking about, LibreQuest ?
 
I saw that movie, but had no idea about THAT... I always thought that was just a digitally generated 'perspective', or creative camera angle, that tries to pretend that somebody is looking up on the other side of the computer's screen... can you please post a screenie from that movie that shows what you're talking about, LibreQuest ?
Oh, I think I was thinking of the case! :D

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iplNKzJedaU
 
Apple attempted to make that a reality with iBook back in the day... and it did have CRT monitors that had transparent plastic housing:
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What I was thinking of is more along the lines of 'creative perspective or camera angle' like this:
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Ads for cyber security services make use of such imagery as a persuasion tool - as though a stranger is right behind the computer screen, staring at you as you type out your password. Well, the point of this thread is weird-looking machines that nonetheless fit the pattern of Von Neumann architecture.

For something that is actually from IBM - I googled the term qubit computer, and that search returned images like this:
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Next thing I know, Large Hadron Collider will decide that it's a sentient computer, and will attempt a hostile takeover of Geneva 😂
 
Apple attempted to make that a reality with iBook back in the day... and it did have CRT monitors that had transparent plastic housing:
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What I was thinking of is more along the lines of 'creative perspective or camera angle' like this:
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Ads for cyber security services make use of such imagery as a persuasion tool - as though a stranger is right behind the computer screen, staring at you as you type out your password. Well, the point of this thread is weird-looking machines that nonetheless fit the pattern of Von Neumann architecture.

For something that is actually from IBM - I googled the term qubit computer, and that search returned images like this:
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Next thing I know, Large Hadron Collider will decide that it's a sentient computer, and will attempt a hostile takeover of Geneva 😂
Hey! I have that iMac. Mine is a 1998 transparent blue. I got it to make Mac floppies. I have the 1.4MB floppies and a standard USB drive but it works nicely to make HFS+ formatted disks. :D
 
I just finished this one.
Very nice!
That's one of the ideas I dream myself: A portable machine in a really robust, maybe even waterproof case. You don't need to worry when traveling. Besides you can have all the interfaces of a full mainboard you have lots of space for extensions, battery, and storage (multidrive raidz pools for example). And the capability to modify this modular machine. While with a commercial laptop you're almost fixed limited to what you bought.
Just as an idea: Consider to exchange the mouse by a trackball. It just takes the space it's placed on, but doesn't need no range to run in.
 
i think more computers should be made out of wood, we waste too much metal already
Your concerns are noble. 👍
And I agree cases better be made from recycled plastics, wood, or similar (and there are). While steal tin ain't that bad.

When Apple brought out their first Macbook with a massive aluminium case they actually proudly presented videos showing how it's milled from a massive block (not casted.) App.>85% of the material is removed until the frame is left, and I cried:"o_O Are they mad?!" (They are. But that's another topic. 😁) Sure, it's a very nice case. But the energy needed to recycle all this aluminium chippings is madness.

The cases are of no much consequences. The very electronics, the boards are what use most of the noblest resources. And those are hard to recycle: very energy consuming, so expensive, so it's way cheaper to dump it all on landfills in countries we look down at, and think how dirty they are. Just duckduckgo for pictures "electronics landfill africa."
You don't need to only see the bare resources themselves. Furthermore the amount of energy needed to produce, manufacture, transport, and recycle are what concerns.

Switching to more environmental friendly, resources saving materials is right. But as long as our economy ain't interested in devices being used as long as possible, but there are such things like planned obsolescence, those are just marketing stunts, letters of indulgence, just to give everybody a good feeling about how exemplary "green" we are, buying even more, slightly more greener things. While neither the things nor we are, but in fact trashing up the planet even more.

My #1 example at this point are printers.
The new models are advertised with lower energy consumption, and lower CO2 emission. While their production and transportation eat up magnitudes of what you will save in its lifetime.
You use it for two to three years. Then this bugger also starts to mither you with fantasy-error-bullshit, until after four or five years you are close to throw that annoying piece of shit out of the window. So you buy a new one. And of course - naturally - any of your cartridges left won't fit into the new one anymore. And maybe another cable is needed,... But it feels so very good to buy and have a new, smooth, errorless working device again.
Until in two or three years the shit starts all over again. While technically the device is tip-top. It could last ten, fifteen, twenty years - then saving resources, and CO2.
By now I don't know a single study estimates the price you pay with losing your peace of mind with all this mithering error BS.

But we have this in all devices today. Our car beeps, flashes, and brings the strangest error messages while everything is mechanically tip-top. Yesterday our dishwasher gave up. Five years - time to buy the new model, with WiFi, of course.
The car and the dishwasher still can be repaired. But if not I do buy new things. Of course. What else shall I do?
But I don't buy anymore from the same company (which is not the same as the brand.)
"Fool me once or twice, shame on you. Fool me three or more times, shame on me."
And I'm no fool. At least I try not to.

Insofar FreeBSD (and also other BSDs, and Linux) help to save the planet.
You are not forced to buy new hardware every few years, but can do all your computering needs - real needs; excluding bleeding edge gaming - also on "old" hardware. 👍:cool:
 
It's a real shame that no-one is making new, innovative stuff like this now, trying new ideas out.
I wouldn't say that. The innovative ideas just changed their playground, too.

But I feel the same when I remember the "good old days" e.g. with a PS1. People came together, shared an evening, or a weekend together: gaming, pizza, beer, weed [at least we in the 90s :cool:] - having fun, having a life party.
Today everybody sits infront of the net-connected devices alone in his/her dark room, dealing with clouds, onlineshops,...and trying to ignore all that most anti-social agressive crap posted in the ingame chats... :-/
 
Yeah, maybe. Today seems to be a monoculture of PC's running either windows or linux, apart from the apple stuff. I guess there must be some some innovative things happening somewhere though :).
 
Your concerns are noble. 👍
And I agree cases better be made from recycled plastics, wood, or similar (and there are). While steal tin ain't that bad.

When Apple brought out their first Macbook with a massive aluminium case they actually proudly presented videos showing how it's milled from a massive block (not casted.) App.>85% of the material is removed until the frame is left, and I cried:"o_O Are they mad?!" (They are. But that's another topic. 😁) Sure, it's a very nice case. But the energy needed to recycle all this aluminium chippings is madness.

The cases are of no much consequences. The very electronics, the boards are what use most of the noblest resources. And those are hard to recycle: very energy consuming, so expensive, so it's way cheaper to dump it all on landfills in countries we look down at, and think how dirty they are. Just duckduckgo for pictures "electronics landfill africa."
You don't need to only see the bare resources themselves. Furthermore the amount of energy needed to produce, manufacture, transport, and recycle are what concerns.

Switching to more environmental friendly, resources saving materials is right. But as long as our economy ain't interested in devices being used as long as possible, but there are such things like planned obsolescence, those are just marketing stunts, letters of indulgence, just to give everybody a good feeling about how exemplary "green" we are, buying even more, slightly more greener things. While neither the things nor we are, but in fact trashing up the planet even more.

My #1 example at this point are printers.
The new models are advertised with lower energy consumption, and lower CO2 emission. While their production and transportation eat up magnitudes of what you will save in its lifetime.
You use it for two to three years. Then this bugger also starts to mither you with fantasy-error-bullshit, until after four or five years you are close to throw that annoying piece of shit out of the window. So you buy a new one. And of course - naturally - any of your cartridges left won't fit into the new one anymore. And maybe another cable is needed,... But it feels so very good to buy and have a new, smooth, errorless working device again.
Until in two or three years the shit starts all over again. While technically the device is tip-top. It could last ten, fifteen, twenty years - then saving resources, and CO2.
By now I don't know a single study estimates the price you pay with losing your peace of mind with all this mithering error BS.

But we have this in all devices today. Our car beeps, flashes, and brings the strangest error messages while everything is mechanically tip-top. Yesterday our dishwasher gave up. Five years - time to buy the new model, with WiFi, of course.
The car and the dishwasher still can be repaired. But if not I do buy new things. Of course. What else shall I do?
But I don't buy anymore from the same company (which is not the same as the brand.)
"Fool me once or twice, shame on you. Fool me three or more times, shame on me."
And I'm no fool. At least I try not to.

Insofar FreeBSD (and also other BSDs, and Linux) help to save the planet.
You are not forced to buy new hardware every few years, but can do all your computering needs - real needs; excluding bleeding edge gaming - also on "old" hardware. 👍:cool:
absolutely! we live in the disposables' age and it really sucks that no government (that i'm aware of) has made any law regarding planned obsolescence or similar, and we have to handle the consequences of this instead

not only would wooden PC cases be more eco-friendly, it'd also be a lot easier to customize them as you can just burn the surface and draw whatever the hell you want, along with it not needing as much energy to model so even the shape would be relatively easy to customize a little as well

Someone made this computer to look like 'Orac' from the british 'blakes-7' TV sci-fi series.

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https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/modding/orac3_part1/1/

Orac was short for 'oracle', since he was a computer who knew everything :). The 'Oric' brand name of UK micros was probably a play on 'orac'.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVmbd1hppV4
heh, i sometimes forget how transparent electronics are fire too

Yeah, maybe. Today seems to be a monoculture of PC's running either windows or linux, apart from the apple stuff. I guess there must be some some innovative things happening somewhere though :).
there might be, but it sucks that stuff nowadays aren't as different
ever since Apple released their first iPhone many many other phone companies just decided to copy their designs, so now we have this "design in-breeding" that makes stuff so boring nowadays
 
not only would wooden PC cases be more eco-friendly, it'd also be a lot easier to customize them as you can just burn the surface and draw whatever the hell you want, along with it not needing as much energy to model so even the shape would be relatively easy to customize a little as well
Wood actually takes a LOT of energy to cut - have you seen the power ratings on the wood-cutting tools these days?

Also - people do customize the hell out of their laptops already - there are stickers and whole aftermarket skins available.

absolutely! we live in the disposables' age and it really sucks that no government (that i'm aware of) has made any law regarding planned obsolescence or similar, and we have to handle the consequences of this instead
We hold onto old laptops and install Linux or a BSD on them. Yeah, it takes some brains to do that, and to be able to make use of the result. Governments usually have bigger fish to fry than that.

Maturin :
Yesterday our dishwasher gave up. Five years - time to buy the new model, with WiFi, of course.
So? even if it has wifi, you're not obligated to use it. Just don't connect it to your home net. And if it refuses to work based on that - buy something else. Yeah, takes some shopping and some thinking.
 
Wood actually takes a LOT of energy to cut - have you seen the power ratings on the wood-cutting tools these days?
huh, i haven't··· i thought it didn't as you can saw it and stuff

Also - people do customize the hell out of their laptops already - there are stickers and whole aftermarket skins available.
laptops, yeah, how about desktop PCs? i don't think laptops have that much room for shape customization

We hold onto old laptops and install Linux or a BSD on them. Yeah, it takes some brains to do that, and to be able to make use of the result. Governments usually have bigger fish to fry than that.
fair i guess
 
But I feel the same when I remember the "good old days" e.g. with a PS1. People came together, shared an evening, or a weekend together: gaming, pizza, beer, weed [at least we in the 90s :cool:] - having fun, having a life party.
I got this case for my first gaming desktop in 2011 (Newegg):


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I carried it and a small 1024x768 monitor across town to a friend's house to game on weekends :p
 
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