Solved Stuck at "Starting devd"

Hello, I am new to freebsd, so forgive me if I missed something in the handbook.

I have installed freebsd on my computer as described, and installed a KDE plasma desktop on it.
Everything worked fine for a couple of days, but now the boot hangs at "Starting devd".
Single user mode works, but I could not find anything useful in the log files;
especially the devd log is empty.
Is there any way I can debug/troubleshoot this?
 
Allright, this was my fault. I had a faulty entry in /etc/fstab, which caused the system to hang. The reason is that I tried to mount a btrfs partition using lklfuse, and I got that idea by foolishly following some tutorial in some blog. I have already converted the partition to ext4, so this line is useless now. After removing it, the problem is gone.
 
If you look on the forum everyone has problems with KDE breaking all the time

Its not really a desktop its more of a framework
with lots of piece that all have to work together that constantly break

People will probably disagree with me but its one of the worst Desktop out there
really badly made, terrible design known for constant breakages

if you disable natural scrolling you have to swipe in the opposite direction when switching virtual desktops
eg you have to swipe left to move to the virtual desktop on the right

In my opinion Desktops dont actually make any sense on Freebsd
because you dont use the desktop settings to configure anything its all done in config file on the Freebsd side

If you really want a Desktop experience using X11,
xfce would probably be a better bet

However i would recommend using a tiling window manager
because they are much more stable and all you really need is an application launcher to open programs

For Wayland on Freebsd the best compositor is dwl,
which is a tiling window manager based on dwm


Labwc based on openbox works well


Wayfire also works well

 
People will probably disagree with me but its one of the worst Desktop out there
really badly made, terrible design known for constant breakages
I 100% agree with this statement. KDE is definitely worst desktop environment ever made. The last known good version of KDE is version 3. KDE team is focusing way too much on supporting latest technologies and adding additional features and eyecandy, they made it way too complicated. KDE can be somewhat stable if you dont update often and if you dont change out of the box settings. However, as soon as you start to tinker, everything just falls apart. It doesnt matter if its Wayland or X11, eventually you will be greeted with broken desktop, missing icons in menus, and broken themes...etc. If you want a decent desktop environment, go for Cinnamon or XFCE. Tiling window managers are also excelent choice for those that dont like desktop environments.
 
If you look on the forum everyone has problems with KDE breaking all the time
Only KDE users. 😁🤓😎
People will probably disagree with me but its one of the worst Desktop out there
Only KDE users. I agree. It's not 'one of', it's the worst DE. 😁😎
Apart from technical issues I cannot judge, 'cause I don't use it, for my taste KDE is way too bloated. Too many junk installed by default I don't need, nor have a use for, neither want them. Besides a lot of in my eyes useless stuff like those stinky games (people playing things like minesweeper IMO should be guarded by a SWAT team), KDE comes with too much redundancies, like several different texteditors, while I need one. And above all for my taste KDE is way too Windows like. I hate the look and feel of Windows - it's illogical, redundant, bloated, confused, not intuitive,... - it just sucks. Copying Windows is like copy Heineken.
But that's personal taste.
In my opinion Desktops dont actually make any sense on Freebsd
I wouldn't say that.
I agree insofar that I also learned for myself, I don't need any desktop environment (DE) at all, but I am (way) better served with "just a simple" window manager (WM).
Since for desktop usage of course I prefer a GUI with windows etc., but I don't need all the predefined garbage a DE brings.
I prefer to create my own structure and logic instead familiarizing with another 'one-size-fits-all' boiler suit.
I decide what software I use. And I rather install only what I want in the first place, instead of getting a bunch of junk I don't want by default, then deinstall all of that, and then need to install what I want anyway. (This of course presupposes that one knows what software there is, and what one wants.)
I want to have full control over menus, and taskbars, including to remove every entry up to not have it at all.
I don't want no 'waste paper basket', because I am a mature user who not only does backups but also knows what the deletion of a file means. And when I want to delete a file, I want to delete that file, and not always first having a discussion with my computer every time, if I'm really sure what I'm doing. 🤪
I don't want any DE's own texteditor. I want mine.
I don't need no filemanager. I have a shell.
[...]
But that's personal taste, personal style how to work,
and also of course a way of learning, of experience. Those things come with time.
I also didn't start on FreeBSD with my "spartan" WM without filemanager, desktop calculator, GUI media player etc.
This came with time, when I learned: I'm most of the times in a shell anyway, and I can do all those things in the shell faster, better, and more powerful than driving mouse kilometers. 😎
If I wanna know what three times seven is, I simply just need the twentyone, not some GUI toy look like it was a desktop calculator with LCD. Using some shell calculator is way faster (in most cases even more precise) than using some GUI toy.
But again, that's experience and personal taste.
And I also didn't start that way. I also used
for some time. Good recommendation.👍

But apart from that, I never had any technical problems due updates/new version with the WM I use for over six years.

The more there is, the more can be broken. 🤓
 
If KDE was a car all the parts would be made by different factories not talking to each other

So it should come as no surprise that all the parts dont work together

As opposed to a car designed and built in one factory

The whole KDE project is fundamentally flawed in its approach
and its just a giant bloated mess, like the love child of Windows and Linux
 
OP, glad you figured it out. If you are using ZFS, you can use different tools to fix this. If you have multiple boot environments, you can boot into a working one, use bectl to mount the broken one and then fix the broken one.

I did something similar on a Linux system at work; the problem was it was systemd based, so just got a cryptic error message about the boot failing that I needed another system to search "wtf does this mean", then journalctl to actually read the logs to find out "oh, I have an entry for a usb device in fstab without noauto and booted without the usb device inserted".
 
If you look on the forum everyone has problems with KDE breaking all the time

I just wanted to point out that the boot stopped way before entering KDE or even starting wayland/X11.
My mistake was trying to mount a btrfs partiton by following a (bad) tutorial instead of sticking to the handbook.
FWIW, i used to use tiling window managers, but at the moment I prefer KDE.

OP, glad you figured it out. If you are using ZFS, you can use different tools to fix this. If you have multiple boot environments, you can boot into a working one, use bectl to mount the broken one and then fix the broken one.
Yeah, I should have probably selected ZFS over UFS during the installation, but I did not really know at the time.
 
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