general/other Only 32-bit Linux in Virtualbox?

Did you try the command line method?
I hadn't because I just assumed it wouldn't work since the option is disabled in the GUI.

But since you asked I tried it, and it worked!

Not only that, guest Virtualbox now offers to create all kinds of 64-bit virtual machines!

You did it! It's fixed! ??????

Thank you!!!
 
That's funny cause the cool kids bash KDE? ?‍♂️ See here for actually measured space requirements of an installation with KDE and quite some application software:
The KDE (Kitchen sink Desktop Environment) is all or nothing. You want to install say, Kcalendar and all the other KDE packages are dependencies.
59 dependencies to install Kate, a pretty basic text editor. That is ridiculous.
 
The KDE (Kitchen sink Desktop Environment) is all or nothing. You want to install say, Kcalendar and all the other KDE packages are dependencies.
59 dependencies to install Kate, a pretty basic text editor. That is ridiculous.
None of my machines are running KDE, but while the one I'm sitting in front of would just install 7 packages with a few megabytes, another one would raise 346 packages and 3 GB to get Kate up & running; IMO there is nothing ridiculous about that - instead it's completely without statement. And f.e. you're able to get lower dependencies if you're going with ports instead of packages - the price is your time as well as knowledge. But at the beginning: Use packages.
 
another one would raise 346 packages and 3 GB to get Kate up & running; IMO there is nothing ridiculous about that
346 packages for a basic text editor is "nothing ridiculous" for you?

3GB is enough for an entire operating system with a complete graphical environment plus a browser, photo editor, media player and office suite. Throw in a little Solitaire and Minesweeper too because why not.

You just have to be kidding.
 
The KDE (Kitchen sink Desktop Environment) is all or nothing. You want to install say, Kcalendar and all the other KDE packages are dependencies.
59 dependencies to install Kate, a pretty basic text editor. That is ridiculous.
You get the exact same headaches with Linux, no matter the distro. Get your bloat up front or later, ALL operating systems have that. If you don't like that, command line is always an option. Sed, awk, ls, less, lspci, lsusb - that's the stuff that's in base. You generally get what you pay for ?‍♂️
 
You get the exact same headaches with Linux, no matter the distro. Get your bloat up front or later, ALL operating systems have that. If you don't like that, command line is always an option. Sed, awk, ls, less, lspci, lsusb - that's the stuff that's in base. You generally get what you pay for ?‍♂️
Not true. LXDE takes about 15MB all components combined. And it's very functional, better than XFCE.
 
346 packages for a basic text editor is "nothing ridiculous" for you?
First: Kate is really not a "basic text editor". https://kate-editor.org/
It simply needs a graphical environment to run as well as KF5 (and KF5 needs QT) - that's it.
And again: The amount of packages says nothing about anything. It's the other way around: Having many small packages means you get less you don't need. KF5 f.e. is split on FreeBSD into ~160 packages (Xorg afaik ~130) - great, I don't get all of it in one package as I don't need all of them (for Kate it might be ~45). But … KF5 as one package it would reduce your dependency list. Your world would be fine by getting the content of 160 packages as one package because you need 30% of it? Counting packages is pointless.
 
First: Kate is really not a "basic text editor". https://kate-editor.org/
It simply needs a graphical environment to run as well as KF5 (and KF5 needs QT) - that's it.
And again: The amount of packages says nothing about anything. It's the other way around: Having many small packages means you get less you don't need. KF5 f.e. is split on FreeBSD into ~160 packages (Xorg afaik ~130) - great, I don't get all of it in one package as I don't need all of them (for Kate it might be ~45). But … KF5 as one package it would reduce your dependency list. Your world would be fine by getting the content of 160 packages as one package because you need 30% of it? Counting packages is pointless.
Yes, Kate is very basic, I have used it, and no, counting packages is not pointless. It's not just a bunch of small packages, it's 100 of them cluttering your system and it takes up 112MB of disk. Compare that with Pluma, which is more capable: 1,270KB. Medit: 6MB. Geany is a full IDE: about 14MB. Freeoffice: 242MB, twice as much as Kate's dependencies, but Freeoffice is a full office suite with word processor, spreadsheet, and some kind of "powerpoint" thing. 68MB of fonts, so that's 174MB of software. What's even worse is that Kate doesn't require just a few packages. It requires all of them and only KDE applications are ever going to require that cruft. So it's exactly like I said, it's all or nothing. If you want one KDE app, you have to take the entire KDE home. That's just bad, bloated design. I could make a Kate clone with about 1MB of Tcl/Tk code.
 
Yes, Kate is very basic, I have used it, and no, counting packages is not pointless. It's not just a bunch of small packages, it's 100 of them cluttering your system and it takes up 112MB of disk. Compare that with Pluma, which is more capable: 1,270KB. Medit: 6MB. Geany is a full IDE: about 14MB. Freeoffice: 242MB, twice as much as Kate's dependencies, but Freeoffice is a full office suite with word processor, spreadsheet, and some kind of "powerpoint" thing. 68MB of fonts, so that's 174MB of software. What's even worse is that Kate doesn't require just a few packages. It requires all of them and only KDE applications are ever going to require that cruft. So it's exactly like I said, it's all or nothing. If you want one KDE app, you have to take the entire KDE home. That's just bad, bloated design. I could make a Kate clone with about 1MB of Tcl/Tk code.
You can't run LibreOffice without Xorg or QT5: https://ports.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=LibreOffice&stype=all Those dependencies are exactly the same on Linux, BTW. If you only have a kernel (Command-line and some text utilities like ls, and suddenly want editors/libreoffice, you can't get away from all those dependencies. That will be the case on both Linux and FreeBSD.

Even when using Tcl/Tk, you won't be able to make a Kate clone if you don't have Xorg (and ALL the deps) installed.
 
I never mentioned LibreOffice (it's too large even not counting Qt5, I checked), and I complained about Kate requiring 100MB worth of dependencies on top of Xorg. Xorg has been installed for years. All my comparisons exclude Xorg because it is already there.

According to Debian, Tk only depends on Tcl (and Xorg I guess) and Tcl depends on nothing. And both are laughably small.
 
Just checked, FreeOffice is not in ports. But y'know, you can focus on lightweight stuff to install on top of the kernel/Xorg in your VM. With 16 GB for the VHD, though, you'll have to accept that you won't be able to run Wine or a graphical web browser. I would encourage you to do some research and playing with the software.
 
Yes, Kate is very basic, I have used it
Specially for you: Compiled & took a look at it. F.e. it can create SQL statements for my code, can view database tables and do SQL requests. Whatever you've used - what I saw is far beyond basic text editor.
So it's exactly like I said, it's all or nothing. If you want one KDE app, you have to take the entire KDE home.
jo@freya ~> pkg cinfo kate
kate-22.12.2
jo@freya ~> locate descr | grep /usr/ports | grep 'kf5\|kde' | wc -l
282
jo@freya ~> pkg info | grep 'kf5\|kde' | wc -l
48

You may correct those counters 5 up or down by looking exactly through the ports (using locate & grep may be sketchy), but anyway: My 48 KF5/KDE packages are not just Kate (but f.e. Kdenlive, kdesvn, QuiteRSS, QMapshack uses KF5, too etc.). But I don't have KDE installed. All or nothing?

EOT for me - you want your world, you have it. Have fun. It's also OT here…
 
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