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It's quite possible for a hardware problem or driver problem to only manifest itself under KDE4. Do the crashes happen if you disable direct rendering? How about if you disable the sound drivers? In the past, I've found that OSSv4 can be very tempermental, causing completely system crashes (though, to be fair, those backtraces don't look like they are coming from OSS, but it's worth a shot).

Adam
 
Note that two of your vmcore dumps show that csup caused the crash .. And the applications in all of your crashes were different, and not all were KDE or even X related. Seems to point to a more common issue, which is usually hardware. So RAM, disk, overheating, PCI cards, anything ..

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number = vmcore
5.  current process         = 52286 ([B]csup[/B])
6.  panic: ufs_dirbad: /usr: bad dir ino 1655620 at offset 1512: mangled entry
7.  current process         = 1613 ([B]dolphin[/B])
8.  current process         = 1550 ([B]drkonqi[/B])
9.  current process         = 1775 ([B]csup[/B])
10. current process         = 1451 ([B]opera[/B])
11. current process         = 3296 ([B]smplayer[/B])
12. current process         = 15540 ([B]kmail[/B])

All cores seem to have this in common, but this may be typical for any vmcore image, I don't know ;) ->
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Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)
 
While there was not KDE installed, there were only 3 crashes and all were caused by ral0 (ral driver) pci WiFi card.
And device timeout was common, so after googling, I learned that cause is a driver, which makes ral0 suck too much power so it end up starwed of power.

But, right now, I think I should benchmark my graphic card, as there were problems with it, even under XP
Port recommendation?
 
adamk said:
Perhaps try a moderately GPU intensive game like openarena: games/openarea ?

EDIT: There's even a time demo you can download and try:

http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Benchmarking

No, no...
I would really prefer something nicer, like memtest for RAM, so I need specialised tool for GPU

And I completely avoid software, that requires lynux emulation.

Also, is ther a tool for seeing sys power consumption, logging perhaps? :stud
 
I am not aware of any memtest like application for GPUs.

But what makes you think that openarena requires linux emulation?

Adam
 
adamk said:
I am not aware of any memtest like application for GPUs.

But what makes you think that openarena requires linux emulation?

Adam
Absolutely nothing. ;)
I just said that I avoid all ports that require linux emulation, in general.

I also don't feel like playing games.
 
How long has it been, since you assembled that hardware setup? In what environment is it running? Dusty? Do you smoke? Did you use some older components, that have been laying around for some time?

Often all it takes to get a stable system again are some Q-tips and some pure alcohol...
 
mickey said:
How long has it been, since you assembled that hardware setup?
4 years ago.
mickey said:
In what environment is it running? Dusty? Do you smoke?
Nope, I don't smoke.
But sometimes, I do smoke a little bit of crack. ;)
I simply code better while on it! :)
mickey said:
Did you use some older components, that have been laying around for some time?
No, all are 4 years old.
mickey said:
Often all it takes to get a stable system again are some Q-tips and some pure alcohol...
I've cleaned dust in midi case, with aspirator, yesterday.

Anyway, I've unplugged cord to cooling fan on graphic card, 3 months ago, as it started to drive me nuts, with it's noise(which wasn't case before).
Would GPU overheating cause this?

Now, I have open midi case and if I decide to run KDE4, I plug in cord of cooling fan on graphic card.

How to fix fan?
Noise is terrible! It goes like this:
zzzzzzzzzzz-zz-zz-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz-zz zz zz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
intermittent...
I wana constant silence, as it was first 3 years.
:p
 
a) buy new fan, replace old
b) carefully try oiling it, with a little bit of oil....
c) put Very, very big and effective heat silk
d) put voter cooling system on it

I recommend a
 
Seeker said:
4 years ago.

That is quite some time to accumulate dust, for contacts to oxidize, ... you name it ...

Seeker said:
I've cleaned dust in midi case, with aspirator, yesterday.
I was not talking about cleaning the case, that is seldom the source of spurious system instabilities :p

I was talking about cleaning the electrical contacts, especially those on your add-on cards and memory modules.

Cleaning the case, should be part of your regular servicing procedures anyways :e

Seeker said:
Anyway, I've unplugged cord to cooling fan on graphic card, 3 months ago, ...
Bad idea.

Seeker said:
Would GPU overheating cause this?
Well, as KDE4 has a compositing window manager, which uses hardware 3D features of your graphics card, I would assume, that it puts more stress on your graphics card, than say using twm or 80x25 text mode console. More stress means more heat. No fan means even more heat, so yes, i would think this was absolutely possible.

Seeker said:
How to fix fan?
Noise is terrible! It goes like this:
zzzzzzzzzzz-zz-zz-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz-zz zz zz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
intermittent...
I wana constant silence, as it was first 3 years.

I know... my old graphics card currently has it's third fan.

Get a replacement fan.
If that's not possible, get a replacement fan assembly.
If that's also not possible, get a replacement graphics card :f
 
Well,after case is cleaned and open and fan is on, no more reboots. ;)

Now, the only annoyance is loudly fan.
It is a little hard to find a new fan for it, as it is custom for each graphic card.(CPU is different story)
I think I should disassemble and oil it, to shut it up. ;)
 
Seeker said:
Well,after case is cleaned and open and fan is on, no more reboots. ;)
Surprise, surprise :e

Seeker said:
Now, the only annoyance is loudly fan.
It is a little hard to find a new fan for it, as it is custom for each graphic card.

What make/model is your graphics card?

Seeker said:
I think I should disassemble and oil it, to shut it up. ;)

Trust me, that wont last for long :p Once the fan's bearings are in a state, where they start making such a noise, oil wont help anymore.
 
try using vaseline on the bearings. its thicker than oil so it wont run all over the place and it can better lubricate damaged moving parts.
 
LateNiteTV said:
try using vaseline on the bearings. its thicker than oil so it wont run all over the place and it can better lubricate damaged moving parts.

Taking a closer look at an average fan as used in computer systems, you will notice that you wont even get close to the bearings without completely disassembling the fan. And if you get that far, without damaging the axle, it would probably make more sense, to replace the bearings. But that will usually cost more than a new fan. And given the size of an average GPU fan, I surely hope, you have a good magnifying glass at hand :e

For most standard graphics cards, like nvidia and ATI, a replacement cooler assembly should not be that hard to get.

Arctic Cooling for example has a line of products called ATI Silencer or NV Silencer, that use large 70mm fans, and exhaust the hot air directly out of the case. Only drawback is, that you cannot use the slot directly adjacent to the graphics card.
 
Ok guys, this thread is a total mess!

What I mean, is that it could be split in 4,5 regular threads each with it's own theme.

It started with KDE crashing...
Then how to undo rm(ed) file and where to search for it on HD and how to do it.
...Passed to file system working and Soft Updates
Core dumping...
Touched installed ports and gaming..., linux emulation
..skipped to hardware and graphic card
Ending in detailing of hardware cleaning methods
and GPU fan alternatives...
And finally to debate moisturizing of loudly GPU fan.
Here by the way, some infidel deleted my post, related to Vaseline ambiguity issue, which, I am absolutely sure, would put a nail in the coffin, to this issue.

But even with that, this is considered as a solved matter.

I would like, to thank everyone, that helped me! ;)
No more KDE crashes at all. ;)
 
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