Solved Is Rust now killing C++ and eventually C with it ?

I don't want to open another thread for a simple question, and since part of this thread already has other topics mixed in, I want to ask how do I get badges like cracauer@ or Crivens ?

Crivens has three badges:
-> Staff member
-> Administrator
-> Moderator
Well, "Staff member" is self explanatory, but what does "Administrator", and "Moderator" mean in context to FreeBSD ?

In order to get the "Developer" badge, what do I need to do ?
 
SDK Chan said:
Crivens has three badges:
-> Staff member
-> Administrator
-> Moderator
Well, "Staff member" is self explanatory, but what does "Administrator", and "Moderator" mean in context to FreeBSD ?

In order to get the "Developer" badge, what do I need to do ?
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Be careful what you wish for...
Moderator means I check all the newbies and what they post. I get to see the spam attempts, break up squabbles among users, do housekeeping, fix spelling, remove spam - stuff like that. It was my punishment for knowing things, being level headed and standing up for the ones who needed it. Now, I need to check what I write with special attention to how it will reflect on the community, instead only on me as an individual. So be warned.

Being a moderator comes with access to internals of the forum, that is the "staff member". You might know about the "wheel" group? It's like that.
And Administrator would be equivalent to sudo access, so in case it is absolute neccesary I could change basic parameters - which has not been neccesary for quite some time. And Developer is what you get when you are actively developing for freebsd. I think it is what you get for the @freebsd.org email address.
 
Crivens said:
And Developer is what you get when you are actively developing for freebsd. I think it is what you get for the @freebsd.org email address.
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Ok.
Do port maintainer of external programs also get a developer badge ?
I saw one of them "jbeich" with a @freebsd.org Email-Address part, but I think I never saw him on the forum.
Or does it only count if you are developing the base system part of FreeBSD ?
 
SDK Chan said:
does it only count if you are developing the base system part of FreeBSD ?
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Crivens said:
when you are actively developing for freebsd
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I think it wouldn't make sense if it wasn't Freebsd related.
Crivens said:
Now, I need to check what I write with special attention to how it will reflect on the community, instead only on me as an individual
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Would it be so bad if you speak only in your name sometimes?
I wouldn't be offended, I mean as long as the subject is only tech you can say what ever you want even if it's your own opinion. I think everybody understand that you don't own FreeBSD, being a forum administrator is something different you should allow yourself to speak freely more often and therefore participate as you wish, there is nothing wrong with that IMO.
 
SDK Chan said:
Ok.
Do port maintainer of external programs also get a developer badge ?
I saw one of them "jbeich" with a @freebsd.org Email-Address part, but I think I never saw him on the forum.
Or does it only count if you are developing the base system part of FreeBSD ?
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Y'know, I think you actually have put in some effort on a regular basis, and demonstrate commitment and consistency, even if it's not convenient. As an example, what if Crivens had a lot of stuff IRL that demanded his attention to the point that he no longer could handle Forums mod duties?
 
gotnull said:
I think it wouldn't make sense if it wasn't Freebsd related.
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To some extend ports are also FreeBSD related, I think.
They are externals, but they still access parts of the FreeBSD system.
Externals ported/redeveloped to some extend to fit the FreeBSD OS.

astyle said:
Y'know, I think you actually have put in some effort on a regular basis, and demonstrate commitment and consistency, even if it's not convenient. As an example, what if Crivens had a lot of stuff IRL that demanded his attention to the point that he no longer could handle Forums mod duties?
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Actually the questions asked were serious, and not provocative.
I re-re-read my sentences right now, and eventually they sound otherwise...
It was by no mean an attack against Crivens.
 
Actually I got confused of how to interpret "Administrator", because we also have "Developer" here, too.
So, I thought "Administrator" could imply the system administrator, like the developer implies the software related developer in this case... 😅

I just wanted to know whether I could get such a "Developer" badge by introducing some ports, but if it is only base system related, it will not be possible in the very near future, I guess ...
 
SDK Chan said:
Actually the questions asked were serious, and not provocative.
I re-re-read my sentences right now, and eventually they sound otherwise...
It was by no mean an attack against Crivens.
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Actually, I was trying to be serious, as well... It usually takes a bit of back-and-forth before you get a good read on the other person/user, and can tell if they are trying to be provocative / entertaining / blunt / whatever. The more messages you exchange, the better are your chances of having a reasonably accurate assessment of the other person's / user's intent and tone.

I've seen horror stories of reddit mods jumping into the middle of a very sarcastic conversation and meting out discipline left and right without any consideration for context, how the situation brewed up in the first place.

I guess this is my tendency to play the devil's advocate here, which is pretty appropriate for these Forums when you consider that FreeBSD's mascot is the devil himself, and 666 is a very nice number that means you have quite a bit of freedom to work with a specific file/directory ;)
 
Paul Floyd said:
Impetus from the US is likely to decrease rather a lot. From what I have heard the Trump administration has made significant (illegal) layoffs. I wouldn’t be surprised if Congress goes along with this and closes down such a meddlesome bureaucratic agency.
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Hmm... it was the NSA wot done it... ah yeah, let's see if Elon closes down the NSA... what are the chances?!:D
Anyway, he's going to mars, man... real soon now...

I ran a search on indeed last autumn for rust jobs in the UK... it only found 2 jobs in the whole country requesting rust programming skills... both at GCHQ...

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astyle said:
Gambling is for people who can't do math. RWX on ALL levels is kind of meaningless.
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Bind /tmp to tmpfs and you will get 776 (rwx,rwx,rw), I think.
My other tmpfs are mounted with 700 (rwx,---,---) ...
But, yes, 777 is not something I would use for a system with many users on it.
 
Even if the US government wants businesses to stop using memory-unsafe languages I highly doubt the businesses see it the same way.
It would take a huge amount of time + investment into workers without knowing whether the results would be satisfying.
Even memory-safe languages have their flaws, too.
There is also a paradigm called defensive programming, if I am not wrong.
 
6502 said:
Rust killing C... Maybe it will kill also COBOL, C#, Perl and PHP.
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I doubt it will kill COBOL. Too many large mainframe shops still have a lot of code written in COBOL. Many of those apps were on punched cards, later put on disk. I recall in my first job for a group of economic engineers (actually electrical engineers working on what they called economic engineering) the apps were written in Fortran, COBOL, and a little Assembler (to work around Fortran floating point limitations). The code was written on IBM punched cards. One of the first things I did was move the code from punched cards to disk, compiling the code into libraries also on disk. Yeah, old apps were on punched cards and moved onto disk. I'm sure there's a lot of that still.

But as apps are rewritten to run on Linux, a lot of companies here are rewriting them in Java. Around here Java is the choice of most app developers working for big business in this part of the world. Could be different where you are but it's certainly Java here.
 
cy@ said:
I doubt it will kill COBOL. Too many large mainframe shops still have a lot of code written in COBOL.
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I made fun of a good friend of mine who went to school to learn COBOL in the late 1970s. He worked for a large, local bank. As of about 10 years ago, he was still working with COBOL.
 
Crivens said:
drhowarddrfine that is what I call job security.
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It's good, readable and structured programming language, is COBOL. Designed for a specific purpose and probably memory safe too. I hear Fortran programmers get well paid too these days, as do typewriter repair specialists.

Long before Rust kills C and C++ (if ever) something else will be killing Rust! 🤣
 
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