Is it normal that you believe FreeBSD better?

tux2bsd there are very few installers that allow full-disk encryption out-of-the-box and aren't 100% bullet proof
Your hair-splitting nature sure is painful... Boot loader, do decrypt step, OS starts, carry on. If there is one disk some part of it has to be unencrypted so the bloody computer can begin the process...
 
What's you thought?

It simply depends on what you need.

I personally wanted to get away from MS Windows since I started on this sh1t (95).
But I never became a real friend of Linux neither.

In my eyes Linux tries to manage the split between sneak peaks at unix ('old-school', yuck!) and becoming a better Windows (colorful, modern, cool, popular, successful, more GUI, less shell, must do.) If Linux actually ever had a clear concept (Linus Torvalds may had it on his mind to create some kind of a free unix when he started on it) it was lost a long time ago.
On the one hand it's having a large community of anarchists, arguing where to put the focus on.
To me Linux is mostly some kind of an anarchistic playground for computernerds not thinking about the real usage very much.
To me they are like vintage car tinkers: If everything runs smooth they are unhappy, because then there is nothing to tinker about.
Their primary target is to tinker, not using.
From that a few dictators picked the useful stuff and absolutic define their distri within strict limits.
Which in my eyes in most cases are an attempt to create a 'Better Windows': turnkey-os for computermorons who don't want to learn the least, don't want to know shit, don't care at all, just feel comfortable if everything runs automatically, looks familiar, best like an exploded candy-shop, and throws many annoying requesters containing incomprenhensible and useless verbiage, because this shows the computer is doing something, and it's portentous - the computer cares.

At the same time a user (me) does not know which distri stays, which one will die, or will radically be changed in what short time - what's worth to dig into, more and more unsatisfied Windows-refugees entering Linux-camp bringing more and more weight on the Windows side, which in my eyes is per se complete out of the line.
If you are unsatisfied with a jack-of-all-trades - and sooner or later you will - don't go to the next shop to find the jack-of-all-trades that perfectly suits you.
You will never succeed.
Sucking is the very nature of any jack-of-all-trades.
Take coffee-machines for example, or all-inclusive package computers, it's all the same cr#p.
They are always a very limited combination of modules others decided about. Besides the most selling module impresses with numbers on it's datasheet all are the cheapest scrap available.
They are not ment to satisfy you. Otherwise you wouldn't buy the next model.
And you do, because you still believe in '...but one day, there will be the jack-of-all-trades...'.
Nope. Wake up!
Reconsider if it's not the individual jack-off-trades that sucks but the idea of jack-of-all-trades per se wherein the misbelief lies.

Bottom line:
To me Linux is unreliable, untrustworthy, took the wrong course, already way too much Windows like, anyway.
(At least the distros I know. And yes I know there are [few] exceptions, but those have other disadvantages I don't want to expose here [already too long].)

Since I knew nothing else for many years I had both systems, Windows and Linux, since you can do things with one system you cannot do with the other.
But I was never really satisfied.
(As I posted elsewhere, I knew Amiga OS and Solaris a bit, so I had an idea what a good os feels like.)

Then I found FreeBSD. 9something or so I started on it.
I simply didn't knew it even exists.
Everybody is using Windows (or maybe MacOS). And if even someone is talking something else it's Linux.
And from those who know there is FreeBSD some still think it's some kind of Linux.
For a complete newb used to turnkey-os, only, FreeBSD is a small hurdle to take in the first place.
But if you want to dig into a system - are actually interested in computers really - you want a system worth to dig into.
That's FreeBSD.

You have understood that there will be no jack-of-all-trades fully satisfy you, ever.
You want/need the modules, but you need to assemble them yourself.
That's FreeBSD.
The (almost) complete choice of all modules available, and a self-contained system to make it as easy and reliable as possible to assemble them.
Your job is to learn which modules you want, which there are, pick, and assemble them.

Above all to me the very most important values of FreeBSD are
that FreeBSD stays reliable loyal to its concept,
of being both a true and complete os, focus on practical usability, not on experimantle playground, being its own but a true kind of what could be named as a real and full unix (because that is the best idea of how to concept an os anyhow.)
I'm using FreeBSD exclusively on all my machines.
I still cannot do everything with it. E.g. I cannot play all games I want to - yet.
But besides I'm working on it (qemu, wine) this is not my primary target.
I decided for me to focus more on learning FreeBSD, and programming, and less on playing games.

However I agree with previous posters:
People tend to make a religion out of anything they learned is good.
Nothing good came out of any religion.


So as I said at the beginning:
It simply depends on what you want/need.
 
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You jut do not understand how much ZFS Boot Environments change the game ... and I do not have the time to explain it to you at the moment.

Seems I need to do a blog post about it ...
There are i think only 4 places when i could use boot-environments.
-make installkernel
-make installworld
-etc-update
-pkg upgrade
[Bootcode has to be done manual]
 
Re-thinking about this, I guess what I am experiencing is the fact that BSDs are OSs with a clear separation between the system and the third parties software; when it is time to do any "internal" changes there are clear and documented knobs to use; on the Linux side we have collections of applications + kernel glue together by different parts that change from distro to distro, these special components (e.g.: init, package manager, etc...) tend to change often if not worse become obsolete, those components also overlap themselves in functionalities and hierarchies, therefore the inner behavior is constantly changing and the documentation often doesn't keep up with the changes. Eventually everything is more confused and lesser predictable... ?
 
To be fair, if a decent Linux distro came along that provided an actual concept of a "base" and even a fraction of the size of the FreeBSD community, I think that could tempt many ex-Linux guys back. I would even use it for some awkward hardware situations.
I've run Void Linux virtually and on bare metal. It's a solid, designed from scratch, non-systemd distro that's worth a look. It also has an interesting package manager that's unique. These days for Linux I run Slackware. I also run FreeBSD and OpenBSD.
 
Q: Is it normal that you believe FreeBSD better?
A: Yes

This system IS better.

I started here in October 2017 after using Fedora for eight years. The initial setup of FreeBSD first was a bit of a shock, until I realized that the way I install and use this OS is solely my choice. And you have to make choices, it isn't done for you. That's more a psychologic journey than just installing software -- you want to steer? OK, here's the helm!

Choice (for me) is beyond the superficial frills. A personal computer should just work, do just what I need it to do and nothing more. Maintenance should in fact be as boring as possible, because It Works. FreeBSD maintenance on a well set up box is boring. No surprises (OK, sometimes, but nothing disastrous).

My only comparison is to my boss' Wandows 10 laptop. The hardware is excellent, but the OS and company software is a disaster. Pending system updates slow down performance (nice indicator, but some taskbar icon would do fine). Updates overwrite user config. Telemetry and frills hijack bandwidth. The window manager isn't able to detect screen boundaries. Etc, etc.

So YES, FreeBSD is better. It's not only belief, but more a Fact. It is By Far Better, because it lets me choose and doesn't interfere with my choices.

TNX !
 
I used V7 then Sunos then 386bsd then netbsd then FreeBSD since 1994 or so. I think FreeBSD has become much too complex but I’m too lazy to switch now and there are no real alternatives anyway. And I think OS kernels matter less and less as time goes on.
 
FreeBSD Admewnistration hasn't changed since I startered usering and adminikittying it back in 1998. Much of the Pawbook from 4.x still applies in 13.x. Linux, on the other paw, has been at least 3 completely different systems in that same timeframe, pawssibly even 4.

I've been a consistent FreeBSD-kitty. Sometimes FreeBSD falls behind, but it always catches up. Like hybrid graphics not working until 2021. But hey, it worked (eventually).

Pawbably unnecessary?

In a more related note: I usually forget where I am most of the time which makes the operating system I use pretty inconsequential. All that matters is tha tit s loads fast.
 
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