I am trying to install FreeBSD 15

unitrunker said:
Rock The UEFI pin would come from HP, not from Microsoft - assuming your UEFI requires a pin to properly turn off secure boot.
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I disabled "secure boot" at the BIOS after pressing F1. Then booted to the bitlocker menu asking to enter it and printing that I have to login my MS account to find it. I decided to go back and enable "secure boot" because I got error while login to my account in MS from phone.

I may try to disable secure boot and when the bitlocker menu is printed to enter the number from login to my MS account.
rcbsdpge said:
If you are dual booting many operating systems the boot order also has to be set by priority.

This is where I get a lot of bugs sometimes at boot time with both HP and Dell BIOS

For now I only boot 1 OS at a time by manually disabling the hard drive not in use with multiple hard drives
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I put HD on top of boot order since I installed a HD with FreeBSD14.1. But EUFI does not show it.
 
I think if there is 1 space where we could lead in the operating systems space I would say firmware and BIOS

Afaik no 1 operating system leads that space.

That would keep FreeBSD competitive for decades to come

I haven’t made the time to comb over HP’s BIOS OP

Fwiw, my machine I run a lot recently on Dell BIOS, I had just updated the BIOS from a 2016-2017 version release to the latest which is a 2022 version release
 
unitrunker said:
I don't think you should see bitlocker asking for keys with secure boot turned off. That's the part confusing me.
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There is also a section of the BIOS that deals with drive security. My thought is a password on the drive.
I wonder if that's what the problem is now. Secure Boot is only one component now disabled.

For experiment I would try another disk drive and try installing to it..
 
My recent online search into TPM states that Microsoft is mandating TPM 2.0 for security purposes

An official statement from Microsoft
techcommunity.microsoft.com

TPM 2.0 – a necessity for a secure and future-proof Windows 11 - Windows IT Pro Blog

Learn why Trusted Platform Module (TPM) 2.0 is a non-negotiable standard for Windows 11 now and in the future.
techcommunity.microsoft.com techcommunity.microsoft.com

Where does HP’s BIOS tie in here with OP’s BSD installation issues

Now I’m curious 👀
 
unitrunker said:
I don't know the HP uefi bios but I don't think you should see bitlocker asking for keys with secure boot turned off. That's the part confusing me.
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yes. After secure boot is turned off and save the setup, rebooted, it shows the bitlocker menu explaining that it needs it for using an encrypted HD. Must be my HD (not SSD) with FreeBSD14.1 inside the machine.
Me? waiting for my PC to boot FreeBSD.
 
Does the UEFI menu look anything like this?

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I only used the boot submenu to turn off secure boot. It will take me a reboot to compare. Also I forgot to say that before the bitlocker menu I had removed the factory M.2 and replace it with a new M.2.

Update: it took me a while to get the menu with the boot tab just to turn back on secure boot.
 
If you are trying to boot from USB or DVD ISO media with secure_boot DISABLED there is no bitlocker present on the USB or DVD-ISO drive.
Bitlocker would be present on the exisiting internal M.2 NVME or SSD or SATA drive in the PC.
Did you attempt to adjust the BOOT_ORDER to boot USB drive or DVD-ISO only ?
If PC tries to access one of the Internal Storage Media in the machine before trying to boot from Install USB/DVD-ISO , that would explain it
getting stuck asking for Bitlocker key.
 
drsnx60 said:
wow, so HP has somehow bound this hardware to windows ,,,,
looks like it should be abandoned.
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One of my wife's Acer laptops will only boot the Windows 10 installed on the machine. There is no option to enter the BIOS or boot from an external drive. It's totally locked down. The SSD is soldered to the MB too.

I have two other Acer laptops, both of which multi-boot into FreeBSD and Windows. My HP 840 (business class machine) is a FreeBSD-only machine.

It's always good to test before you buy.
 
Not sure, but I don't think a PC should go to something Bitlocker-related, It's a Windows password manager, right? (I may be biased) If the UEFI/BIOS is set to boot from DVD and it works, how do you get at a Bitlocker prompt window? Some other volume must have been booted instead, otherwise how can a program already be running at this point?
 
Well like I posted back one page ago.

Windows Boot Manager EFI entry.
Nuke it unless you plan on returning to Windows.
It certainly cannot be helpful booting to a Windows EFI file.
 
MG said:
Not sure, but I don't think a PC should go to something Bitlocker-related, It's a Windows password manager, right? (I may be biased) If the UEFI/BIOS is set to boot from DVD and it works, how do you get at a Bitlocker prompt window? Some other volume must have been booted instead, otherwise how can a program already be running at this point?
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Bitlocker is windows disc encryption , nothing to do with passwords
 
drsnx60 said:
Bitlocker is windows disc encryption , nothing to do with passwords
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I was wrong... Is this a supervisor program that took control on a level beneath the OS installation like sort of a bootloader?
I would give up and just zero the disk including any bootloader-like things in this situation. It should load a kernel.
 
unitrunker said:
Rock please post an image of the "secure" menu. That will save a lot of QnA.
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I am trying to; I forgot what key to hit before it starts. Maybe something is stopping me. Call Bill Gates or HP. It took me more than one hour to return to secure boot and boot Windos11. And even now it boots to a menu for tests. The machine used to boot to Windows first.
 
The boot menu from BIOS in HP M01-F3xxx. The internal HD is not in the UEFI boot order so EUFI cannot read it unless it is damaged but even so it should show.
 
Rock said:
but even so it should show.
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Not necessarily in the UEFI boot order. Lets say you zeroed the drive completely. There would be no UEFI file for it to boot from. Thus no entry.

I guess with Removable Drives showing up that might sound wrong. There are no EFI boot files on those other UEFI Boot Order Devices for booting....
 
cy@ said:
One of my wife's Acer laptops will only boot the Windows 10 installed on the machine. There is no option to enter the BIOS or boot from an external drive. It's totally locked down. The SSD is soldered to the MB too.

I have two other Acer laptops, both of which multi-boot into FreeBSD and Windows. My HP 840 (business class machine) is a FreeBSD-only machine.

It's always good to test before you buy.
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I bought the PC while trusting HP's brand. To bond a PC's boot OS to only one is a crime or should be. But MS does not surprise me.
 
I thought for sure I was going to see a Windows Boot Manager entry that could not be removed.
What a shame.

Just a dumb thought but you tried the F12 key at boot? There is no way to manually point it at something? On some computers its called 'Boot Override' at BIOS exit/save screen.

What is under the "OS BOOT MANAGER" dropdown you are showing in picture? I can't recall seeing that on my hardwares.
 
Phishfry said:
I thought for sure I was going to see a Windows Boot Manager entry that could not be removed.
What a shame.

Just a dumb thought but you tried the F12 key at boot? There is no way to manually point it at something? On some computers its called 'Boot Override' at BIOS exit/save screen.

What is under the "OS BOOT MANAGER" dropdown you are showing in picture? I can't recall seeing that on my hardwares.
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No, I think the boot manager entry says something like "Windows Boot Manager (Samsung followed by some letters and numbers)". I guess is some internal thing.
 
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I never though this post would get this many helps thanks to all. I will post later what happens after I disable "secure boot" and type the bitlocker number at the UEFI menu.
 
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