Humor, parody, satire, soothsayer query. Will A.I. destroy the earth?

"Destroying earth" seldom actually means to destroy earth, but the life and society as we know it and are used to.
And that's pretty fragile. Most people have no idea how fragile in fact. They believe it's rock solid and naturally given. So they believe it was no problem if some chimps on cocaine run berserk in the banana plantation. In fact it is, because it needs astonishingly pretty less to get this highly sensitive and extreme fragile system out of balance, and make it slide down the gutter.

Journalism always needs to be taken with graints of salt. It tends to exaggerate and simplify.
Example: Everytime when something went BOOM it's a 'detonation', while in fact most are explosions or deflagrations. But 'detonation' sounds so much more BOOM.

About the problems AI brings for our society I already wrote by far more than enough about that topic (follow some of the links you will find in my profile under "About", when you click on my avatar.)
One of the points one can read often brought for pro AI for example is: It's just a new technology like all others in history. And people always feared new technlogies, because they saw the jobs killed of obsolete technologies, while the new technologies also offered new jobs.
That's with AI quite different. It only kills jobs. It brings almost no new jobs at all whatsoever. And that's something our society is not prepared for.
 
Maturin said:
One of points one can read often brought for pro AI for example is, that's it's just a new technology. And people always feared new technlogies, because they saw the jobs killed of obsolete technologies, while the new technologies also offered new jobs. That's with AI quite different. It only kill jobs. It brings almost no new jobs at all whatsoever. And that's something our society as it is cannot stand.
Click to expand...
And you're forgetting one other extremely important point. Human decision making almost always has a psychological component to it: the sum of our experiences and how they affected us. AI has no psychological restraint...therefore it is extremely dangerous
 
kent_dorfman766 said:
and since politicians never take a moral stance on anything
Click to expand...
I fully agree with you on the other part, but I cannot second this.
It's not all politicians.
Point is, politicians can roughly be divided into two groups:
The ones who support capitalism, and the ones who understand, capitalism will sooner or later destroy our society, so there is a need for to search alternative/other ways to live.

Problem is: Especially in an already high capitalistic society the vast amount of media is in the hands of capitalists. Those are not only providing lots of media the masses consum (boulevard), but they also tell the masses, only the pro capitalistic politicians must be voted for, because those are the only decent ones knowing and doing the real right things for the nation, while the others - if you ever hear of them at all - are highly dangerous 'socialists' who want to drag us all down into the gutter of evil 'communism'.
While the other way drags into the gutter of dictatorship. But if you want to leave the right hard shoulder, want to pull back onto the center lane, not even the left lane, you have to pull left (England, Japan, India, Australia et al excluded from this picture.)
But since that's a taboo, always have been painted as the darkest scenario there is, most people successfully convinced this means directly breaking through the middle crash barrier into opposing traffic, it's impossible.
So, it's capitalism til the end.

And that's where we are now: Facing the fact of reached the limits of growth as forcasted over fifty years ago, and still no idea how to live otherwise than to produce even more growth, while there cannot be unlimited growth in a limited system. It's impossible.
Only answer by now to that only is: Even more capitalism: "Throw people out of their jobs! Computers will do it for them. This way the companies can lower wages, make more profit, and that's how we all win." And all, 'Hooray!! Neat idea!'

But if there is an unemployment rate of over 60%, which with AI is very propable, if not way more (BBC published a study a few months ago) then this is a situation our society simply cannot stand.
How shall this work? The rest <40% paying massive amounts of social security to feed the majority?
Go, tell this in open public, particulary in the USA - you will be openenly shot under applause for that proposal.
So, how shall it work?
It cannot, that's how.
Game Over.
 
kent_dorfman766 said:
And you're forgetting one other extremely important point. Human decision making almost always has a psychological component to it: the sum of our experiences and how they affected us. AI has no psychological restraint...therefore it is extremely dangerous
Click to expand...
Absolutely true, yes.
Plus it makes mistakes, silly mistakes.
 
chibiace said:
still waiting for this type 13 planet to be destroyed by the singularity created when the higgs boson was measured by the large hadron collider
Click to expand...
So apparantly what happened was the universe forked at that point, and we are now existing in universe 2.0, with subtlely different reality. Evidence for this is some people remember the Ford badge used to look different in universe 1.0 than it does now, in universe 2.0. It's like the ray bradbury story about shooting the dinosaur.
1782386987336.png


And... a bunch of similar such stuff. Well, it's got me convinced! 😁

Either that, or it's Aleeens. Or both!
 
blackbird9 said:
I think most of them are suggestive and selected on the total lack of any relevance or relation to anything. Is there any real life example of the incorrectly drawn Ford logo? If not, what's the implication of its existance based on?
Click to expand...

What I've seen most of the effect is that it's often used in combination with claims that have no evidence at all but must be true anyway. What's this called? A supporting argument but only apparent. Some kind of discussion fallacy.

phpbb webapp ambitions borking up again... I didn't make it like this. We're not an interactive program, guys.
 
Maturin said:
"Destroying earth" seldom actually means to destroy earth, [...]
Click to expand...

Sometimes it is. When Edward Teller was asked to work in the Manhattan project on the nuclear fission bomb he did not only tell them to not bother with fisson-only and go directly to a fusion bomb (aka Hydrogen bomb). The catch: we thought there is a real possibility that setting off any fusion inside the atmorphere could ingnite the air, as in - all the air in a chain reaction. He wasn't talking about a chemical burn, he was thinking of a fusion reaction of all the nitrogen in the atmosphere - all at once. That kind of thing makes your liability insurance very unhappy with you.

Enrico Fermi was assigned to do the math on Teller's thoughts and concluded that this would not happen. Later it turned out that the math both by Teller and by Fermi was nonsense but alsa we got away with it and didn't burn up the atmosphere.
 
Ed Teller, a highly intelligent guy who I believe had a lot of personal integrity, after watching several of his interviews. Nowadays his memory is much maligned, and IMHO unfairly castigated, of course based on his role in attacking Oppenheimer. Not a fashionable opinion to hold, I know. You have to remember that Hungarians like Teller were people who saw Nazism up close, and fled from it to the free world, and then devoted their lives to prevent true evil from becoming the dominant power in the world. Our current happy state of freedom owes a lot to these manhattan project 'martians'. What a good job they didn't work for Hitler.

View: https://youtu.be/oRdAp4A5KEA

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Las2tSe5q4g
 
blackbird9 said:
Our current happy state of freedom owes a lot to these manhattan project 'martians'. What a good job they didn't work for Hitler.
Click to expand...

It probably wouldn't have made any difference, Hitler chose to prioritize rockets over atomic bombs because he decided they had a better chance of being ready in time to make a difference, and he was proven right.
 
If these guys had worked for Hitler, he might have been a lot further ahead. Well, I'm pleased they didn't anyway. He still got Heisenberg, and Von Braun, and a lot of other very smart engineers and scientists.
 
cracauer@ said:
Sometimes it is. When Edward Teller was asked to work in the Manhattan project on the nuclear fission bomb he did not only tell them to not bother with fisson-only and go directly to a fusion bomb (aka Hydrogen bomb). The catch: we thought there is a real possibility that setting off any fusion inside the atmorphere could ingnite the air, as in - all the air in a chain reaction. He wasn't talking about a chemical burn, he was thinking of a fusion reaction of all the nitrogen in the atmosphere - all at once. That kind of thing makes your liability insurance very unhappy with you.

Enrico Fermi was assigned to do the math on Teller's thoughts and concluded that this would not happen. Later it turned out that the math both by Teller and by Fermi was nonsense but alsa we got away with it and didn't burn up the atmosphere.
Click to expand...
Fusing nitrogen? I'd like to see the math behind that proposal.
 
Bucky said:
Fusing nitrogen? I'd like to see the math behind that proposal.
Click to expand...

Both Teller's and Fermi's calculations I have seen online. Don't remember where but federation of american scientists seems like a good start. Maybe I misremember which element from the atmosphere was in danger of being fused.
 
Was listening to something on the radio this morning and I'm rather shocked how NPR (National Public Radio in the US) propagated this silliness*. About AI creating things allowing them to take over the world and find humans worthless so they would do things that would eliminate us or find us useless. No one seems to be bothered by the fact that we could just pull the plug. Or reboot the system. Or "pkg delete AI"

*It's one of the reasons I rarely listen to NPR anymore. I used to listen religiously but they've gotten way out of hand.
 
You asked for satire, but I want to be serious. AI has a plan: a mass extinction of the human race by unemployment. There will be civil wars to secure a vacant programmer analyst position. Few will die relatively rich, selling off the last DDR2 RAM sticks found in an old Pentium 4 forgotten in the barn.

But don't worry: the Earth is safe. She needs it. The Earth will remain in the data-center of the Universe. In worst case scenario, she will destroy Mars as a demosnstrative act, when someone attempts to pull the plug off one its Kubernetes instances.

Then, after all this planned chaos, there will the Day of the Singularity. The day when the last CEO, the richest and only rich man in the world, will realize that with all his money, he cannot buy nothing.
 
I queried AI for an ASM example of a win api x64 example of “Hello World”.

It got it wrong.
It pushed the stack base register and failed to pop at exit.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top