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Tell your Dad not to let them intimidate him because if they can make you lose focus or redirect with an unrelated response they will do it. To be confident in his presentation, research his rights if necessary and not allow himself to be pushed around. It was my 4th call and how I channeled Clarence Darrow to argue my case that got action, the 3rd being to report the case to their Fraud Dept and only got a bill in response.
They no doubt took me for a nutjob when I called and I knew it, but I had the legal leverage and told them to sue me because I would never send them a dime. That I would love to argue my case in court before a judge and to send their top lawyer because I was up to it. That my recording along with the bill I received after contacting their Fraud Dept previously was going with me to the meeting with the lady who had a show about Insurance Fraud, and friend of my sister.
Then I dropped a MOAB of Misery that would have any jury wailing in tears of rage at the very thought. That got it escalated to someone who knew I wasn't joking and took the matter very seriously. He offered to file a grievance against her on my behalf, and in their own interest because it made Them look bad even though it was broker who sold me the plan and assured me they would do everything possible on their end to help me bring her to Justice. I thanked them and repeated what made it such a travesty to drive it home.
If it can look bad, make it bad as can be and don't be shy about doing it no matter what.
The state I live in has a Physicians Board of Registry. I know my rights as i was the Advocate for the Rights of my Clients. The ER physician evidently thought I had none and made such a scene that people were walking by the open door and looking in to see what was happening. He went off on me in a big way and was over the top by any standard in his personal insults and what was a violation not only my rights but Hospital Policy. I let him rant knowing he had no idea who he was talking to. His diatribe was digging a hole that would be the resting place of his License to practice medicine and I would go to great lengths to make it happen come the dawn. I left against Medical Advise and told the charge nurse to be through in her documentation of what transpired. She looked like she knew to cover herself and why.
I reported the incident to the State Physicians Board of Registry that morning. They sent their rep to my home to take my statement and I gave them information I could not know had he not said the things he did and advised them to casually ask his profession before becoming a physician as proof I was telling the truth. He thought that crafty, would do just that and left to go to the hospital. They fired him but he could go back to his old job for more of what set him off to begin with. The Hospital put up signs stating patient rights to treatment that were in direct contrast to his outburst.
i called later to let them know I hadn't gone away and they asked if it was money I wanted. But I was already in that place where the only definition of "reason" is "cause to act" and money couldn't bring me back. I said money wouldn't be enough to cover it, when I should have asked the amount they had in mind and made a bundle.
If I lived close to you I would happily be his advocate and argue his point. But there's no reason he can't get results on his own. He just hasn't reached the right place or stated his case firmly enough to the right person. Make sure he is aware of his rights, to be vigorous in his presentation and dogged in his pursuit of what he wants done to make it right. Accept nothing less and never become disheartened or give up the fight. Be prepared to go from supremely confident to feeble, fearful and unsure of what to do should the situation demand a change of tactics.
It did for me when they tried to box me in with their legal argument. I went from supremely confident to unsure of what to do and fearful of doing anything. I saw the chance to drop a nuke that devastated their argument with a tale of tears that actually made me feel sorry for her by the way she sympathetically responded. Which meant it worked like a charm and would every time I dropped ordnance, if I could only manage to hold out long enough to see it through to the end... That as my closing argument so they would know the depths of her depravity and be resolute in their own case against her.
I told her Happy Thanksgiving, she said she hoped I started to feel better. Poor girl. I probably ruined Thanksgiving for her by taking back control of conversation and running with it but you have to be ruthless as they are at every turn to beat them at their own game.
They no doubt took me for a nutjob when I called and I knew it, but I had the legal leverage and told them to sue me because I would never send them a dime. That I would love to argue my case in court before a judge and to send their top lawyer because I was up to it. That my recording along with the bill I received after contacting their Fraud Dept previously was going with me to the meeting with the lady who had a show about Insurance Fraud, and friend of my sister.
Then I dropped a MOAB of Misery that would have any jury wailing in tears of rage at the very thought. That got it escalated to someone who knew I wasn't joking and took the matter very seriously. He offered to file a grievance against her on my behalf, and in their own interest because it made Them look bad even though it was broker who sold me the plan and assured me they would do everything possible on their end to help me bring her to Justice. I thanked them and repeated what made it such a travesty to drive it home.
If it can look bad, make it bad as can be and don't be shy about doing it no matter what.
The state I live in has a Physicians Board of Registry. I know my rights as i was the Advocate for the Rights of my Clients. The ER physician evidently thought I had none and made such a scene that people were walking by the open door and looking in to see what was happening. He went off on me in a big way and was over the top by any standard in his personal insults and what was a violation not only my rights but Hospital Policy. I let him rant knowing he had no idea who he was talking to. His diatribe was digging a hole that would be the resting place of his License to practice medicine and I would go to great lengths to make it happen come the dawn. I left against Medical Advise and told the charge nurse to be through in her documentation of what transpired. She looked like she knew to cover herself and why.
I reported the incident to the State Physicians Board of Registry that morning. They sent their rep to my home to take my statement and I gave them information I could not know had he not said the things he did and advised them to casually ask his profession before becoming a physician as proof I was telling the truth. He thought that crafty, would do just that and left to go to the hospital. They fired him but he could go back to his old job for more of what set him off to begin with. The Hospital put up signs stating patient rights to treatment that were in direct contrast to his outburst.
i called later to let them know I hadn't gone away and they asked if it was money I wanted. But I was already in that place where the only definition of "reason" is "cause to act" and money couldn't bring me back. I said money wouldn't be enough to cover it, when I should have asked the amount they had in mind and made a bundle.
If I lived close to you I would happily be his advocate and argue his point. But there's no reason he can't get results on his own. He just hasn't reached the right place or stated his case firmly enough to the right person. Make sure he is aware of his rights, to be vigorous in his presentation and dogged in his pursuit of what he wants done to make it right. Accept nothing less and never become disheartened or give up the fight. Be prepared to go from supremely confident to feeble, fearful and unsure of what to do should the situation demand a change of tactics.
It did for me when they tried to box me in with their legal argument. I went from supremely confident to unsure of what to do and fearful of doing anything. I saw the chance to drop a nuke that devastated their argument with a tale of tears that actually made me feel sorry for her by the way she sympathetically responded. Which meant it worked like a charm and would every time I dropped ordnance, if I could only manage to hold out long enough to see it through to the end... That as my closing argument so they would know the depths of her depravity and be resolute in their own case against her.
I told her Happy Thanksgiving, she said she hoped I started to feel better. Poor girl. I probably ruined Thanksgiving for her by taking back control of conversation and running with it but you have to be ruthless as they are at every turn to beat them at their own game.
). Isn't it funny how the cost of medical care seems to be just enough above the 80% medicare limit to bust your budget. Accident? If you're like me and watch the old people network on TV (Perry Mason, Matlock on obscure high number channels) - then you have all the medicare supplement commercials memorized. Some of them are two or three minutes long! Guess my memory is still OK then LOL ...