Forum font

[cracauer@]

How about a screenshot of the ugly fonts on the forum?

 

[loveydovey]

What do you mean its not bare bones as Arch? They are literally same.

Umm, have you ever installed Arch? It's, like, you don't even get any text editor, no dhcp client, no bootloader... It's almost primordial soup. But you already backtracked on your claim, saying you didn't mean what you meant.

I use it as desktop os and it works flawlessly.

No, OpenBSD doesn't have multithreading, it is not suitable for desktop use.

I would still like to know which pkg these fonts are in.

I mean, google-fonts seems like a pretty default collection these days.

 

[MrBSD]

Umm, have you ever installed Arch?

No. Im just pasting whatever chatgpt told me.

No, OpenBSD doesn't have multithreading, it is not suitable for desktop use.

No. Thats not true. OpenBSD disables hyperthreading. Not multithreading. And i keep that turned off in bios and i have all my E cores disabled as well.

I mean, google-fonts seems like a pretty default collection these days.

Just stop pls.

 

[loveydovey]

I really like what you are saying. Can you pls put some nice fonts here so we can all enjoy it?

Sure thing!

 

[kpedersen]

Not quite. They also install elogind which is essential for some desktop environments that depend on systemd because there is no systemd in Alpine.

Yeah, that is part of those three lines (add display server). Also a trivial script <https://github.com/alpinelinux/alpine-conf/blob/master/setup-wayland-base.in>

Almost one actual line (since devd, cgroups and dbus is already done by this point):

apk add elogind polkit-elogind "$@"

That said, if people don't know or don't want to know (which is completely fair) about the services, packages, systems they are installing, these ad-hoc setup scripts are fine. I do tend to prefer them to having the random opaque scripts added as pre- post- hooks in i.e .rpm or .deb files. I think those are essentially going to be the downfall of Linux

No, OpenBSD doesn't have multithreading, it is not suitable for desktop use.

It has multi-threading (but internally it is a little basic)

By default OpenBSD disables hyperthreading (behind a hw.smt / hw.blockcpu sysctl) because again, the implementation was quite basic and caused more issues than benefits.
Traditional hyper-threading is also kind of legacy. These days manufacturers tend to be going towards a hybrid core design (although, I just read about a potential return).

Desktop use doesn't really need multi-threading. For example Windows 95 managed quite happily without it

 

[MrBSD]

Yeah, that is part of those three lines (add display server). Also a trivial script <https://github.com/alpinelinux/alpine-conf/blob/master/setup-wayland-base.in>

Almost one actual line (since devd is already done by this point):

apk add elogind polkit-elogind "$@"

Yeah, but there are always people that will complain that they need "easy way to install desktop". Look at the Arch linux for example. Its user base has grown significantly since they included installer. Then you have people that used that installer and they complain because its tui based and not calamares based. And then you have so called "Arch linux elitists" that complain about installer being there in a first place. Its same here. People are crying because some fonts have not been included in base installation so they had to look at "ugly fonts" because of their own incompetence. And to top it all off, you have people like me complaining about all of them all together. You just cant please everyone.

 

[kpedersen]

You just cant please everyone.

Indeed. If only there were multiple operating systems available for people to choose from that would suit their abilities. Oh wait....

I do find it quite funny that so many beginners and students immediately gravitate straight to ArchLinux (to stroke their egos?) and then complain when it is not click and play. This kind of behavior is why no-one can have nice things and everything ends up compromised in one way or another.

 

[MrBSD]

Indeed. If only there were multiple operating systems available for people to choose from that would fit their individual experience-level (beginner, intermediate, advanced) rather than all converging on one and fantasizing that it can ever be suitable for everyone.

Linux distros are going into that direction and they are almost there. For example, Installing Linux Mint is easier than installing Windows 11 which is insane.

I do find it quite funny that so many beginners and students gravitate straight to ArchLinux (to stroke their egos?) and then complain when it is not click and play. This kind of behavior is why no-one can have nice things.

Its all about ego stroking. And its not happening in linux world only. Just look at this thread. People are using FreeBSD as a desktop operating system with no proper fonts installed. And then, they have audacity to give suggestions or demands on what should be included in the base install because they missed it. If it wasnt for this thread that they accidently stumbled on, they would still be running FreeBSD with no fonts installed. Like...what are we doing here guys?