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I've been really upset lately, because my dad uses ChatGPT for literally everything, even during casual conversation. He's totally convinced that "The robots are going to take over" and the rest of current tech hype, constantly pressuring me from pursuing any career/hobbies that are "replaceable". It's no longer enjoyable to even be around him, because he puts every question he hears into a prompt; Every adult seems to have similar opinions about "tech"(I hate that word). I would just like to talk to people outside my bubble.
 
I've completely given up on AI to the point that I don't even visit websites that are overflowing with AI products.
Am I a lost cause? :)
Look at the cesspool Pinterest is turning into. AI-generated images will soon dominate there.
It's the same on many websites. Just two years ago, there wasn't such an AI pandemic.
 
Consider AI as just another source
Knowing that this source consults and compiles tons of other sources.
What are these sources, and who programmed the learning mode?
I'm over 70 years old, sometimes to find the right syntax for a csh script, I use ChatGPT, and surprisingly, sometimes the first try isn't good.
The worrying thing for me is the future of our human societies, increasingly assisted for everything.
Even for cooking
An Uber Eats is enough
Decline, fall ?
 
Trust yourself. Do things you're naturally good at, and enjoy doing.
Find confidence inside yourself, then you can let your dad be himself and not be bothered by it, see the funny side of it.
We have no idea what the future will be like, what skills will be needed.

In one sense, "AI" is not AI yet; a chat bot is not really intelligence.
On the other hand, I've been using this (free) : https://chatgpt.com/g/g-G7TYuJJCE-gpt-plus
and I'm surprised how useful it is, when I give it very clear questions.
But it's nothing like having robots that can do everything for us; I think that's still a very long way off.
 
Our clothes dryer started acting up. It and the washing machine are both something way over 15 years old but they did the job. However we thought it was time to move on to new machines and Costco had a great deal on washers/dryers that were top rated by Consumer Reports. So we both them.

Both machines have an "AI Mode". All it really is are sensors in the drum that determine all the factors going in to washing the clothes. Then I'm sure they do a lookup in a table that tells it how much water and wash time is needed to do the job. There is no intelligence involved.

To be fair, I haven't taken the time to really study the manual thoroughly--and they give you almost nothing to study. It works but I don't see how it does any better than me manually setting the controls.
 
shriek said:
I've been really upset lately, because my dad uses ChatGPT for literally everything, even during casual conversation.
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This is an opportunity to practice equanimity which you will need more and more as the world gets more chaotic. 🧘 Don't think he "pressuring" you, think he is "advising" you. Calmly advocate for your position re a career for you and also try to address his views and fears.
 
personally, if i wanted to type words to something that can't learn and doesn't know anything about what i'm doing, only outputs statistically likely responses, and yet is glad to incorrect me anyway, i would post to hackernews
 
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shriek said:
I've been really upset lately, because my dad uses ChatGPT for literally everything, even during casual conversation. He's totally convinced that "The robots are going to take over" and the rest of current tech hype, constantly pressuring me from pursuing any career/hobbies that are "replaceable". It's no longer enjoyable to even be around him, because he puts every question he hears into a prompt; Every adult seems to have similar opinions about "tech"(I hate that word). I would just like to talk to people outside my bubble.
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Build something better and prove him wrong!

I love pointing out how my 10TB NAS set-up with Kodi on boxes works better than any streaming platform today: No device/streaming limits, full un-compressed HD, no censored/edited shows, uncut editions, and no recurring cost. Netflix wants to lock out series because you aren't paying them enough money on their peasant lowly ad-supported tier? Pft! I run my own platform, and if my NAS was running FreeBSD I could tout it as running the same OS as Netflix infrastructure :p
 
I agree, it's depressing watching what we thought was humanity turn out to be cattle.

Once you accept the immutability of that fact, though, you might get over the depression. A piece of software that can entrance people like autogenerated chatbots do must involve some neat designing. Look into tht designing and report back to us with the results of your investigation.

In ancient Tenoxtitlan, they built pyramids so that a snake would seem to crawl up the stairs as the sun set on given dates. It made people go "oooo."
 
I think the MO of ai is to "tell plausible lies." I guess it may be okay for writing proposals or letters or whatever, but for highly technical work, I wouldn't touch it with a 3 meter pole. Which is why you see articles like the one out of Klara systems saying not to let ai tune your zfs settings...It may look plausible, but is just as likely to kill your pool and your data.

Unfortunately, our executives at work are obsessed with ai. To the point that one of them has a habit of saying "you may not lose your job to ai, but you could lose your job to someone who knows how to use ai..." in multiple meetings. I made a point that it sounded like they would rather have someone who programs or sysadmins or whatever at the fiat of the ai, than someone actually willing to learn their job...
 
Using ChatGPT for literally everything?

There have been stories of prompt engineering that got ChatGPT to self-identify as a woman.

There have been stories of divorces where the bone of contention was giving attention to ChatGPT over real-life in-home partner. Same thing can be said about Facebook/Meta and plain surfing the Internet.

ChatGPT is a thirsty, expensive robot that only exists because of some silicon from Intel and AMD. Yes, it's a robot that took over OP's father, unfortunately.

I'd say, how about tearing the guy away from the computer/phone and having an intense workout followed by a really nice meal? If possible, OP should be the one in charge, but prioritize the benefits (workout and meal) over being the one in charge.
 
j77h said:
On the other hand, I've been using this (free) : https://chatgpt.com/g/g-G7TYuJJCE-gpt-plus
and I'm surprised how useful it is, when I give it very clear questions.
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I used that for the first time a few mins ago :p https://chatgpt.com/ can be used without sign-in (not sure what the model/etc is or if it's Plus)

I asked it about quitting caffeine cold-turkey; it gave me some info in a nice format. I'm aware of everything it presented (already did manual research :p), and I can see how people get into asking AI in prompts like that. I doubt I'll use that again any time soon.
 
VulcanRidr said:
I think the MO of ai is to "tell plausible lies." I guess it may be okay for writing proposals or letters or whatever, but for highly technical work, I wouldn't touch it with a 3 meter pole. Which is why you see articles like the one out of Klara systems saying not to let ai tune your zfs settings...It may look plausible, but is just as likely to kill your pool and your data.

Unfortunately, our executives at work are obsessed with ai. To the point that one of them has a habit of saying "you may not lose your job to ai, but you could lose your job to someone who knows how to use ai..." in multiple meetings. I made a point that it sounded like they would rather have someone who programs or sysadmins or whatever at the fiat of the ai, than someone actually willing to learn their job...
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If they are obsessed with it, it is probably because they can smell a future where they pay some Hindu labour farm $1000 a month to manage what used to take a 8-9 figure salary management pool. And they are probably not wrong, much of what modern day management does can be automated.
 
To OP, the world is always changing, and what was a profitable career last generation will not always be for the next. This has been true for thousands of years. Keep your nose up and listen.
 
lost_in_c said:
If they are obsessed with it, it is probably because they can smell a future where they pay some Hindu labour farm $1000 a month to manage what used to take a 8-9 figure salary management pool. And they are probably not wrong, much of what modern day management does can be automated.
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Like telling employees to be punctual, to not overstep bounds of their role, be able to dole out punishments and rewards (like firing and promotions), recognizing when workplace harassment is taking place, recognizing when an employee is just not trainable? Or recognizing a skill that would be quite valuable if used right?
 
Espionage724 said:
Build something better and prove him wrong!

I love pointing out how my 10TB NAS set-up with Kodi on boxes works better than any streaming platform today: No device/streaming limits, full un-compressed HD, no censored/edited shows, uncut editions, and no recurring cost. Netflix wants to lock out series because you aren't paying them enough money on their peasant lowly ad-supported tier? Pft! I run my own platform, and if my NAS was running FreeBSD I could tout it as running the same OS as Netflix infrastructure :p
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What are you running that on?
 
As a subset of the tasks traditionally delegated to management, I believe the answer is yes, all of those things. Not to the satisfaction of subjective ideas, but to the maximally efficient way to achieve whatever the autogenerated program's management goals are.

Have you ever stepped inside an Amazon warehouse?
 
lost_in_c said:
As a subset of the tasks traditionally delegated to management, I believe the answer is yes, all of those things. Not to the satisfaction of subjective ideas, but to the maximally efficient way to achieve whatever the autogenerated program's management goals are.

Have you ever stepped inside an Amazon warehouse?
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On my profile, there's a PDF article attached (from a few years ago), about how boss robots hire and fire people at Amazon.
 
I think it's a mistake to think of them as "boss robots." It is more I believe the case that the "boss" is in many cases becoming obsolote. No boss will be needed. The systems infrastructure will organically accomplish all HR goals, as well as many others.
 
The "boss," the "IT guy," many things which I consider management but you perhaps didn't, will just be integrated into software.

Not because autogenerated software is "smarter than humans," a term that can only be the product of a confusion of terms. Simply because autogenerated software is many orders of magnitude more code efficient than authored code. Many of these things could have been imagined long ago, as software programs that just seemed hard to program. They are now possible.
 
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