Thanks for the info. I went with 8.0-rc1. As far as using csup goes (with the exception of ports, doc, etc.) should my tags be kept at RELENG_8 until 8.0 is officially released? At this point, should I switch to RELENG_8_0? Is this the proper way, along with rebuilding world and kernel, to move from a RC to an actual release using csup?