Other CDE no fonts on 15.0-RELEASE

KaptorX · 2026-02-18T13:42:45+0000

I've started this thread as a new one since I've noticed this while trying to fix my other problem, but it doesn't seem to be related.

When I read the error log for CDE there are error messages about missing fonts (and I cannot change the font size), I've tried some things that I've found but most solutions are related to Linux.

I was curious if my problem was also present on 14.3-RELEASE so I installed that on my test machine and the fonts problem was fixed and remains fixed when I upgrade to 15.0-RELEASE so I guess there are some fonts not longer installed or I need to do something manually that was done automatically on that previous version?

So if someone with more experience could educate me that would be greatly appreciated

tingo · 2026-02-18T18:18:03+0000

post the relevant error messages to enable people to help you.

nxjoseph · 2026-02-18T18:31:55+0000

Today I've installed xfce with lightdm from quarterly repository on 14.3, on lightdm there were no text but all squares, i checked if i have any font by running fc-list and it was all empty, i just installed one of the fonts, then they started to appear. Maybe same case? I was using xorg-minimal i guess.

cy@ · 2026-02-18T18:33:03+0000

On the machine that works:

pkg info -oa | awk '{print $2}' | sort > /tmp/works

On the machine that doesn't work:

pkg info -oa | awk '{print $2}' | sort > /tmp/doesnt-work

Copy /tmp/doesnt-work to /tmp on the machine it does work on.

Then,

diff /tmp/works /tmp/doesnt-work.

Post the diff output here.

You are likely missing some packages or have packages that interfere on the doesnt-work machine.

KaptorX · 2026-02-18T21:28:45+0000

tingo said:
post the relevant error messages to enable people to help you.

Sorry, I completely forgot that.
I copied the error message into a text file before I started to go look for solutions, but now completely forgot I did that.

Here are the error messages

Code:

*** STDERR(1): (/usr/local/dt/bin/dtexec) /usr/local/dt/bin/dtcreate: PID 26180:
 Mon Feb 09 15:46:47 2026
Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface user-medium-r-normal-xxl*-*-*-*-*-
*-*-*-*" to type FontStruct
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface system-medium-r-normal-xxl*-*-*-*-
*-*-*-*-*" to type FontSet
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface user-medium-r-normal-xxl*-*-*-*-*-
*-*-*-*" to type FontSet
[542 bytes]

*** STDERR(1): (/usr/local/dt/bin/dtexec) /usr/local/dt/bin/dtcreate: PID 26180:
 Mon Feb 09 15:46:47 2026
Warning: Cannot convert string "-adobe-times-bold-r-normal--25-180-100-100-p-132
-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
[217 bytes]

KaptorX · 2026-02-18T21:32:54+0000

cy@ said:
On the machine that works:

pkg info -oa | awk '{print $2}' | sort > /tmp/works

On the machine that doesn't work:

pkg info -oa | awk '{print $2}' | sort > /tmp/doesnt-work

Copy /tmp/doesnt-work to /tmp on the machine it does work on.

Then,

diff /tmp/works /tmp/doesnt-work.

Post the diff output here.

You are likely missing some packages or have packages that interfere on the doesnt-work machine.

Thanks,
At the moment my test machine has the working version of 15.0-RELEASE (upgraded from 14.3-RELEASE) so I'll need to do a complete fresh install of 15.0-RELEASE and when it's done I'll post the diff output here.

cy@ · 2026-02-19T04:22:38+0000

Two other things you might want to test. First:

fc-list | sort > working # on the working machine

fc-list | sort > not-working # on the broken machine

Copy one file to the other machine and run diff against them.

Next:

Run xfontsel on both machines. See if the dt foundry is available. Don't worry about the application and dtinfo families. Focus on the "interface system" and "interface user" font families. As you select font attributes you should be able to narrow down various fonts. For this exercise we use xfontsel to find out if we can see the CDE fonts. Normally one would use xfontsel to play around with different font selections in order to define them in various X resources, such as Xterm, CDE and other application resources.

For example I share my .Xdefaults (can also be called .Xresources) file between all my laptops. Each laptop has a different display resolution. In addition I use them hooked up to 24" monitors when working at my desk. The fonts don't normally adjust so I have to use the following in my .Xresources to adjust XTerm fonts based upon the size of the monitor the X server detects. It took a little playing around to find the fonts most pleasing to my eyes on the various laptop displays and external monitors. See below.

Code:

#define KQ_FONT VARIABLE
#if defined(KQ_FONT) && KQ_FONT == VARIABLE
#if WIDTH == 2256 && HEIGHT == 1504
! Framework 13`
xterm*font:     -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-sans-17-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Xterm*font:     -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-sans-17-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
UXterm*font:    -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-sans-17-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
#elif WIDTH == 1920 && HEIGHT == 1080
! HP 840 G5
! xterm*font:   8x16
! XTerm*font:   8x16
! UXTerm*font:  -sony-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-120-100-100-c-80-*-*
! xterm*font:   9x15
! XTerm*font:   9x15
! UXTerm*font:  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-*-*
! xterm*font:   7x14
! XTerm*font:   7x14
! UXTerm*font:  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-120-100-100-c-90-*-*
xterm*font:     -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-sans-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Xterm*font:     -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-sans-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
UXterm*font:    -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-sans-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
# elif WIDTH > 1400
! 24 in. HP moniotor
xterm*font:     7x14
XTerm*font:     7x14
UXTerm*font:    -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-120-100-100-c-90-*-*
# else
! Default, Acer laptops
xterm*font:     fixed
XTerm*font:     fixed
UXTerm*font:    -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-*-*
# endif
#elif  defined(KQ_FONT) && KQ_FONT == FIXED
xterm*font:     fixed
XTerm*font:     fixed
UXTerm*font:    -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-*-*
#endif
xterm*font4: 7x14
XTerm*font4: 7x14
UXTerm*font4: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-120-100-100-c-90-iso10646-1

You get the idea how xfontsel could be used for other than help diagnosing font problems as in this thread.

KaptorX · 2026-02-19T10:12:54+0000

cy@ said:
On the machine that works:

pkg info -oa | awk '{print $2}' | sort > /tmp/works

On the machine that doesn't work:

pkg info -oa | awk '{print $2}' | sort > /tmp/doesnt-work

Copy /tmp/doesnt-work to /tmp on the machine it does work on.

Then,

diff /tmp/works /tmp/doesnt-work.

Post the diff output here.

You are likely missing some packages or have packages that interfere on the doesnt-work machine.

Here is the diff

Code:

3,5d2
< accessibility/linux-rl9-at-spi2-atk
< accessibility/linux-rl9-at-spi2-core
< accessibility/linux-rl9-atk
8d4
< archivers/gnome-autoar
14d9
< archivers/linux-rl9-lz4
25,27d19
< audio/gstreamer1-plugins-a52dec
< audio/gstreamer1-plugins-mpg123
< audio/gstreamer1-plugins-ogg
29d20
< audio/gstreamer1-plugins-vorbis
32d22
< audio/liba52
51d40
< converters/linux-rl9-fribidi
55d43
< databases/linux-rl9-libtracker-sparql
66,67d53
< deskutils/libportal
< deskutils/libportal-gtk4
74d59
< devel/appstream
89d73
< devel/gettext-tools
138d121
< devel/libosinfo
147d129
< devel/libtextstyle
154,163d135
< devel/linux-rl9-dbus-libs
< devel/linux-rl9-elfutils-libelf
< devel/linux-rl9-elfutils-libs
< devel/linux-rl9-icu
< devel/linux-rl9-libpciaccess
< devel/linux-rl9-libthai
< devel/linux-rl9-llvm
< devel/linux-rl9-nspr
< devel/linux-rl9-systemd-libs
< devel/linux-sublime-merge
168d139
< devel/meson
170d140
< devel/ninja
215d184
< devel/tinysparql
230d198
< editors/linux-sublime-text4
236d203
< emulators/linux_base-rl9
239d205
< ftp/linux-rl9-curl
406d371
< graphics/gstreamer1-plugins-png
430d394
< graphics/libiptcdata
444,456d407
< graphics/linux-rl9-cairo
< graphics/linux-rl9-cairo-gobject
< graphics/linux-rl9-dri
< graphics/linux-rl9-gdk-pixbuf2
< graphics/linux-rl9-graphite2
< graphics/linux-rl9-imageformats-libs
< graphics/linux-rl9-libdrm
< graphics/linux-rl9-libepoxy
< graphics/linux-rl9-libglvnd
< graphics/linux-rl9-libjxl
< graphics/linux-rl9-librsvg2
< graphics/linux-rl9-spirv-tools
< graphics/linux-rl9-wayland
484d434
< lang/linux-rl9-python3
511,512d460
< misc/freebsd-doc-en
< misc/freebsd-doc-nl
519d466
< misc/osinfo-db
522d468
< misc/usbids
530d475
< multimedia/gstreamer1-libav
533,535d477
< multimedia/gstreamer1-plugins-core
< multimedia/gstreamer1-plugins-dts
< multimedia/gstreamer1-plugins-dvdread
537,538d478
< multimedia/gstreamer1-plugins-resindvd
< multimedia/gstreamer1-plugins-theora
542d481
< multimedia/libdca
546d484
< multimedia/libtheora
557d494
< multimedia/totem-pl-parser
566d502
< net/libcloudproviders
571d506
< net/linux-rl9-openldap
596,597d530
< print/linux-rl9-freetype
< print/linux-rl9-harfbuzz
615,623d547
< security/linux-rl9-cyrus-sasl2
< security/linux-rl9-gnutls
< security/linux-rl9-libgcrypt
< security/linux-rl9-libgpg-error
< security/linux-rl9-libssh
< security/linux-rl9-libtasn1
< security/linux-rl9-nettle
< security/linux-rl9-nss
< security/linux-rl9-p11-kit
648d571
< sysutils/batterycat
666d588
< sysutils/localsearch
673d594
< sysutils/osinfo-db-tools
679d599
< sysutils/xfce4-battery-plugin
693d612
< textproc/gtk-doc
699d617
< textproc/libcue
703d620
< textproc/libfyaml
717d633
< textproc/libxmlb
720,722d635
< textproc/linux-rl9-expat
< textproc/linux-rl9-libstemmer
< textproc/linux-rl9-libxml2
725d637
< textproc/py-pygments
731d642
< textproc/snowballstemmer
743d653
< www/linux-rl9-libnghttp2
767d676
< x11-fm/nautilus
769d677
< x11-fonts/cantarell-fonts
816d723
< x11-fonts/linux-rl9-fontconfig
819d725
< x11-fonts/source-code-pro-ttf
843d748
< x11-toolkits/gstreamer1-plugins-pango
861d765
< x11-toolkits/libadwaita
865,866d768
< x11-toolkits/linux-rl9-gtk3
< x11-toolkits/linux-rl9-pango
890d791
< x11/gnome-desktop
931,933d831
< x11/linux-rl9-libxkbcommon
< x11/linux-rl9-pixman
< x11/linux-rl9-xorg-libs

I think the only difference in manually (with PKG) installed packages is that I've installed the Linux compatibility on the working system.

Also, I think this is a problem caused by the memstick installer version.

I installed 15.0-RELEASE using the dvd1 installer ISO and then there was no fonts problem, so I flashed the memstick image and tried installing with that one, and that gives the fonts problem.

So problem solved? just making a mental note not to use the memstick installer

KaptorX · 2026-02-19T10:44:37+0000

cy@ said:
Two other things you might want to test. First:

fc-list | sort > working # on the working machine

fc-list | sort > not-working # on the broken machine

Copy one file to the other machine and run diff against them.

Next:

Run xfontsel on both machines. See if the dt foundry is available. Don't worry about the application and dtinfo families. Focus on the "interface system" and "interface user" font families. As you select font attributes you should be able to narrow down various fonts. For this exercise we use xfontsel to find out if we can see the CDE fonts. Normally one would use xfontsel to play around with different font selections in order to define them in various X resources, such as Xterm, CDE and other application resources.

For example I share my .Xdefaults (can also be called .Xresources) file between all my laptops. Each laptop has a different display resolution. In addition I use them hooked up to 24" monitors when working at my desk. The fonts don't normally adjust so I have to use the following in my .Xresources to adjust XTerm fonts based upon the size of the monitor the X server detects. It took a little playing around to find the fonts most pleasing to my eyes on the various laptop displays and external monitors. See below.

Code:

#define KQ_FONT VARIABLE #if defined(KQ_FONT) && KQ_FONT == VARIABLE #if WIDTH == 2256 && HEIGHT == 1504 ! Framework 13` xterm*font: -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-sans-17-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Xterm*font: -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-sans-17-*-*-*-*-*-*-* UXterm*font: -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-sans-17-*-*-*-*-*-*-* #elif WIDTH == 1920 && HEIGHT == 1080 ! HP 840 G5 ! xterm*font: 8x16 ! XTerm*font: 8x16 ! UXTerm*font: -sony-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-120-100-100-c-80-*-* ! xterm*font: 9x15 ! XTerm*font: 9x15 ! UXTerm*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-*-* ! xterm*font: 7x14 ! XTerm*font: 7x14 ! UXTerm*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-120-100-100-c-90-*-* xterm*font: -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-sans-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Xterm*font: -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-sans-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-* UXterm*font: -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-sans-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-* # elif WIDTH > 1400 ! 24 in. HP moniotor xterm*font: 7x14 XTerm*font: 7x14 UXTerm*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-120-100-100-c-90-*-* # else ! Default, Acer laptops xterm*font: fixed XTerm*font: fixed UXTerm*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-*-* # endif #elif defined(KQ_FONT) && KQ_FONT == FIXED xterm*font: fixed XTerm*font: fixed UXTerm*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-*-* #endif xterm*font4: 7x14 XTerm*font4: 7x14 UXTerm*font4: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-120-100-100-c-90-iso10646-1

You get the idea how xfontsel could be used for other than help diagnosing font problems as in this thread.

The diff

Code:

1,36d0
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Black Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Bold Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=ExtraBold Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=ExtraLight Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Light Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Medium Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=SemiBold Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Thin Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Black
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Bold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=ExtraBold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=ExtraLight
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Light
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Medium
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Regular
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=SemiBold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Thin
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProB_09.ttf: PragmataPro:style=Bold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProB_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Liga:style=Bold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProI_09.ttf: PragmataPro:style=Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProI_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Liga:style=Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProR_09.ttf: PragmataPro:style=Regular
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProR_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Liga:style=Regular
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProZ_09.ttf: PragmataPro:style=Bold Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProZ_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Liga:style=Bold Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_B_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono:style=Bold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_B_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono Liga:style=Bold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_I_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono:style=Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_I_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono Liga:style=Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_R_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono:style=Regular
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_R_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono Liga:style=Regular
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_Z_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono:style=Bold Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_Z_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono Liga:style=Bold Italic
896,909d859
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-Black.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Black:style=Black,Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-BlackIt.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Black:style=Black Italic,Italic
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-Bold.ttf: Source Code Pro:style=Bold
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-BoldIt.ttf: Source Code Pro:style=Bold Italic
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-ExtraLight.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro ExtraLight:style=ExtraLight,Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-ExtraLightIt.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro ExtraLight:style=ExtraLight Italic,Italic
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-It.ttf: Source Code Pro:style=Italic
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-Light.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Light:style=Light,Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-LightIt.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Light:style=Light Italic,Italic
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-Medium.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Medium:style=Medium,Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-MediumIt.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Medium:style=Medium Italic,Italic
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-Regular.ttf: Source Code Pro:style=Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-Semibold.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Semibold:style=Semibold,Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-SemiboldIt.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Semibold:style=Semibold Italic,Italic
952,957d901
< /usr/local/share/fonts/cantarell/Cantarell-VF.otf: Cantarell
< /usr/local/share/fonts/cantarell/Cantarell-VF.otf: Cantarell:style=Bold
< /usr/local/share/fonts/cantarell/Cantarell-VF.otf: Cantarell:style=Extra Bold
< /usr/local/share/fonts/cantarell/Cantarell-VF.otf: Cantarell:style=Light
< /usr/local/share/fonts/cantarell/Cantarell-VF.otf: Cantarell:style=Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/cantarell/Cantarell-VF.otf: Cantarell:style=Thin

I didn't install the pragmata and monolisa fonts on the test machine so I guess you can ignore those (I don't remember fonts working with them installed anyway)

comparing the xfontsel results for the foundry fonts shows that the not working system only has dt and misc listed as available fonts while the working system has a lot more:

Code:

adobe
arabic
b&h
bitstream
daewoo
dec
dt
ibm
isas
jis
misc
mutter
schumacher
sony
sun
XFree86

What I also notice is that on the working machine the dt fonts are displayed a chinese? style font, while on the not working system it looks like our normal alphabeth but unsharp (like it as printed by an old dot-matrix printer).

Thanks for the tip on the .Xresources file I'll look into that some more during the weekend when I have some more time.

cy@ · 2026-02-19T15:22:51+0000

KaptorX said:

The diff

Code:

1,36d0
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Black Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Bold Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=ExtraBold Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=ExtraLight Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Light Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Medium Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=SemiBold Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableItalic.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Thin Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Black
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Bold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=ExtraBold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=ExtraLight
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Light
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Medium
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Regular
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=SemiBold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/MonoLisaVariableNormal.ttf: MonoLisa Variable:style=Thin
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProB_09.ttf: PragmataPro:style=Bold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProB_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Liga:style=Bold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProI_09.ttf: PragmataPro:style=Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProI_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Liga:style=Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProR_09.ttf: PragmataPro:style=Regular
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProR_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Liga:style=Regular
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProZ_09.ttf: PragmataPro:style=Bold Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataProZ_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Liga:style=Bold Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_B_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono:style=Bold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_B_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono Liga:style=Bold
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_I_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono:style=Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_I_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono Liga:style=Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_R_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono:style=Regular
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_R_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono Liga:style=Regular
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_Z_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono:style=Bold Italic
< /home/patrick/.fonts/PragmataPro_Mono_Z_liga_09.ttf: PragmataPro Mono Liga:style=Bold 
[/QUOTE]

Why do you have fonts in /home?

[QUOTE="KaptorX, post: 745450, member: 84744"]
Italic
896,909d859
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-Black.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Black:style=Black,Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-BlackIt.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Black:style=Black Italic,Italic
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-Bold.ttf: Source Code Pro:style=Bold
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-BoldIt.ttf: Source Code Pro:style=Bold Italic
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-ExtraLight.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro ExtraLight:style=ExtraLight,Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-ExtraLightIt.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro ExtraLight:style=ExtraLight Italic,Italic
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-It.ttf: Source Code Pro:style=Italic
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-Light.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Light:style=Light,Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-LightIt.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Light:style=Light Italic,Italic
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-Medium.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Medium:style=Medium,Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-MediumIt.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Medium:style=Medium Italic,Italic
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-Regular.ttf: Source Code Pro:style=Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-Semibold.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Semibold:style=Semibold,Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/SourceCodePro/SourceCodePro-SemiboldIt.ttf: Source Code Pro,Source Code Pro Semibold:style=Semibold Italic,Italic
952,957d901
< /usr/local/share/fonts/cantarell/Cantarell-VF.otf: Cantarell
< /usr/local/share/fonts/cantarell/Cantarell-VF.otf: Cantarell:style=Bold
< /usr/local/share/fonts/cantarell/Cantarell-VF.otf: Cantarell:style=Extra Bold
< /usr/local/share/fonts/cantarell/Cantarell-VF.otf: Cantarell:style=Light
< /usr/local/share/fonts/cantarell/Cantarell-VF.otf: Cantarell:style=Regular
< /usr/local/share/fonts/cantarell/Cantarell-VF.otf: Cantarell:style=Thin

Hmmm. A lot of missing fonts.

KaptorX said:
I didn't install the pragmata and monolisa fonts on the test machine so I guess you can ignore those (I don't remember fonts working with them installed anyway)

comparing the xfontsel results for the foundry fonts shows that the not working system only has dt and misc listed as available fonts while the working system has a lot more:

Code:

adobe arabic b&h bitstream daewoo dec dt ibm isas jis misc mutter schumacher sony sun XFree86

There's some missing packages or files belonging to packages have been removed. This is clearly a local problem.

KaptorX said:
What I also notice is that on the working machine the dt fonts are displayed a chinese? style font, while on the not working system it looks like our normal alphabeth but unsharp (like it as printed by an old dot-matrix printer).

What did I say about the application and dtinfo font families? Please reread my comments.

KaptorX said:
Thanks for the tip on the .Xresources file I'll look into that some more during the weekend when I have some more time.