Booting the img stick

fjdlr said:
dbarron

Have you tried to connect your display to the motherboard's HDMI into DisplayPort ?
And In the BIOS, disable the GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7600. ?
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Yes, I've tried disabling the onboard GPU to no effect. I haven't yet physically moved my display port connection to the onboard GPU vs the discrete GPU, though I had thought about it. I suppose I'll give that a try before I leave the house this morning. I prefer to move cabling and such when powered off and I have something running that i'm preferring not to interrupt at the moment.
That'd be a lark if all this time it's been sending all the graphics to the onboard display.

Ok, I tried it...and par for the course, no difference.
 
I think I can squeeze that in before showers and leaving the house. Will edit this comment with my results. Thanks :0
Ok, tried booting that under Ventoy, and no different behavior was observed.
 
dbarron said:
I think I can squeeze that in before showers and leaving the house. Will edit this comment with my results. Thanks :0
Ok, tried booting that under Ventoy, and no different behavior was observed.
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Maybe you already answered: Why use Ventoy rather than the FreeBSD DVD?
 
fjdlr said:
Maybe you already answered: Why use Ventoy rather than the FreeBSD DVD?
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1) It's faster 2) Someone suggested it's better (though with Linuxes, your mileage may vary) I don't use it exclusively and I did try pretty much every image file as dd once also...yes, as I think I may have mentioned before.
I mentioned it to fully document a trial effort. Why did you feel it necessary to ask? (flipping the tables) (perhaps you have a reason that might be useful with regards to my efforts)
 
dbarron said:
1) It's faster 2) Someone suggested it's better (though with Linuxes, your mileage may vary) I don't use it exclusively and I did try pretty much every image file as dd once also...yes, as I think I may have mentioned before.
I mentioned it to fully document a trial effort. Why did you feel it necessary to ask? (flipping the tables) (perhaps you have a reason that might be useful with regards to my efforts)
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Sorry
I hadn't realized that you had already used the DVD.
 
Hmm, well, despite being able to boot Linux and Windows, *BSD is eluding me and so far no one has pointed me a fruitful direction. Anyone?
It's almost as if I had an alien architecture. I'll check and see if there's a non-beta BIOS update (couple days ago there was a beta, but I wasn't feeling beta at the moment) for my MB and retest.
Maybe I should try (just for testings sake) the GNU Hurd kernel or something else non-mainline and see if they boot successfully? Ideas on that front?
 
Ok, after reading the thread again - please try to disable the TPM chip in BIOS. Not only secure boot.
Not only disable AHCI, but ACPI (maybe that gets some progress).
 
Crivens said:
Ok, after reading the thread again - please try to disable the TPM chip in BIOS. Not only secure boot.
Not only disable AHCI, but ACPI (maybe that gets some progress).
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I'll give it a shot (I actually believe I did that...very briefly in testing, but I've tried so many things I can't be sure). Ok, everything in combo coming up :)
Edit: Even made a fresh dd'd 15.1 USB thumb drive, unset/unloaded/verbose booted with all BIOS TPM related stuff disabled, and nothing changes. I haven't mentioned it, but every BSD boot attempt leaves the pc in a non-responsive state where I have to power off. Even if something like Freedos or a linux environment fails to boot correctly, I can ctrl-alt-delete to reboot. Don't think that's helpful info, but jotting it down.
Is there a kernel developer in the house ? (I hope I'm joking)
Making a haiku boot drive now, as it failed to boot from Ventoy (not surprising)
 
Ok, reset BIOS back to 'normal' and wanted to report Haiku boots just fine. I don't really know what I'm doing there..but it works ;)
I also booted a couple of Linux distro images from Ventoy to ensure I wasn't losing my mind and that everything still seemed in working order.
So...basically, it's just BSD that won't play ball. My PC is in working order for everything else.
And, I've previously installed FreeBSD on a different computer-had no issues, but certainly not an expert with regards to the OS.
It's not impossible at all, I'm doing something incredibly stupid (I've certainly seen enough of that on the linux forums)
 
What happens if you install the system on a different computer and switch over the disc? The problem might be the USB booting.
 
Crivens said:
What happens if you install the system on a different computer and switch over the disc? The problem might be the USB booting.
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Well the problem is I don't have another working computer to swap components around.
I do have a very old (2010 era) laptop that I could try to install into an external USB drive, but I'm using the drive as an archive and is there any likely reason that the kernel will boot from that drive when it seemingly won't boot from the various USB thumb drives?
And while perhaps valuable for 'why doesn't it work', I don't particularly want to live on a slow old usb drive for the OS :0
So...thoughts?
Oh, here's something I *can* do easily..take my dd thumb drive and boot on the laptop. That at least will validate the image and the thumb drive being functional...I mean it's not much..but it's something.
Edit: Validated that the image is good and old laptop can boot with it into FreeBSD 15.1

Ok, does that give us anything? Would it be possible to install over NFS from the laptop to the desktop hardware (while the desktop is running Linux to offer the mount?) While I don't think that's normal and practical, I'm willing to go there. I've never tried anything like that...out of my wheel house.
Or maybe do as you (Crivens) suggested, install from laptop to the usb drive and then try to boot off it and then clone it to the nvme on the desktop ?
I'm babbling...
 
dbarron said:
Ok, does that give us anything? Would it be possible to install over NFS from the laptop to the desktop hardware (while the desktop is running Linux to offer the mount?) While I don't think that's normal and practical, I'm willing to go there. I've never tried anything like that...out of my wheel house.
Or maybe do as you (Crivens) suggested, install from laptop to the usb drive and then try to boot off it and then clone it to the nvme on the desktop ?
I'm babbling...
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If you boot from mfsBSD you can mount remote partitions over NFS.

Not sure if that would help you but it's worth knowing as it can sometimes be handy.
 
metalmartijn said:
Are you sure you are using ventoy with the ISO?
Ventoy + memstick.img doesn't work.
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Hmm, well I *have* primarily been using the memstick img not the iso image. I think I've tried Ventoy with the ISO, but let me make sure that I have indeed crossed that bridge. Downloading the iso image now.
Booting with the disk1 image results in the same hard instant lockup.
 
You need a spreadsheet to keep track of all the things you’ve tried!

Which exact freebsd image are you using? I would recommend dd-ing a .iso such as https://download.freebsd.org/releas.../15.1/FreeBSD-15.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso or https://download.freebsd.org/releas...GES/15.1/FreeBSD-15.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso to a usb disk, disable secure boot and try booting.

Another idea is to try nomadbsd from https://nomadbsd.org/download.html and see if it boots. If it does, you can later update to the latest freebsd release.
 
bakul said:
You need a spreadsheet to keep track of all the things you’ve tried!

Which exact freebsd image are you using? I would recommend dd-ing a .iso such as https://download.freebsd.org/releas.../15.1/FreeBSD-15.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso or https://download.freebsd.org/releas...GES/15.1/FreeBSD-15.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso to a usb disk, disable secure boot and try booting.

Another idea is to try nomadbsd from https://nomadbsd.org/download.html and see if it boots. If it does, you can later update to the latest freebsd release.
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You're right on a spreadsheet, I didn't expect this to be as involved as it has been..and so far to naught.
I tried Nomad, I also keep secure boot off, I also documented all that in my thread here :0 though I can certainly see getting confused.
I was actually considering starting a new thread (which sounds awful) with a full what i've tried..unless of course I can edit the original topic, I haven't tried.
As a 'why not', I have sacrificed my archive USB external drive to install BSD from the laptop and will try to boot it on the desktop after.
 
Huh, I installed 15.1 on the laptop to the external USB Seagate, rebooted and it was fine (on the laptop).
I installed with gpt paritioning and UFS fs.
Attached it to the desktop, and it doesn't show up as bootable in the BIOS. It *really* is allergic to BSD. Using a partition manager I can see three partitions, sdd1 unknown type, sdd2 ufs, sdd3 unknown type.
 
dbarron said:
Attached it to the desktop, and it doesn't show up as bootable in the BIOS. It *really* is allergic to BSD. Using a partition manager I can see three partitions, sdd1 unknown type, sdd2 ufs, sdd3 unknown type.
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I've had to manually add EFI loaders to firmware boot with different OSs and BIOS versions (since I downgraded I noticed Linux doesn't add an efi entry and Windows doesn't with CSM; both were consistent on newer BIOS vers)

I'd add FreeBSD's loader entry manually (Dell lets me from F2 BIOS settings). efibootmgr might be able to do it too (not sure about path without booting FreeBSD directly, but should be doable from FreeBSD installer shell or Linux LiveUSB):

Code: 
efibootmgr --create --activate --loader '/boot/efi/efi/freebsd/loader.efi' --label 'FreeBSD' --set-timeout '0'
 
Okay, have you done this:

CSM = Disabled
Secure Boot = Disabled
Fast Boot = Disabled
Above 4G Decoding = Disabled
IOMMU = Disabled
fTPM = Disabled (temporary)
Optimized Defaults bios
make usb
dd if=FreeBSD-15.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso of=/dev/da0 bs=1m conv=sync
NOT VENTOY USING
 
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